Cookson out, Lappartient in

[King Boonen]

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It's the third page and we've already gone off-topic. Lets get it back to Lappartient and Cookson please.

I don't really think this is off topic. We discuss about what Lappartient wants to change and if that would be good decisions.

You are discussing how power meters affect racing tactics, that is off topic and can be discussed in the relevant thread. The fact that Lappartient could ban them (although I haven't seen any suggestion he is planning to do this?) can be discussed.

 

[GraftPunk]

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It's the third page and we've already gone off-topic. Lets get it back to Lappartient and Cookson please.

Lappartient will hopefully do well, but with the bar currently so low one would think improvement would be easy. And Cookson's conflict-of-interest comment was a total face-palm. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

From CN's article:

Cookson avoided openly criticizing Lappartient but highlighted what his biggest problem will be as the new UCI President: dealing with the often difficult relationship with Tour de France organizer ASO.

There is concern that the French connection between Lappartient and ASO could lead to a conflict of interest for the new UCI president. Lappartient promised impartiality but Tour de France director Christian Prudhomme was one of the first to congratulate Lappartient on his victory, hugging his compatriot tightly.

"That's a challenge for David," Cookson said.

 

[Craigee]

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Echoes makes a great point. Among the first things the new president could do is reduce the number of artificial top-down WT races to allow teams to race more traditional, local races which are loved and have a community behind them, instead of soulless Arab and Chinese excursions.

Although soulless, Qatar and Oman have produced some of the most entertaining racing the last few years. China not so, I'll give you that.

Seen the crowds? There aren't any. It's silly.

 

[Benotti69]

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It's the third page and we've already gone off-topic. Lets get it back to Lappartient and Cookson please.

Lappartient will hopefully do well, but with the bar currently so low one would think improvement would be easy. And Cookson's conflict-of-interest comment was a total face-palm. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

From CN's article:

Cookson avoided openly criticizing Lappartient but highlighted what his biggest problem will be as the new UCI President: dealing with the often difficult relationship with Tour de France organizer ASO.

There is concern that the French connection between Lappartient and ASO could lead to a conflict of interest for the new UCI president. Lappartient promised impartiality but Tour de France director Christian Prudhomme was one of the first to congratulate Lappartient on his victory, hugging his compatriot tightly.

"That's a challenge for David," Cookson said.

Most thought McQuaid lowered the bar to the bottom, Cookson took it further. It appears to be a bottomless pit.

I would not get any hopes up about a guy who has already had negative impacts on the sport. Ask the French lady cyclists!

 

[Red Rick]

I sure wish Lappartient the best. I don't want to see a "Lappartient is worse than Cookson, who was worse than McQuaid" thread. In the end , we'll judge him by his actions, not the blahblahblah. Sky will be just fine. Hopefully, small teams and small races will be the focus. Without them, there's no cycling culture. No base. The broader the base, the stronger the sport, the more money pours in. I.e. football/soccer .

Don't go to the clinic buddy

 

[Dazed and Confused]

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Echoes makes a great point. Among the first things the new president could do is reduce the number of artificial top-down WT races to allow teams to race more traditional, local races which are loved and have a community behind them, instead of soulless Arab and Chinese excursions.

Although soulless, Qatar and Oman have produced some of the most entertaining racing the last few years. China not so, I'll give you that.

Seen the crowds? There aren't any. It's silly.

Agree, shut the shite down asap.

 

[TMP402]

So on the front page he has already announced the 2019 WCs will be the last with a trade team TTT... but hasn't said whether national teams will be able to enter instead thereafter, which is how it should have been done all along. We've missed out on some great battles.

Dennis-Durbridge-Bobridge-Hepburn-Howson-Matthews vs Wiggins-Froome-Cummings-Dowsett-Kennaugh-Thomas vs Martin-Arndt-Politt-Sütterlin-Kämna-Burghardt, etc.

Sorry for mixing up my eras there, I just feel strongly about this!

 

[oldcrank]

We're moving forward in a positive direction
with the guy McQuaid, Bruyneel and Lance
all supported! :surprised:

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

does it really matter that much? potato, potatoe

 

[rick james]

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So goodbye Sky?

Really that's your first thought?

 

[Valv.Piti]

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does it really matter that much? potato, potatoe

Rather chips, pommes frites. Can't say Im disappointed at all with it, Cookson wasn't too great really.

 

[Pennino]

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So on the front page he has already announced the 2019 WCs will be the last with a trade team TTT... but hasn't said whether national teams will be able to enter instead thereafter, which is how it should have been done all along. We've missed out on some great battles.

Dennis-Durbridge-Bobridge-Hepburn-Howson-Matthews vs Wiggins-Froome-Cummings-Dowsett-Kennaugh-Thomas vs Martin-Arndt-Politt-Sütterlin-Kämna-Burghardt, etc.

Sorry for mixing up my eras there, I just feel strongly about this!

Nice silver medal battle indeed. You know they would be beaten hard by Dumoulin-Kelderman-Oomen-Terpstra-Van Emden-Clement.

 

[samhocking]

How do people feel about World Road Champs every 4 years from 2023? Will seem rather strange seeing the rainbow bands on the same rider for 4 years?

 

[luckyboy]

Why just stop at the Worlds TTT?

 

[Valv.Piti]

I have a feeling they would want to reinstate the national teams, at least thats what I hope for. As long as it will be held on such grueling courses as that one in Innsbruck I have absolutely no problems with the trade teams and anyways, if people don't like it theres always the opportunity of not watching. But I guess too many teams were just indifferent with the competition, I reckon only 6-7 teams actually cared for that race.

 

[Alexandre B.]

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How do people feel about World Road Champs every 4 years from 2023? Will seem rather strange seeing the rainbow bands on the same rider for 4 years?

World Road Champs held every 4 years with all the other cycling categories. A sort of giant cycling festival.

 

[TMP402]

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How do people feel about World Road Champs every 4 years from 2023? Will seem rather strange seeing the rainbow bands on the same rider for 4 years?

Is that a genuine proposal? I would go *** mad if so.

 

[Red Rick]

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How do people feel about World Road Champs every 4 years from 2023? Will seem rather strange seeing the rainbow bands on the same rider for 4 years?

Is that a genuine proposal? I would go **** mad if so.

Exactly, we have the Olympics for that

 

[Parker]

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How do people feel about World Road Champs every 4 years from 2023? Will seem rather strange seeing the rainbow bands on the same rider for 4 years?

World Road Champs held every 4 years with all the other cycling categories. A sort of giant cycling festival.

In principle a reasonable idea in. In practice, I have questions. Particularly when will it be held? For example the track season takes place over the winter and ends in with Worlds in March. Will they shift their season every four years? And having it the year prior to an Olympics adds to the problems.

 

[hazaran]

That's not the proposal. The proposal is that we have WC as usual every year, then when it's the year preceding the olympics, all the niche sports get to emerge from their dark corner and play with the cool road cyclists on the same stage.

Of course that's entirely delusional because the only place where you get a track, BMX, MTB .. facilities in the same place is the olympics where they are purposely built.

 

[deValtos]

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That's not the proposal. The proposal is that we have WC as usual every year, then when it's the year preceding the olympics, all the niche sports get to emerge from their dark corner and play with the cool road cyclists on the same stage.

Of course that's entirely delusional because the only place where you get a track, BMX, MTB .. facilities in the same place is the olympics where they are purposely built.

The whole idea seems unnecessary, I guess they want to use it as cross promotion for all cycle sports but to your point it would definitely limit the location considerably.

 

[samhocking]

The title reads as

"REGROUP OUR 4 CYCLING OLYMPIC DISCIPLINES FOR A SINGLE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
EVERY 4 YEARS"

Maybe it's a translation issue, but I read 'single world championship' as there being one World Championships for Road, Track, MTB & BMX every 4 years? He means a Combined World Championship every 4 years then and separate the other 3?
Surely that limits World Championships to only host towns/cities who have a Velodrome suitable in the 4th year?

 

[samhocking]

Overall I like his vision. I see a huge amount of $$ needed to even deliver half of it. This is what I'm struggling to see past. His vision is clearly globalisation and commercialisation of cycling into 21st Century and largely to turn UCI into an events organiser alongside managing the sport. This sits a little uneasy to me with relation to the other half of his proposals being one of credibility by cleaning up doping fringes and technical fraud. It's a lofty proposal. If he deliveres even 1/4 of it in 4 years i'll be the first to congratulate him.

 

[Parker]

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That's not the proposal. The proposal is that we have WC as usual every year, then when it's the year preceding the olympics, all the niche sports get to emerge from their dark corner and play with the cool road cyclists on the same stage.

But then the track worlds doesn't fit in with their season which is over the winter. And a lot of trackies subsidise their track racing by riding road in the summer.

 

[Tonton]

I sure wish Lappartient the best. I don't want to see a "Lappartient is worse than Cookson, who was worse than McQuaid" thread. In the end , we'll judge him by his actions, not the blahblahblah. Sky will be just fine. Hopefully, small teams and small races will be the focus. Without them, there's no cycling culture. No base. The broader the base, the stronger the sport, the more money pours in. I.e. football/soccer .

Don't go to the clinic buddy

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