Critérium du Dauphiné 2024, June 2 - 9

[RedheadDane]

Isn't it bannable to say that we prefer to see a rider crash than win a stage?

Then not than.
For some reason he wants Roglic to both crash (yesterday) and win (today)

Roglič hitting the deck and as it looks like no real damage, that works for me, much rather take that then a stage win today.

 

[Ulle97]

Off to work now. Can't wait to scroll through Procyclingstats at the end of the day and see Remco at no.1.

 

[tobydawq]

Then not than.
For some reason he wants Roglic to both crash (yesterday) and win (today)

I think that's poor grammar and that he did mean what I wrote (that he'd rather see him crash than win).

Which is odd and against forum rules.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Top ranked PCS timetrial specialists on the startlist:

1 EVENEPOEL Remco SOQ 766
2 AYUSO Juan UAD 575
3 TARLING JoshuaI GD 560
4 ARMIRAIL Bruno DAT 345
5 PEDERSEN Mads LTK 330
6 TIBERI Antonio TBV 330
7 VAN WILDER Ilan SOQ 257
8 ROGLIČ Primož BOH 240
9 WELLENS Tim UAD 216
10 CASTROVIEJO Jonathan IGD 161
11 SOBRERO Matteo BOH 155
12 EDMONDSON Alex DFP 146
13 VLASOV Aleksandr BOH 146
14 WRIGHT Fred TBV 145
15 KWIATKOWSKI MichałI GD 144
16 GUERNALEC Thibault ARK 143
17 GODON Dorian DAT 142
18 BENNETT Sam DAT 110
19 RODRÍGUEZ Carlos IGD 107
20 CURRIE Logan LTD 107

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Those PCS rankings always make me laugh. How on earth is Van Wilder a better TT'er than Roglic?

The PCS rankings sum the amount of points gained in the past year for (in this case) TTs. Roglic has done two in this period whereas Van Wilder has done seven, hence why it goes wrong.

 

[tobydawq]

Top ranked PCS timetrial specialists on the startlist:

1 EVENEPOEL Remco SOQ 766
2 AYUSO Juan UAD 575
3 TARLING JoshuaI GD 560
4 ARMIRAIL Bruno DAT 345
5 PEDERSEN Mads LTK 330
6 TIBERI Antonio TBV 330
7 VAN WILDER Ilan SOQ 257
8 ROGLIČ Primož BOH 240
9 WELLENS Tim UAD 216
10 CASTROVIEJO Jonathan IGD 161
11 SOBRERO Matteo BOH 155
12 EDMONDSON Alex DFP 146
13 VLASOV Aleksandr BOH 146
14 WRIGHT Fred TBV 145
15 KWIATKOWSKI MichałI GD 144
16 GUERNALEC Thibault ARK 143
17 GODON Dorian DAT 142
18 BENNETT Sam DAT 110
19 RODRÍGUEZ Carlos IGD 107
20 CURRIE Logan LTD 107

I would hazard a guess that Carlos Rodríguez manages to turn the tables and beats Bennett today...

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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[tobydawq]

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I'm no Van Wilder expert but I certainly would rate his TT below those of Armirail and Pedersen.

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[Berflamand]

I'm having trouble reading the profile and map of the TT. The second half seems to be quite a lot uphill, albeit on shallow gradients most of the time.

It also doesn't look that technical apart from the part before the second intermediate.

This looks to me quite a hard TT, probably sub 50km/h for the winner I guess?

 

[Slavique Nuke]

Those PCS rankings always make me laugh. How on earth is Van Wilder a better TT'er than Roglic?

These points tables are always silly and not weighted properly. PSC says Hirschi is the second best one-day rider, Pedersen the best on the hills....

 

[velaso montador]

Roglic to shock someone in dauphine today and beat Tarling even and Evenpoel?

For the tour suspense lets hope for something like that, would be epic. Allez

 

[Samu Cuenca]

 

[CyclistAbi]

"A leadout was missing", CyclistAbi says, while Roglic literally was in the perfect position to win the stage. What do you actually expect, to get the stages literally served on a silver platter or whats going on? It doesn't get better than this, he just didn't have anything to contest the sprint.

Sure it can get better than this and yes it's expected for sprinters to get a stage served on a sliver platter. Their job is to perform good in last 50m or less. Anything beyond that, they pass, as the team didn't do good enough job.

 

[CyclistAbi]

They wanted EF to hand deliver Roglic to Gee’s wheel and GTFO so they don’t crash into him.

Obviously to get relegated if there is misconduct involved. That is on how sprinting works.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Then not than.
For some reason he wants Roglic to both crash (yesterday) and win (today)

Thanks for correcting @tobydawq for misspelling.

 

[pablohidalgo7]

Roglic to shock someone in dauphine today and beat Tarling even and Evenpoel?

For the tour suspense lets hope for something like that, would be epic. Allez

It will be not a shock if the TT is really that hard, some data:
After La Planche disaster Roglic have ride 10 TT with and average speed under 50 kmh with a result of 8/10 (with second and third in the two defeats)
And if we go sub49 kmh is 8/8.
I think this TT is on the edge of being pro Roglic or not, but if he has great legs he definetely can win.

 

[velaso montador]

It will be not a shock if the TT is really that hard, some data:
After La Planche disaster Roglic have ride 10 TT with and average speed under 50 kmh with a result of 8/10 (with second and third in the two defeats)
And if we go sub49 kmh is 8/8.
I think this TT is on the edge of being pro Roglic or not, but if he has great legs he definetely can win.

Not a shock indeed but impressive and intriguing.

Taking into account if Tarling is 100% that is its a good measurement stick if he where to beat him even in a hard TT.

 

[CyclistAbi]

It's the hour of truth, was Remco sandbagging, is Rogla affected by the crash, is the form of both on track for the Tour ... Will any of the riders mentioned in above discussion surprise, or not. As things like betting odds and some rankings can from time to time go awry.

Personally i am hoping for a good TT by Rogla, as that would indicate not only the form but equipment is top notch too. Lets see.

 

[tobydawq]

Thanks for correcting @tobydawq for misspelling.

It was you who had misspelled

 

[topcat]

Not singling anyone out here. I find it interesting how being a fan of a rider affects objectivity. (People believe what they want to believe.) I'm in the perfect position of not being a fan of any of the riders in the race, so I'm 100% objective (Sam Bennett for the win). I'm not big into watching time trials (mountain stages with actual attacks are my fillet mignon) but I hope we get some hysterical spin on the performances of the two marquee riders Remco and Rog today.

 

[search]

Armirail often used to take it easy when he had to work for Gaudu in the same race, so I'd think both of their palmares don't really reflect their abilities.

Current shape should favor Armirail, I guess.

 

[CyclistAbi]

It was you who had misspelled

I see, together we will make it! Thanks guys.

 

[Lequack]

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[Valv.Piti]

Sure it can get better than this and yes it's expected for sprinters to get a stage served on a sliver platter. Their job is to perform good in last 50m or less. Anything beyond that, they pass, as the team didn't do good enough job.

You continue to make sense. Roglic was shitty yesterday, he was in perfect position to contest the stage. Im flabbergasted everytime I interact with you.

 

[topcat]

I don't want to start wholesale inforumicide but there's only one important question:
Is Blake Quick a quicker timetrialer than Jensen Plowright?