Cookson is worse for cycling than McQuaid

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Poor Pat is very concerned about Cookson's troubles. If you click on the link below, scroll down to the '8.40am Sports News' and go to 7.05 where there is a quote from McQuaid about Cookson's troubles. It really is touching that McQuaid is so concerned for Cookson, and to think I thought McQuaid was bitter:D

http://www.rte.ie/radio1/morning-ireland/
 

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Capability Brown, the famous 18th century landscape gardener, sure moved a lot of earth about and the results can be seen to this day.

As they say of him, "Over two centuries have passed since his death, but such are the enduring qualities of his work that over 150 of the 260 or so landscapes with which he is associated remain worth seeing today.

So that's a promising thought of yours. Everyone may all be surprised one day by the Cookson legacy.

That's good. My mistake though. He wasn't a landscape gardner. Urban planning apparently and winner of Lakeland Division Road Race championship in 1971.
 
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That's good. My mistake though. He wasn't a landscape gardner. Urban planning apparently and winner of Lakeland Division Road Race championship in 1971.

From his self written, 8 paragraph wiki page:

Graduating in 1973, Cookson retired in March 2013 from his mainstream career, where he was employed by Pendle Borough Council as Executive Director (Regeneration) having gained wide experience in strategic management of multi-facetted organisations, and of managing teams of staff engaged in major programmes of urban regeneration and renewal.

Nickname: Fluffy...

Why he isn't ruler of the universe, with that resume, I'll never understand.
 

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From his self written, 8 paragraph wiki page:

Graduating in 1973, Cookson retired in March 2013 from his mainstream career, where he was employed by Pendle Borough Council as Executive Director (Regeneration) having gained wide experience in strategic management of multi-facetted organisations, and of managing teams of staff engaged in major programmes of urban regeneration and renewal.

Nickname: Fluffy...

Why he isn't ruler of the universe, with that resume, I'll never understand.

Yes, councils through the Major and Blair years were the epitome of efficacy and legitimacy :)

We're in good hands...
 
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wrinklyvet said:
Capability Brown, the famous 18th century landscape gardener, sure moved a lot of earth about and the results can be seen to this day.

As they say of him, "Over two centuries have passed since his death, but such are the enduring qualities of his work that over 150 of the 260 or so landscapes with which he is associated remain worth seeing today.

So that's a promising thought of yours. Everyone may all be surprised one day by the Cookson legacy.

He could of course do that. Or he could end up more like BS Johnson, the discworld parody.
 
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It's not right to ignore the limits of Cookson's rights to influence the decision, or the extra obligations that have been placed on Astana. Most aspects of such matters were taken out of the hands of the president for a reason.

All of us want any action taken to be legal. Why not read and think about what Cookson has said about this? All progress and change has to be achieved by proper means.

I make no comment on American politics. It's not relevant either. But I don't believe Cookson lacks balls.

I always had the impression that the President is in charge and like Obama it seems he has his hands tied or IMO lacking the balls to really shake things up even if a lot of sh%% will fall. It's easy to see what is going on. We have now quite a lot of evidence that riders are still doping. We have riders riders who are so called clean beating these doped riders. We have riders from the tour winners team busted. Doping is going on all over the sporting world and Cookson is just meandering to what he thinks the media should hear. He knows whats really going on just like the previous incarnation of the UCI.
It just carry's on the same. Time we adjust to the fact that athletes dope re think the rules and the way high level pro sport is run.
 

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thehog said:
Random quote generator because you were wrong? :rolleyes:

I'm fairly sure most things are better than Festina, yes. How many guys finished the Tour? How many arrested?

In saying doping is a lot more sophisticated now than the thermos of EPO taken to a race on the front seat of the team car.
that's also what a certain Ashenden warned the public for, not too long ago.
Despite the self-serving data bending and associated propaganda to the contrary, I am led to believe that there are pockets of organised, highly sophisticated dopers even within ‘new age’ cycling teams. Personally, I don’t accept that the ‘dark era’ has ended, it has just morphed into a new guise.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/opinion-michael-ashenden-on-omerta-101
 
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Random quote generator because you were wrong? :rolleyes:

I'm fairly sure most things are better than Festina, yes. How many guys finished the Tour? How many arrested?

In saying doping is a lot more sophisticated now than the thermos of EPO taken to a race on the front seat of the team car.

Every so often I wander back in here, then I read your posts and wonder why.
 

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Every so often I wander back in here, then I read your posts and wonder why.

You probably better off wondering about Kastusha and the warning you thought they never had :rolleyes:
 
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This is not just a matter for the UCI,” he told Sky Sports. “We have all got our responsibilities here: the teams, Astana, the national federation of Kazakhstan, the sponsors, the funders, the suppliers of the team. The reputational damage that is being done to them is surely substantial, so we have all got to step up to the plate here.

“We are doing our bit, but we need other people to take their responsibility as well, so I am calling on the management of Astana to take their responsibilities very seriously."
Cookson really thinks the federation or the sponsors care about cleans cycling? jesus..

“This might feel like a step backwards, but once you start making things up as you go along and once you start applying rules flexibly, I think that is a recipe for disaster.”

Like Dawgs TUE? :rolleyes:
 
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Since this seems to be the current thread for UCI news, here's some new to me information about how the UCI will sort the calendar and teams, very, very soon.

http://www.velowire.com/article/877/en/the-reform-of-professional-cycling--the-latest-news.html

My guess is for now, WT teams can race all the way down into "3rd division." But, as races are demoted by the UCI demanding more money/control/whatever eventually they get restricted to racing at the second division.

Say goodbye to a bunch of traditional races.
 
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Cookson really thinks the federation or the sponsors care about cleans cycling? jesus..

He's got to maintain appearances. Remember, he was instrumental in making anti-doping "independent" at the UCI. Even though literally nothing has changed.

He's a busy guy. Got to make bike racing pay UCI officials. In this sense he has very big shoes to fill.
 
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He's got to maintain appearances. Remember, he was instrumental in making anti-doping "independent" at the UCI. Even though literally nothing has changed.

He's a busy guy. Got to make bike racing pay UCI officials. In this sense he has very big shoes to fill.


Indeed. I hear he now has to get up from his desk & walk all of 20 meters to talk to the Independent UCI doping division now !
 
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Cookson just follows the rules.. except when he doesn't

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the sceptic said:
Cookson just follows the rules.. except when he doesn't

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Cookson, he needs more time, just following the rules, it's not as bad as it used to be.

Bot logic.
 
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Dear Wiggo said:
Ouch. Was any sort of reasoned decision published as to why Zevenbergen was removed?



"I think those who were in the congress meeting last year would have been disappointed with the performance of the Ethics Committee as it was represented, Cookson told reporters on Tuesday.

"I think that it was quite clear that we had to change. We have got a new ethics commission now, all the members of the commission have been renewed. People we have are of the highest quality."

But the real reason why he was removed was of course because he went after Makarov.
 
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thehog said:
Good article that one. Cookson has become very smarmy. He certainly has set up a nice little fiefdom.
yes. No need to beat around the bush.
This is pretty self-explanatory:
Zevenbergen said that he received a visit from Martin Gibbs, the UCI director general, in late December, 2013, as the Ethics Commission was investigating claims that Russian federation president Makarov had promised one million euros ($1.36 million)to the Union Europenne de Cyclisme (UEC) in exchange for a Cookson vote.

"Martin Gibbs came to Amsterdam to discuss this with me on the 27th of December. I would not say he asked me to resign, there was some pressure, he said he did not want to continue with me.


"He said if I stayed, it (the Ethics Commission president job) would be an empty function.

"As a consequence Peter Barth from Germany resigned from the commission."

Sources told Reuters that Barth, who left his job in April, felt the independence of the Ethics Commission could not be guaranteed anymore.
Not pretty.

Menchov cover up.
Illegal Froome TUE.
Oliver.
Buying votes.
Zorzoli in, Zevenbergen out.
No independent antidoping body as promised.

The list is already long.
Not pretty.