Cookson out, Lappartient in

[samhocking]

I can see MTB & BMX being combined with Road every 4 years in hosting countries with the right topography and facilities etc, but track in Summer I'm struggling with, even if the host town has a velodrome. Perhaps the plan is to shift the track world cup events to the summer and make track a more definitive discipline where road riders don't go to keep fit in winter lol!

 

[Red Rick]

I sure wish Lappartient the best. I don't want to see a "Lappartient is worse than Cookson, who was worse than McQuaid" thread. In the end , we'll judge him by his actions, not the blahblahblah. Sky will be just fine. Hopefully, small teams and small races will be the focus. Without them, there's no cycling culture. No base. The broader the base, the stronger the sport, the more money pours in. I.e. football/soccer .

Don't go to the clinic buddy

...

The thread is already made.

 

[Tonton]

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Overall I like his vision. I see a huge amount of $$ needed to even deliver half of it. This is what I'm struggling to see past. His vision is clearly globalisation and commercialisation of cycling into 21st Century and largely to turn UCI into an events organiser alongside managing the sport. This sits a little uneasy to me with relation to the other half of his proposals being one of credibility by cleaning up doping fringes and technical fraud. It's a lofty proposal. If he deliveres even 1/4 of it in 4 years i'll be the first to congratulate him.

This.

Candidates talk. Presidents have to deliver.

 

[Parker]

Re:

Overall I like his vision. I see a huge amount of $$ needed to even deliver half of it. This is what I'm struggling to see past. His vision is clearly globalisation and commercialisation of cycling into 21st Century and largely to turn UCI into an events organiser alongside managing the sport. This sits a little uneasy to me with relation to the other half of his proposals being one of credibility by cleaning up doping fringes and technical fraud. It's a lofty proposal. If he deliveres even 1/4 of it in 4 years i'll be the first to congratulate him.

And even then it would take a long time to put all of it into action. And there's a real possibility that DL is only in this for the short term. His real ambitions lie in the French Senate - he was looking to run for a seat this year before it became clear that support for the French establishment had collapsed.

 

[oldcrank]

I can see MTB & BMX being combined with Road every 4 years in hosting countries with the right topography and facilities etc, but track in Summer I'm struggling with, even if the host town has a velodrome. Perhaps the plan is to shift the track world cup events to the summer and make track a more definitive discipline where road riders don't go to keep fit in winter lol!

In guessing the Lapp-dawg is thinking about the 2024 Paris Olympics
and having the combined disciplines World Championships in Paris in
2023. It's an OK idea to have all the Olympic cycling test events held
at the same time a year out from the Oly's but not as Championships.
Perhaps some could be World Cups or something similar, but not the
World Championships.

 

[Tonton]

Paris 2024 will be petanque, and maybe demonstration, team competition and best rioter .

As a one-time thing, I would love Jai Alai. What a sport that is, with true champions. Pelote Basque. France vs. Spain vs. Argentina.

 

[jmdirt]

This thread turned into a PoS!

 

[Bolder]

I think it comes down to what Lappartient can reasonably accomplish, and where he should spend his political capital.

To me the biggest issue is trust, and if he can persuade advertisers and sponsors that the sport is clean, or at least clean to the point of eliminating the possibility of mechanical cheating, that will go a long way.

As for other doping, I have no idea how you tackle that, so long as the national federations are understaffed, underfunded and rife with self-interest. Tough job, and I suspect he will focus his time on keeping ASO happy. Everything else may have diminishing returns.

 

[samhocking]

I quite like Lappartient's vision for expanding UCIs World Cycling Centre in Switzerland across various continents as satellite versions. I don't know what kind of profits the one in Switzerland returns to UCI, but selling Elite Training & Coaching services in each continent could be very profitable. Always strikes me as a bit odd that an NGB sells Elite Coaching & Sports Science to athletes, but it seems to work, at least in Switzerland anyway?

 

[Echoes]

The moment cycling fans defend the Tour of Qatar, they should not be surprised if this sport is rotten to the bones.

 

[Parker]

Re:

I quite like Lappartient's vision for expanding UCIs World Cycling Centre in Switzerland across various continents as satellite versions. I don't know what kind of profits the one in Switzerland returns to UCI, but selling Elite Training & Coaching services in each continent could be very profitable. Always strikes me as a bit odd that an NGB sells Elite Coaching & Sports Science to athletes, but it seems to work, at least in Switzerland anyway?

They're already doing the satellite versions. South Africa, Japan, Korea and India at the moment.

http://www.uci.ch/development/wcc-satellite-centres/

 

[silvergrenade]

Re: Re:

I quite like Lappartient's vision for expanding UCIs World Cycling Centre in Switzerland across various continents as satellite versions. I don't know what kind of profits the one in Switzerland returns to UCI, but selling Elite Training & Coaching services in each continent could be very profitable. Always strikes me as a bit odd that an NGB sells Elite Coaching & Sports Science to athletes, but it seems to work, at least in Switzerland anyway?

They're already doing the satellite versions. South Africa, Japan, Korea and India at the moment.

http://www.uci.ch/development/wcc-satellite-centres/

I hope cycling reaches the Himalayas. Beautiful, treacherous and steep with altitudes above 4000m.

 

[avanti]

Re:

How do people feel about World Road Champs every 4 years from 2023? Will seem rather strange seeing the rainbow bands on the same rider for 4 years?

Holding the WC every year provides a top cyclist an opportunity to shine when the route suites his riding style.

I would like to TTs conducted on flat roads with few bends and out and back route. If the TTT (which I like) is headed for history how about switching to a mountain time trial.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Paris 2024 will be petanque, and maybe demonstration, team competition and best rioter .

As a one-time thing, I would love Jai Alai. What a sport that is, with true champions. Pelote Basque. France vs. Spain vs. Argentina.

Oh man I would love to see me some Jai Alai.

 

[Robert5091]

http://www.velonews.com/2017/09/new...lls-organizers-tv-boost-womens-cycling_448738

Newly elected UCI president David Lappartient called on race organizers and television companies to give more attention to women’s cycling after he was voted in on Thursday.

We have some wonderful classics, some are on live TV; we’re going the right way but we don’t have a strong stage race like the Tour de France.

“Without this kind of race it will be difficult to promote women. Organizers must take care of this, that’s also part of our global responsibility. We need to have races on TV.”

One idea he has is to create a significant stage race, even though he doubts a three-week race like the men’s grand tours would be a viable option.

But he called on Tour de France organizers ASO to take the lead in such an endeavor.

“To have 10 days would be really helpful.

“They [ASO] are the strongest [organizers] so it would be nice to have them with us.”

 

[Robert5091]

Kwia gives him a thumbs up!

 

[Robert5091]

Re: Re:

I quite like Lappartient's vision for expanding UCIs World Cycling Centre in Switzerland across various continents as satellite versions. I don't know what kind of profits the one in Switzerland returns to UCI, but selling Elite Training & Coaching services in each continent could be very profitable. Always strikes me as a bit odd that an NGB sells Elite Coaching & Sports Science to athletes, but it seems to work, at least in Switzerland anyway?

They're already doing the satellite versions. South Africa, Japan, Korea and India at the moment.

http://www.uci.ch/development/wcc-satellite-centres/

I hope cycling reaches the Himalayas. Beautiful, treacherous and steep with altitudes above 4000m.

Check out the Nepal Cycling Association then ...

 

[samhocking]

Re:

http://www.velonews.com/2017/09/new...lls-organizers-tv-boost-womens-cycling_448738

Newly elected UCI president David Lappartient called on race organizers and television companies to give more attention to women’s cycling after he was voted in on Thursday.

We have some wonderful classics, some are on live TV; we’re going the right way but we don’t have a strong stage race like the Tour de France.

“Without this kind of race it will be difficult to promote women. Organizers must take care of this, that’s also part of our global responsibility. We need to have races on TV.”

One idea he has is to create a significant stage race, even though he doubts a three-week race like the men’s grand tours would be a viable option.

But he called on Tour de France organizers ASO to take the lead in such an endeavor.

“To have 10 days would be really helpful.

“They [ASO] are the strongest [organizers] so it would be nice to have them with us.”

I don't understand why they can't just run the womens race an hour later or whatever would be minimum to prevent overlap behind the mens race. Perhaps start it 1 week after the mens and have the finish in Paris like the mens. If I had spent good money travelling to watch the mens race and the womens race was an hour or two later i'd stick around. Would be fantastic. Same for Roubaix or any race.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Paris 2024 will be petanque, and maybe demonstration, team competition and best rioter .

As a one-time thing, I would love Jai Alai. What a sport that is, with true champions. Pelote Basque. France vs. Spain vs. Argentina.

Oh man I would love to see me some Jai Alai.

Pelota Mano is a bigger sport than Jai-Alai/Zesta Punta though, although admittedly a few of the bigger names in Jai Alai are French whereas as far as I can tell there's only one athlete from Iparralde on either of the two major empresas in Mano, and since Xala retired they don't really have any presence in that form of the game.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Re: Re:

I quite like Lappartient's vision for expanding UCIs World Cycling Centre in Switzerland across various continents as satellite versions. I don't know what kind of profits the one in Switzerland returns to UCI, but selling Elite Training & Coaching services in each continent could be very profitable. Always strikes me as a bit odd that an NGB sells Elite Coaching & Sports Science to athletes, but it seems to work, at least in Switzerland anyway?

They're already doing the satellite versions. South Africa, Japan, Korea and India at the moment.

http://www.uci.ch/development/wcc-satellite-centres/

I hope cycling reaches the Himalayas. Beautiful, treacherous and steep with altitudes above 4000m.

I hope cycling can grow a bit in Japan. It's super mountainous and contrary to many other non-Western locations for cycling, they actually get crowds there and have an impressive infrastructure throughout all their mountains, which could actually realistically host big cycling races.