Cookson is worse for cycling than McQuaid

[laurel1969]

Close the Clinic, Cookson has made Cycling cleanER

http://road.cc/content/news/130771-cycling-leads-world-sports-anti-doping-says-cookson

I am so happy, Quintana, Nibali and Contador turned their back on doping to win. All is well with cycling

And for those of us who actually bothered to read the report, Cookson neither said nor implied any of the above.

 

[sniper]

from the report:

"Media, sponsors, fans and the public don't want to be involved in a sport where doping is a big problem. We saw a clear example of this in 2008 when the German media pulled out of covering cycling at professional level. At one time there were three top pro teams in Germany - at the moment there are none.

now imagine any German cyclist testing positive in the next coming years...
not.

 

[the sceptic]

well Cookson is 100% right about that, which is why its so important to pretend everything is clean.

 

[SeriousSam]

The headline is accurate as well (Cycling leads world sports in anti-doping, says Cookson). No other sport tests as much and thoroughly as cycling, no other sports talks about doping as much. Ironically, this is one of the leading reasons why Joe Casual Sports Fan Doe regards cycling, but not, say, the NFL, as having a PED problem.

 

[laurel1969]

Cycling acknowledges that it has a problem. That differentiates it from most other sports. There is nothing in Cookson's words that suggest he is claiming cycling is now clean. In fact, he is talking more about work to bring the testing and reporting regime in line with WADA, and trying to move testing out of the hands of the UCI.

Regardless of whether he has been successful in that regard, or indeed has any intention of being successful, he is highlighting that there is an issue.

That in itself, puts cycling in a different category to most other sports.

 

[sniper]

Cycling acknowledges that it has a problem. That differentiates it from most other sports. There is nothing in Cookson's words that suggest he is claiming cycling is now clean. In fact, he is talking more about work to bring the testing and reporting regime in line with WADA, and trying to move testing out of the hands of the UCI.

Regardless of whether he has been successful in that regard, or indeed has any intention of being successful, he is highlighting that there is an issue.

That in itself, puts cycling in a different category to most other sports.

have you heard the entire interview or are you speculating?

 

[laurel1969]

have you heard the entire interview or are you speculating?

I'm talking about the quotes in Benotti's link.

But, it doesn't take a genius to work out that Cookson could only declare cycling clean if e was sure that there would be no more positives. There have been positive tests.

 

[the sceptic]

The reason why Cookson has to talk about doping and pretend he is trying to do something about it is because the fans already know that cycling has a problem.

In other sports, the fans assume everything is 100% clean, so there is no need to draw attention to it.

Hence why we dont see teams in other sports launch huge propaganda campaigns to explain they are clean. That would be absurd.

 

[sniper]

The reason why Cookson has to talk about doping and pretend he is trying to do something about it is because the fans already know that cycling has a problem.

In other sports, the fans assume everything is 100% clean, so there is no need to draw attention to it.

Hence why we dont see teams in other sports launch huge propaganda campaigns to explain they are clean. That would be absurd.

true story.

 

[laurel1969]

It was the basis for the election, and his mandate. Of course he has to talk about it. He has to do something, as well.

 

[sniper]

It was the basis for the election, and his mandate. Of course he has to talk about it. He has to do something, as well.

a problem is that the press should not just uncritically copy-paste his words.
just look at that article in the link.
it's sickening.
cookson is getting a free pass.
no questions asked.

 

[Benotti69]

It was the basis for the election, and his mandate. Of course he has to talk about it. He has to do something, as well.

Make sure and tell us when he actually does something about anti doping

 

[keeponrollin]

Make sure and tell us when he actually does something about anti doping

Exactly !

As the old saying goes, "Kind words, butter no parsnips !"

Talk is cheap, show me some actions, & I'll start to believe the UCI has changed. Oh, & forming committees, isn't action !

 

[Benotti69]

Cycling acknowledges that it has a problem........

Cycling has no choice but to acknowledge it has a problem and especially after Armstrong it is going to take monumental real anti doping changes to ever change the idea the all cyclists dope in the eyes of the public. Not spouting a few platitudes.

So Cookson better get cracking or is there another weird coloured jersey and shorts that needs his immediate attention somewhere......

 

[keeponrollin]

Cycling has no choice but to acknowledge it has a problem and especially after Armstrong it is going to take monumental real anti doping changes to ever change the idea the all cyclists dope in the eyes of the public. Not spouting a few platitudes.

So Cookson better get cracking or is there another weird coloured jersey and shorts that needs his immediate attention somewhere......

Ahhhh, I've got it, Cookson is a genius

The on-bike cameras are to catch riders injecting themselves mid-race, & the transparent rain gear is so they can't hide the dope

 

[barn yard]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/has-cookson-kept-his-promises

CN on the bandwagon

 

[Benotti69]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/has-cookson-kept-his-promises

CN on the bandwagon

CN wont rock the boat, bad for business.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

CN wont rock the boat, bad for business.

Did you read it?

I didn't read the whole thing, but there's a lot of "results unclear" or "no idea if they have done this" in there, as well as a scoff at the backwards step in terms of transparency.

Looks very "nope, not quite" to me - unless you can point out something that seems contra to that I think you've got the bull by the wrong end there.

 

[thrawn]

Did you read it?

I didn't read the whole thing, but there's a lot of "results unclear" or "no idea if they have done this" in there, as well as a scoff at the backwards step in terms of transparency.

Looks very "nope, not quite" to me - unless you can point out something that seems contra to that I think you've got the bull by the wrong end there.

Yeah I agree with this. I read the whole article and that's what it was mostly like.

On some things it agreed was done it went something like this:

"Commitment: Establish a women's commission supported by a full time staff position dedicated to the development of women's cycling across all disciplines.

Delivery: A new Women's Commission has been created."

It didn't provide a comment on whether it was done well or not, just if it had or hadn't been done.

I did find it amusing that Cookson apparently has no conflict of interests though.

 

[barn yard]

Did you read it?

I didn't read the whole thing, but there's a lot of "results unclear" or "no idea if they have done this" in there, as well as a scoff at the backwards step in terms of transparency.

Looks very "nope, not quite" to me - unless you can point out something that seems contra to that I think you've got the bull by the wrong end there.

i actually thought it was a bit of a smart **** article by CN, a very thinly veiled dig at the UCI... good to see CN at publishing an article questioning how effective the great saviour of cycling has actually been (not very effective at all it appears).

 

[DirtyWorks]

i actually thought it was a bit of a smart **** article by CN, a very thinly veiled dig at the UCI... good to see CN at publishing an article questioning how effective the great saviour of cycling has actually been (not very effective at all it appears).

Agreed!

I will give Cookson some credit here as he is not king. He has to convince other members of the UCI to go along with these ideas. At the end of his first term, let's see how it looks.

There's no doubt it's long overdue. Women's racing is good watching.

 

[Benotti69]

Hmm this makes no sense

Cillian Kelly @irishpeloton · 6h
No racing on today at the Worlds. Ideal time for the UCI Congress. Instead, UCI are holding the congress tomorrow… during the racing.

So UCI hold their congress not on a rest day but during racing when journalists should be covering the racing......wonder why?

 

[fmk_RoI]

So UCI hold their congress not on a rest day but during racing when journalists should be covering the racing......wonder why?

Here's today's challenge for you: go to the UCI website and find any information at all about the AGM, even a note saying when it is being held. Go to the UCI website and find any information about past AGMs (minutes used to be available in the Publications section).

 

[Benotti69]

Here's today's challenge for you: go to the UCI website and find any information at all about the AGM, even a note saying when it is being held. Go to the UCI website and find any information about past AGMs (minutes used to be available in the Publications section).

Good man F.

I dont do requests.

 

[Beech Mtn]

UCI has created an independent tribunal to decide on anti-doping cases rather than having the national federations rule on cases. Tribunal should be set to start in 2015. UCI claims this will ensure consistency among rulings, keep cases from dragging out, and reduce the number of appeals to CAS. Hmm. . . .

Source (article is in Spanish)