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So you have noted a single individual that's been immunized, as far as you know as a complete failure of a pandemic strategy. That seems reactive at best. You've characterized the the effort to encourage immunization as a "mafia" and that the "media" is complicit in suppression of non-agenda information.
Many people have been reported by most "media" outlets as having contracted C19/variants since being immunized including every outlet you've cited. I heard about Mr. Dozier on MSNBC or Fox.com....it's not big news. Probably only interesting because a marquee player like the guy living in a bubble in Wisconsin chose to dodge, duck and dive about his true status and got the ultimate Dodgeball shot to the face.

That you get excited enough to extrapolate that the "media" would have a field day about him is a fantasy along with the "mafia" reference. LOL...does that mean Live Only Lies?
But the good news is you got a thumbs up from another huffer of the gas...
Again about the MEDIA!!!! The cartel reported today that Ben Roethlisberger/Pitt QB self reported C19 symptoms and will be out! He's been vaccinated and I found out first on...OAN. No. Foxnews. No. Every other network. YES.
The "Nattering Nabobs of Negativism" was the first characterization of print and broadcast outlets I had heard from a political operative not happy with the daily news. It was Nixon's VP, Spiro Agnew and he beat that drum constantly. Then came the "Silent Majority" as backup to whatever reported developments they continued to wish away. It's not a new idea and it is a really Stupid Boogeyman.
 
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Again about the MEDIA!!!! The cartel reported today that Ben Roethlisberger/Pitt QB self reported C19 symptoms and will be out! He's been vaccinated and I found out first on...OAN. No. Foxnews. No. Every other network. YES.
The "Nattering Nabobs of Negativism" was the first characterization of print and broadcast outlets I had heard from a political operative not happy with the daily news. It was Nixon's VP, Spiro Agnew and he beat that drum constantly. Then came the "Silent Majority" as backup to whatever reported developments they continued to wish away. It's not a new idea and it is a really Stupid Boogeyman.
It all depends if you read and listen to those developing and professionals giving the vaccine. Any time asked ,never is the vaccine described as a silver bullet..a fix all,cure all..get shots and never get any variant of Covid. That assertion is made falsely by others, the uninformed or the deliberate liars.
The purpose of the vaccine is to slow spread,reduce severity of infection and to reduce hospitalizations and deaths..
your mentioned media outlets and others are saying that the vaccine is not working,they are saying look how ineffective the vaccine is as people become infected even after vaccination..but that is the intended, purpose of the vaccine.
The people who made the vaccine say one thing,the anti- something,other agenda media say something else.. If Fox,when Fox has asked they get that answer but it's not a sales point in their narrative.
this is all a self eating circle j-rk..
The masks were never,are never absolute anything..an available,inexpensive,easy to use and understand device to slow the spread, never responsibly discussed as anything more.
Social distancing,hand washing, a cure? No just a retardant to rapid spread.
And those messages were available. Why slow the spread? Not enough doctors,nurses,staff, ambulances,bed space for big surges..look at what they can do if given the room to work,to do the jobs they trained for..our medical people are heros start to finish..
And media person saying or doing anything to make the job of medical people difficult to impossible is dumb,immoral and an anti-Patriot..
You are doing,saying,printing XYZ, which is making their job harder,in turn killing and harming people,why?
If it's a combo answer of ,so what,it's my right,I heard it at church, it's patriotic..all BS of the stinkiest type.

Why would anyone make a doctor's job harder while they are trying to save somebody's life? It's been a long time..I still can't figure it out
 
It shouldn't be a shock to folks in Australia and the US that the networks most interested in marketing one pole of the media response vs. the other are owned by the same entity. To your point: it's a brand of news and broadcasting that gets reliable viewership and the consequential advertising revenue.
I'd be curious if that corporation also has the similar print and broadcast perspective in non-english media that they own and to what effect?
Informed people should take information from even both extremes of position on Covid and other matters. Getting your own opinion from that exposure will be more reliable than settling for any one news source.

Marshall McLuhan wrote The Medium is the Massage in 1967 and the methods were clear before that. Kennedy looking suave before the cameras while Nixon nervously sweated profusely was a hallmark moment in marketing history. Nixon and his party never forgot that and has branded a virtually identical mantra since.
That was also the era of the American Freedom Library, founded by the Koch family predecessors with the express purpose to produce controlled ideas; most of them based on the smallest shred of truth to serve their major goal. Minimize government oversight on family owned industries that have been historically predatory and harsh on the environment. Their methods, think tanks and efforts parallel any other perspective, whomever you think is the "other". It's good to know all of the "others" IMO.
 
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It all depends if you read and listen to those developing and professionals giving the vaccine. Any time asked ,never is the vaccine described as a silver bullet..a fix all,cure all..get shots and never get any variant of Covid. That assertion is made falsely by others, the uninformed or the deliberate liars.
The purpose of the vaccine is to slow spread,reduce severity of infection and to reduce hospitalizations and deaths..
your mentioned media outlets and others are saying that the vaccine is not working,they are saying look how ineffective the vaccine is as people become infected even after vaccination..but that is the intended, purpose of the vaccine.
The people who made the vaccine say one thing,the anti- something,other agenda media say something else.. If Fox,when Fox has asked they get that answer but it's not a sales point in their narrative.
this is all a self eating circle j-rk..
The masks were never,are never absolute anything..an available,inexpensive,easy to use and understand device to slow the spread, never responsibly discussed as anything more.
Social distancing,hand washing, a cure? No just a retardant to rapid spread.
And those messages were available. Why slow the spread? Not enough doctors,nurses,staff, ambulances,bed space for big surges..look at what they can do if given the room to work,to do the jobs they trained for..our medical people are heros start to finish..
And media person saying or doing anything to make the job of medical people difficult to impossible is dumb,immoral and an anti-Patriot..
You are doing,saying,printing XYZ, which is making their job harder,in turn killing and harming people,why?
If it's a combo answer of ,so what,it's my right,I heard it at church, it's patriotic..all BS of the stinkiest type.

Why would anyone make a doctor's job harder while they are trying to save somebody's life? It's been a long time..I still can't figure it out
Except some in the media have demonized and criticized the medical heros who decided against the vax. I agree its dumb, immoral and an anti-Patriotic behavior.
 
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It all depends if you read and listen to those developing and professionals giving the vaccine. Any time asked ,never is the vaccine described as a silver bullet..a fix all,cure all..get shots and never get any variant of Covid. That assertion is made falsely by others, the uninformed or the deliberate liars.
The purpose of the vaccine is to slow spread,reduce severity of infection and to reduce hospitalizations and deaths..
your mentioned media outlets and others are saying that the vaccine is not working,they are saying look how ineffective the vaccine is as people become infected even after vaccination..but that is the intended, purpose of the vaccine.
The people who made the vaccine say one thing,the anti- something,other agenda media say something else.. If Fox,when Fox has asked they get that answer but it's not a sales point in their narrative.
this is all a self eating circle j-rk..
The masks were never,are never absolute anything..an available,inexpensive,easy to use and understand device to slow the spread, never responsibly discussed as anything more.
Social distancing,hand washing, a cure? No just a retardant to rapid spread.
And those messages were available. Why slow the spread? Not enough doctors,nurses,staff, ambulances,bed space for big surges..look at what they can do if given the room to work,to do the jobs they trained for..our medical people are heros start to finish..
And media person saying or doing anything to make the job of medical people difficult to impossible is dumb,immoral and an anti-Patriot..
You are doing,saying,printing XYZ, which is making their job harder,in turn killing and harming people,why?
If it's a combo answer of ,so what,it's my right,I heard it at church, it's patriotic..all BS of the stinkiest type.

Why would anyone make a doctor's job harder while they are trying to save somebody's life? It's been a long time..I still can't figure it out
Not surprised that some doctors and nurses are leaving the profession at the the moment with what they have to put up with inside and outside the clinics and hospitals, its even spilled over into vaccination hubs, and virologists getting death threats. Not only protests but physical attacks.
 
Except some in the media have demonized and criticized the medical heros who decided against the vax. I agree its dumb, immoral and an anti-Patriotic behavior.
I sat down after we accidentally agreed on something. Many of my points you often use as lily pads to hop-right to the point.
The two most important things that will every be associated with the Covid-19 pandemic..the millions that have died,suffered on every gradient of the curve,kids missing school or their grandma to the young mom who lost her soulmate,husband,father to kids,breadwinner and rock..that is obvious to me,but my opinion is..an opinion. Others feel that going to Wal-Mart ranks up there,or wearing a mask is a holocaust parallel..like I said it's an opinion.
I have come away from this- hide under my bed scared of my fellow citizens as some wait for JFK, or think that Jewish space lasers are something of concern. So on that same ever expanding curve, I have to make room for the opinion that bright light is part of something Covid..and I need to turn away and not scowl when horse meds are discussed as proven science,proven by a podcast host or man bunned quarterback as lifesaving.

And the second part is professional people, hard working..the best and brightest..doctors and nurses are unwillingly part of a puppet show,were they routinely lie about the death,suffering and pain they see to reinforce a false narrative that Covid is a hoax of world wide proportion. I have first hand knowledge that nurses and doctors are not fabricating an old international fib..the virus is real..death absolute and suffering and fear unbearable.
When "the media" says anything different..or jumps to prioritize vaccine status or rights as making the top 100 on any priority list..it's just an act of contempt..
Remember I was Navy, w rednecks that had a big, detailed list of things that were hated..then starts the slippery slope of reality..no that's different..I meant the other kind of ---fill in the blank..blacks,gays,Filipinos,woman..pick anything,..same is playing out..watch how instantaneous the shift happens when they or a loved one is faced with death..masks,vaccine,,health care professionals all are suddenly acceptable and essential..
So pain is real..even if you ain't feeling it..
Doctors and nurses at the end of their rope..from working on sick people..that's real even if you don't believe them..
When I watch moms and dads say that they are willing to risk their child's life on something that Tucker Carlson or the Pillow Guy says..I am sick to my stomach..the idea of listening to a pillow pusher about Covid, or the integrity of medical and scientific professionals is absurd,surreal..
 
I sat down after we accidentally agreed on something. Many of my points you often use as lily pads to hop-right to the point.
The two most important things that will every be associated with the Covid-19 pandemic..the millions that have died,suffered on every gradient of the curve,kids missing school or their grandma to the young mom who lost her soulmate,husband,father to kids,breadwinner and rock..that is obvious to me,but my opinion is..an opinion. Others feel that going to Wal-Mart ranks up there,or wearing a mask is a holocaust parallel..like I said it's an opinion.
I have come away from this- hide under my bed scared of my fellow citizens as some wait for JFK, or think that Jewish space lasers are something of concern. So on that same ever expanding curve, I have to make room for the opinion that bright light is part of something Covid..and I need to turn away and not scowl when horse meds are discussed as proven science,proven by a podcast host or man bunned quarterback as lifesaving.

And the second part is professional people, hard working..the best and brightest..doctors and nurses are unwillingly part of a puppet show,were they routinely lie about the death,suffering and pain they see to reinforce a false narrative that Covid is a hoax of world wide proportion. I have first hand knowledge that nurses and doctors are not fabricating an old international fib..the virus is real..death absolute and suffering and fear unbearable.
When "the media" says anything different..or jumps to prioritize vaccine status or rights as making the top 100 on any priority list..it's just an act of contempt..
Remember I was Navy, w rednecks that had a big, detailed list of things that were hated..then starts the slippery slope of reality..no that's different..I meant the other kind of ---fill in the blank..blacks,gays,Filipinos,woman..pick anything,..same is playing out..watch how instantaneous the shift happens when they or a loved one is faced with death..masks,vaccine,,health care professionals all are suddenly acceptable and essential..
So pain is real..even if you ain't feeling it..
Doctors and nurses at the end of their rope..from working on sick people..that's real even if you don't believe them..
When I watch moms and dads say that they are willing to risk their child's life on something that Tucker Carlson or the Pillow Guy says..I am sick to my stomach..the idea of listening to a pillow pusher about Covid, or the integrity of medical and scientific professionals is absurd,surreal..


That some if not all that promote the conspiracy are also selling a product off the back of a lie they absolutely know to be false is immoral to a burn in He*l level. The prejudices on both sides will hopefully be judged someday by what people contributed to actual well being and what they learned. The mercenary opportunists of both extremes of attitude should just go to a Thunderdome giant cage match. No winners from that part of societies IMO.
 
This is strange if you remember in the United States,early in the pandemic,it became apparent that the workplace was in flux. Some places and people identified as essential,others compelled to close, to different levels, for different durations. Immediately,many political leaders wanted to pass legislation that would not hold business and institutions liable for work places injury or death from Covid. And provisions to protect business and institutions from legal responsibility for injuries or death from patrons. Some of the first bumps were from health care workers,meat processing,grocery store employees..
All basically said,the place where I work should take reasonable precautions for my safety and the customer's safety is important..
Aid money was distributed despite there not being legal protection in place..
none of this is ever,can't work.. The guy working at Chick Filet or Dunkin Donuts is no match for me..and for a skinny girl named Christina responsible to ask,verify and enforce my vaccine status and any issues with it..while she is between my double meat,double cheese Animal style In-n-Out Burger..that's dangerous for everyone..don't think that a guy getting my glazed donut should be doing anything about my Covid anything..I see that as evil,dangerous and government over reach..
I am refused pizza cause I forgot my vaccine card..or a grease spot or smeared chocolate sauce made it unreadable..That is dangerous..
I will let auto parts employees check my status and the guy w the tattoos at the lumber yard..I will listen to them..
 
Good luck and health. My 3rd Pfizer was rougher than the first two. My wife is up next...she works for an 80+ year old retired doctor who is vigilante about testing and protocols. OSHA hasn't been around to check on compliance.
Its interesting the difference in peoples' reactions. My wife had Pfizer: shot one only tender arm, shot two headache, cold/hot flashes, tender arm, shot three tender arm (6 months between 2 and 3).

I'm ~9 months from my second, 10 to the day from my first.

I'll see how I am in the morning...
 
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This from the upper East Coast on vaccine limitations in crowds, hopefully not a repeat of previous posts. Seems to bear out that masking and distancing are still of value:

(Bloomberg) -- It was meant to be a summer vacation to celebrate. Thousands of revelers flocked to Provincetown, Massachusetts, for the July Fourth holiday, fully immunized against Covid-19 and ready to enjoy new freedoms, including socializing without face masks.

Instead, the weather turned cool and rainy, and the festivities shifted indoors to pubs, clubs and private homes, creating a crucible for the effectiveness of vaccines used to contain the uber-transmissible delta variant. More than 1,000 Covid cases ensued over the following two weeks, rocking confidence in the inoculations and prompting the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to reinstate an indoor masking mandate.

Four months later, researchers studying those who contracted the virus are gaining important insights into the immunity-bolstering effects of natural infection after vaccination. Importantly, their findings offer clues about the immune protection needed for the coronavirus to cease being a public-health menace and, ultimately, to end the pandemic.

“Our data really puts a different perspective on the Provincetown cohort,” said Dan Barouch, a Harvard Medical School professor and head of Boston’s Beth Israel Deaconess’ Center for Virology and Vaccine Research. “Initially, it was viewed as evidence of vaccine failures. I would actually argue it’s evidence of vaccine success. These vaccines are doing what they are intended to do.”

The outbreak in Provincetown, the small resort town located at the tip of Cape Cod that’s known colloquially as “P-town,” was the first well-described, large cluster of infections with the delta variant in a highly vaccinated population. Some three-quarters of the Covid cases occurred in people who had two doses of either the Pfizer Inc. or Moderna Inc. vaccines, or the single Johnson & Johnson shot, at least 14 days earlier.

Outbreak Probe
Almost 80% of these so-called breakthrough infections were symptomatic. Although the majority led to only mild-to-moderate illness, the Covid surge in the face of high vaccination rates prompted an intense investigation by state and local health officials.

They found the amount of viral material on nasal swabs was similar in vaccinated and unvaccinated people. That surprising finding undercut overly optimistic expectations that the inoculations could eliminate SARS-CoV-2 transmission, particularly given the twice-as-infectious delta strain.

Disease detectives at Boston’s Broad Institute used genomic sequence data to trace the outbreak to just a handful of infected people, including one who was the likely source of more than 80% of cases. Their work proved Covid could spread between fully vaccinated people. Intriguingly, the disease sleuths also found those infected in Provincetown -- who came from 21 states -- contributed only modestly to the delta-fueled U.S. epidemic after they returned home.

The outcome was comforting because it backed what’s already known about immunization, said Helen Petousis-Harris, a vaccinologist at the University of Auckland.

“Vaccination against Covid-19 is the best way to prevent getting severely ill and dying from Covid, but it doesn’t completely stop everyone who gets it from being infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus or from transmitting it,” she said. “However, if you are vaccinated and you get infected, you’re less likely to spread the virus than if you’re unvaccinated.”

Jolted Awake
Detailed analysis performed in Barouch’s Harvard lab helps explain why. He and colleagues studied the immune responses of 35 vaccinated people tested for Covid in the Provincetown outbreak. Those who got a breakthrough infection had a dramatic increase in levels of virus-blocking antibodies and virus-killing T cells, including 34-fold higher neutralizing antibody levels against the delta variant, compared with those who weren’t infected.

An infection five-to-six months after vaccination jolted the body’s immune memory into gear to generate potent, delta-specific antibodies and T cells that helped clear the virus before it caused severe illness or had the chance to spread.

Read more: Antibodies Waning? The Immune System Has a Backup Plan For That

“We think that this is likely the reason why vaccinated people who get breakthrough infections generally have a mild course of disease in the vast majority of cases, because they have a rapid onset of very potent antibody and T cell responses that likely control the virus,” Barouch said over Zoom. “It is likely that those individuals will have high levels of immunity for a prolonged period of time.”

He’s planning to follow the people who had a breakthrough infection to understand the duration of their immunity.

“Do those responses maintain themselves at that high level, or do they then go down over time?” Barouch asked. “That’s a very important question to address.”

‘Anamnestic Response’
Scientists call it an “anamnestic response,” where waning immunity is boosted by subsequent exposure to the virus. The pattern is likely to play out on a larger scale as the coronavirus continues to circulate worldwide, including among people with varying levels of immunity.

More than 7.52 billion doses of Covid vaccine have been given worldwide, though administration has been uneven. Less than 10% of people in much of sub-Sahan Africa have been immunized, data from the Bloomberg Covid-19 Vaccine Tracker show.

It’s expected that the severity of disease and the propensity for onward transmission will decline as each exposure trains the immune system to recognize and respond to the coronavirus faster, including current and future variants. Over time, SARS-CoV-2 will likely cease being a public health menace and resemble something akin to the coronaviruses that cause the common cold, said University of Auckland’s Petousis-Harris.

“We would, of course, prefer that people have a bump in their immune responses from getting additional booster vaccines,” said Barouch, who helped develop the Johnson & Johnson Covid shot. “But in reality, there will be cases of breakthrough infections and those are not rare and they’re not overly concerning because, in the vast majority of cases, they result in only mild disease.”

More studies on breakthrough infections are needed, including to gauge the risk of persistent symptoms often called long Covid, and the levels of immunity that protect against it, he said.

Read more: Why Impact of ‘Long Covid’ Could Outlast the Pandemic

“An expectation for many diseases is that periodic low-grade exposure, resulting in either no infection or asymptomatic infection, boosts immunity and memory,” said Shane Crotty, a professor in the Center for Infectious Disease and Vaccine Research at San Diego’s La Jolla Institute for Immunology. “If that’s observed for SARS-CoV-2 with asymptomatic breakthrough infections, that will be clear evidence of the same phenomenon.”

PS: Also evidence that the "Media" does report vaccine failures. Foxnews did not have it but still has laser focus on the real issues of the day:
 
But there is this bit of Covid 19 justice noted by the Daily Mail (enter your own media characterization here); except for the part where the convicts flee and leave children behind:

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Couple on the run sentenced after stealing $20million in Covid funds
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ALos Angeles fraudster couple who were convicted of trying to steal more than $20million in Covid relief funds have been jailed for 23 years even though they are still on the run.
Richard Ayvazyan, 43, was sentenced Monday in absentia to 17 years and his wife, Marietta Terabelian, 37, was given six years behind bars for conspiracy, bank fraud and money laundering.
Ayvazyan's brother, Artur Ayvazyan, 41, was sentenced to five years.
The three Encino residents were convicted of conspiracy, bank and wire fraud in June, but the husband and wife went on the run in August, cutting their ankle bracelets to flee their $3.25million home they bought with their stolen Covid funds.
They left a note for the three teenage children they abandoned saying: 'We will be together again one day. This is not a goodbye but a brief break from each other.'
© Provided by Daily MailFBI agents are pictured raiding the $3.25million home of Richard Ayvazyan and Marietta Terabelian, which they bought with stolen Covid relief funds, in November 2020
© Provided by Daily MailRichard Ayvazyan
© Provided by Daily MailMarietta Terabelian
They had used dozens of phony or stolen identities - including those of elderly or dead people and foreign exchange students who briefly visited the United States - to submit applications for some 150 federal Covid business relief funds.
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They backed up the applications with false tax documents, and payroll records, officials said.
Instead of going to struggling businesses during the pandemic, the millions received were used for down payments on luxury homes and to buy 'gold coins, diamonds, jewelry, luxury watches, fine imported furnishings, designer handbags, clothing, and a Harley-Davidson motorcycle,' the US attorney's office said.
Days after their disappearance, they were seen on CCTV entering Ayvazyan's mother's house but they quickly left before police arrived.
The FBI is offering a reward of up to $20,000 for information leading to their arrests.
Four other people have pleaded guilty to various charges in the case. A fifth person awaits sentencing but has asked to withdraw her guilty plea.
During the sentencing hearing, US District Judge Stephen V. Wilson said he couldn't recall a fraud case conducted in such a 'callous, intentional way without any regard for the law'.
© Provided by Daily MailAyvazyan, pictured outside court in June before he went on the run, was described as the ringleader of the fraud plot
Sentencing was carried out in front of the couple's children who were visibly distraught upon hearing their parents' crimes, with the judge describing how legitimate businesses were deprived of the relief they needed to sustain themselves in the pandemic.
Wilson singled out Ayvazyan as the ringleader and called him an 'endemic cold-hearted fraudster' with no regard for the law.
He added: 'If given the opportunity, he would concoct another fraud, because the way he spoke of this fraud indicates that that is his way of life.'
The judge said the 'fragrant' fraud could deter lawmakers from granting future bailouts out of fear of being ripped off again.
Prosecutors sought 29 years in prison for Ayvazyan which would have been the longest sentence for anyone in the US for a federal pandemic loan fraud case.
But his lawyer said he deserved no more than six years and described him as a family man, a churchgoer and legitimate businessman.
The attorney also said Ayvazyan's family believes he and his wife are not on the run but were abducted.
Prosecutors said there is no evidence to support this, and pointed to a recent emergency passport application for the couple's children to travel to Armenia.
The FBI previously raided the home in November 2020 and Terabelian was seen throwing a bag of more than $450,000 into the bushes in their backyard.
Wilson has ordered the husband and wife to pay a fine of $50,000 but has not yet decided on whether to approve the government's request for more than $16million in restitution.
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So, the vaxx czar, and the guy who doesn't believe that natural immunity is exists against Covid, wants to change the current definition of fully vaccinated (2 shots) to requiring the 3rd booster shot. So, what happens to the some of current fully vaccinated who decline the booster? Probably have to join the ranks of outlawed, fugitive unvaccinated. Lol.
 
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I didn't know that you had Covid. What were your circumstances? Did you need any medical intervention? Curious - what's your age?
52 years old now and was 51 when I got covid. Was not hospitalized - went into urgent care with what I thought was a bad cold (severe coughing but not any noticeable breathing problems). Had to have steroids and If I remember correctly a Ceftazidime injection . At the time my pulmonologist suspected Covid but thought maybe it was too early in the game. Come to find out it was Covid. I got the antibody testing and it was confirmed. I have asthma that never required any inhaeler even though I kept one. I did not use it during Covid and have not used it at all.

My Vo2 is around 69 now and I believe prior to Covid it was about 67. I never ran during the one week I had Covid (what I thought was a cold or flu) so I am not sure if it dipped or not, the week I went back to my regular milage the Vo2 numbers were around the same. I looked at my data files and they were 66 to 67.
 
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But there is this bit of Covid 19 justice noted by the Daily Mail (enter your own media characterization here); except for the part where the convicts flee and leave children behind:
Daily Mail
Couple on the run sentenced after stealing $20million in Covid funds
Jack Newman For Mailonline - 6h ago
FollowReact22 Comments|



© Provided by Daily Mail

ALos Angeles fraudster couple who were convicted of trying to steal more than $20million in Covid relief funds have been jailed for 23 years even though they are still on the run.
Richard Ayvazyan, 43, was sentenced Monday in absentia to 17 years and his wife, Marietta Terabelian, 37, was given six years behind bars for conspiracy, bank fraud and money laundering.
Ayvazyan's brother, Artur Ayvazyan, 41, was sentenced to five years.
The three Encino residents were convicted of conspiracy, bank and wire fraud in June, but the husband and wife went on the run in August, cutting their ankle bracelets to flee their $3.25million home they bought with their stolen Covid funds.
They left a note for the three teenage children they abandoned saying: 'We will be together again one day. This is not a goodbye but a brief break from each other.'
© Provided by Daily MailFBI agents are pictured raiding the $3.25million home of Richard Ayvazyan and Marietta Terabelian, which they bought with stolen Covid relief funds, in November 2020
© Provided by Daily MailRichard Ayvazyan
© Provided by Daily MailMarietta Terabelian
They had used dozens of phony or stolen identities - including those of elderly or dead people and foreign exchange students who briefly visited the United States - to submit applications for some 150 federal Covid business relief funds.
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They backed up the applications with false tax documents, and payroll records, officials said.
Instead of going to struggling businesses during the pandemic, the millions received were used for down payments on luxury homes and to buy 'gold coins, diamonds, jewelry, luxury watches, fine imported furnishings, designer handbags, clothing, and a Harley-Davidson motorcycle,' the US attorney's office said.
Days after their disappearance, they were seen on CCTV entering Ayvazyan's mother's house but they quickly left before police arrived.
The FBI is offering a reward of up to $20,000 for information leading to their arrests.
Four other people have pleaded guilty to various charges in the case. A fifth person awaits sentencing but has asked to withdraw her guilty plea.
During the sentencing hearing, US District Judge Stephen V. Wilson said he couldn't recall a fraud case conducted in such a 'callous, intentional way without any regard for the law'.
© Provided by Daily MailAyvazyan, pictured outside court in June before he went on the run, was described as the ringleader of the fraud plot
Sentencing was carried out in front of the couple's children who were visibly distraught upon hearing their parents' crimes, with the judge describing how legitimate businesses were deprived of the relief they needed to sustain themselves in the pandemic.
Wilson singled out Ayvazyan as the ringleader and called him an 'endemic cold-hearted fraudster' with no regard for the law.
He added: 'If given the opportunity, he would concoct another fraud, because the way he spoke of this fraud indicates that that is his way of life.'
The judge said the 'fragrant' fraud could deter lawmakers from granting future bailouts out of fear of being ripped off again.
Prosecutors sought 29 years in prison for Ayvazyan which would have been the longest sentence for anyone in the US for a federal pandemic loan fraud case.
But his lawyer said he deserved no more than six years and described him as a family man, a churchgoer and legitimate businessman.
The attorney also said Ayvazyan's family believes he and his wife are not on the run but were abducted.
Prosecutors said there is no evidence to support this, and pointed to a recent emergency passport application for the couple's children to travel to Armenia.
The FBI previously raided the home in November 2020 and Terabelian was seen throwing a bag of more than $450,000 into the bushes in their backyard.
Wilson has ordered the husband and wife to pay a fine of $50,000 but has not yet decided on whether to approve the government's request for more than $16million in restitution.
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Where is the justice? They are in another country. The fools got away from the country and eventually their Children will be there also. Coworker's brother in-law got busted for the same thing. I think he is in jail now and did not flee the country.
 
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So, the vaxx czar, and the guy who doesn't believe that natural immunity is exists against Covid, wants to change the current definition of fully vaccinated (2 shots) to requiring the 3rd booster shot. So, what happens to the some of current fully vaccinated who decline the booster? Probably have to join the ranks of outlawed, fugitive unvaccinated. Lol.
Could you provide a quote where Fauci confirms he believes natural immunity doesn't exist? I'm sure there is plenty of information.
Like suggesting it may be inadequate to defend against more aggressive strains or that it is not an indefinite immunity, whatever. LOL
 
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