Cookson is worse for cycling than McQuaid

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thehog said:
It's a complex legal situation. Not something we'd understand.
Good point. These things take time. Sometimes years. Until then, transparent rain jackets gives me renewed hope for the future of cycling.
 
Sep 29, 2012
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Ugh. So when Cookson said he wanted to work on UCI transparency, he was just talking about the rain coats?
 
Nov 2, 2013
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http://http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cycling-canada-to-back-cookson-for-uci-president

Canadian Cyclings DOB also publicly supported Cookson and its President Tolkamp was named to the UCI ethics commission.

The Cycling Canada that expresses shock and dumbfounded surprise at every recent positive test or doping confession. The organization that promised to investigate Barry in 2010 at the UCI's request (after Landis allegations) and then we heard nothing. The organization that recently took a Jr to CAS (to challenge the decision of reprimand) despite the head of the WADA lab stating the substance found was there in such a minute amount and not able act as a masking/doping agent.
http://http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews.php?id=27117&title=canadian-rider-receives-reprimand-for-anti-doping-violation
They had no problem with very convenient handing of the Hesjedal case so that violations fell outside the SOL.
Tough stance on the jr's and Omerta with the high profile pros. Perfect fit for the UCI ethics commission.

I would need to see someone like Sylvia Schenk or Bassons on that commission to believe that things at the UCI have really changed.
 
It should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway: It's all about money. The more able Cookson and this new UCI can give the world the impression that cycling is cleaning up, the more sponsors there are. This doesn't mean he's covering everything up and as corrupt as Pat or Hein, but the opportunity for him to be is certainly there.
 
Alpe d'Huez said:
It should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway: It's all about money. The more able Cookson and this new UCI can give the world the impression that cycling is cleaning up, the more sponsors there are. This doesn't mean he's covering everything up and as corrupt as Pat or Hein, but the opportunity for him to be is certainly there.
I do think the Froome nonsense is a "cover up" by him though. The casual fan sees this, and thinks he's covering up MORE doping.

Just my opinion.
 
Alpe d'Huez said:
It should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway: It's all about money. The more able Cookson and this new UCI can give the world the impression that cycling is cleaning up, the more sponsors there are. This doesn't mean he's covering everything up and as corrupt as Pat or Hein, but the opportunity for him to be is certainly there.
Agreed about the big money issue and courting of sponsors of course. Then again, on a more microscopic level, didnt makarov back up cookson? Favours for favours?
 
Nov 23, 2013
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"Frustration with the pace of change is one thing, but this is just nonsense for me. If the UCI could rid the sport of its cheats, it would do so in a heartbeat. If nothing else, because it holds them back in capitalising on the further commercialisation of the sport"[/QUOTE]


I disagree. Here lies the fundamental problem. The UCI encourages doping without getting caught. The doping IS EXACTLY how it "capitalizes on the further commercialization of the sport". Dopers provide a better show. Trust me UCI are aware of this.
 
westerner said:
http://http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cycling-canada-to-back-cookson-for-uci-president

Canadian Cyclings DOB also publicly supported Cookson and its President Tolkamp was named to the UCI ethics commission.

The Cycling Canada that expresses shock and dumbfounded surprise at every recent positive test or doping confession. The organization that promised to investigate Barry in 2010 at the UCI's request (after Landis allegations) and then we heard nothing. The organization that recently took a Jr to CAS (to challenge the decision of reprimand) despite the head of the WADA lab stating the substance found was there in such a minute amount and not able act as a masking/doping agent.
http://http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews.php?id=27117&title=canadian-rider-receives-reprimand-for-anti-doping-violation
They had no problem with very convenient handing of the Hesjedal case so that violations fell outside the SOL.
Tough stance on the jr's and Omerta with the high profile pros. Perfect fit for the UCI ethics commission.

I would need to see someone like Sylvia Schenk or Bassons on that commission to believe that things at the UCI have really changed.
This I agree with. Cookson had to secure his votes and in doing so sold his soul.

He's a limp president with not a lot of chutzpah. I think he'll either resign before his term is out or lose at the next election. He's just too weak.
 
Jul 21, 2012
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Dear Wiggo said:
So who was Martin Gibbs before he became the UCI's chief of staff?

Oh look, it's the policy director of British Cycling...

nepo what?
Also on the who gets to test positive board?

UCI Anti-Doping Policy Board

This body is made up of three people: the President of the UCI Anti-Doping Commission (see below), Mr Peder Pedersen, a representative of the UCI external legal counsel, Mr Antonio Rigozzi, and the UCI General Director, Mr Martin Gibbs. The role of the Board is usually to reach a decision when the Legal Anti-Doping Service and the UCI external legal counsel disagree or cannot reach a decision (in particular because a question of principle must first be resolved).

The decisions of the Anti-Doping Policy Board take into account the circumstances of each individual case. The Board pays particular attention to the objectives of the World Anti-Doping Code, while overseeing an effective allocation of resources in order to maximise the impact of the UCI anti-doping programme.
 
Oct 16, 2010
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the stuff on the last three pages is unreal.
makes Cookson jr working for sky look like an irrelevant footnote.
 
meat puppet said:
Agreed about the big money issue and courting of sponsors of course. Then again, on a more microscopic level, didnt makarov back up cookson? Favours for favours?
Oh yes he did.

Ethics commission shocked to discover vote rigging then the President of the Ethics Commission asked to leave by the guy that did the rigging.

Russian federation president Makarov had promised one million euros ($1.36 million)to the Union Europenne de Cyclisme (UEC) in exchange for a Cookson vote.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/15/us-cycling-uci-idUSKBN0FK1GI20140715

The irony of an Ethics Commission at the UCI is rich.

Bottom half of that story is a replay on the TUE story.
 
Energy Starr said:
I disagree. Here lies the fundamental problem. The UCI encourages doping without getting caught. The doping IS EXACTLY how it "capitalizes on the further commercialization of the sport". Dopers provide a better show. Trust me UCI are aware of this.
It's not just the UCI. The IOC operates under the same principal. Why do you think WADA has no power to open cases on any positive in the APMU?

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Antonio Rigozzi

http://globalarbitrationreview.com/reviews/chapters/authors/805/1160/107/30/antonio-rigozzi/

I've posted this before, but here's a perfect example of the "virtuous circle" of sports administration.
Represents athletes.
Represents federations.
Works for sports federations.
On CAS panels.

All at the same time. Are sports federations getting the best parts of that arrangement?
 
Aug 2, 2012
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better

thehog said:
Its party time! Like its 1999!
so brian looks fitter/faster than fat pat? surely he is a better ambassodor for our sport

or do you think he would look better in a team sky strip? or fat and unfit being pushed by da dawg?

Mark L
 
ebandit said:
so brian looks fitter/faster than fat pat? surely he is a better ambassodor for our sport

or do you think he would look better in a team sky strip? or fat and unfit being pushed by da dawg?

Mark L
Brian can borrow the Sky kit from his son.

Cookson out riding with a bunch of rich riders from the UK. He knows where it's at.

At least McQuaid came from a cycling club and not landscape gardening :rolleyes:
 
Aug 13, 2009
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DirtyWorks said:
It's not just the UCI. The IOC operates under the same principal. Why do you think WADA has no power to open cases on any positive in the APMU?

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Antonio Rigozzi

http://globalarbitrationreview.com/reviews/chapters/authors/805/1160/107/30/antonio-rigozzi/

I've posted this before, but here's a perfect example of the "virtuous circle" of sports administration.
Represents athletes.
Represents federations.
Works for sports federations.
On CAS panels.

All at the same time. Are sports federations getting the best parts of that arrangement?
Rigozzi also represented Contador, Vino, and Bruyneel.....oh, and he picked the three members of the CIRC.
 
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Race Radio said:
Rigozzi also represented Contador, Vino, and Bruyneel.....oh, and he picked the three members of the CIRC.
and people believe that cycling has cleaned up its act.......:rolleyes:
 
Oct 16, 2010
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Race Radio said:
Rigozzi also represented Contador, Vino, and Bruyneel.....oh, and he picked the three members of the CIRC.
you gotta be kidding me.

what's your view on this and the other stuff on the last coupla pages?
are you still supporting cookson and if so why?
do you agree that the conflicts of interest are as impressive as they were under mcquaid and that cookson's "independent" anti-doping claims are ridiculous at best?
 
Sep 29, 2012
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Feb 28, 2010
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thehog said:
Brian can borrow the Sky kit from his son.

Cookson out riding with a bunch of rich riders from the UK. He knows where it's at.

At least McQuaid came from a cycling club and not landscape gardening :rolleyes:
So Cookson wasn't in a cycling club when he won the Lakeland Division Road Race championship in 1971? Seems like he's had a long involvement with competitive cycling.
 
Jul 21, 2012
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Dear Wiggo said:
I'm sorry you don't believe in non-conflict of interest miracles.

He's also suggesting Riis and Vinokourov visit the CIRC. No other names are mentioned, curiously. As if there are only 2 ex-dopers in the management side of pro cycling at this time.

No Matt White.
No Vaughters.
No Neil Stephens.
etc
etc
I wonder what would happened if Leinders of JTL showed up. Hopefully Cookie will welcome them with open arms and hear their stories.
 
Feb 28, 2010
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Dear Wiggo said:
I'm sorry you don't believe in non-conflict of interest miracles.

He's also suggesting Riis and Vinokourov visit the CIRC. No other names are mentioned, curiously. As if there are only 2 ex-dopers in the management side of pro cycling at this time.

No Matt White.
No Vaughters.
No Neil Stephens.
etc
etc
He gave these two as examples, he also said “The commission doesn’t have powers of subpoena, but there is a court of public opinion here which is really important; those two people and others as well need to bear that in mind if they want to continue to operate in our world, opinion in the world of cycling would be much more favourable towards them if they came forward.”
 

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