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jonjungel said:
luckyboy said:
He made some strange comments about his Tour, how he felt great but something with the preparation wasn't there. What is going on at UAE?
Kristoff said more or less the same thing.
Roughly translated from memory: "I'm totally out of it. Don't expect anything from me on the last stage. Actually, the whole team is a bit out of it, and we think we know why."
He did not want to go into more details.
Very strange... Martin said it'll become known soon enough.
 
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happytramp said:
jonjungel said:
luckyboy said:
He made some strange comments about his Tour, how he felt great but something with the preparation wasn't there. What is going on at UAE?
Kristoff said more or less the same thing.
Roughly translated from memory: "I'm totally out of it. Don't expect anything from me on the last stage. Actually, the whole team is a bit out of it, and we think we know why."
He did not want to go into more details.
Very strange... Martin said it'll become known soon enough.
Not allowed to discuss here IMHO!
Well known problem of Lampre though.
 
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Rumors has it that UAE changed their sport drink to something the riders were not used to for TdF. Bystrom said in an interview that he had gained 2-3 kg during the race because the new drink caused the body to accumulate water and this had happened to most of the riders on the team.

Still a rumor although if this turns out to be the cause, the leadership has basically ruined the entire team chance to get a result at this Tour de France.
I've seen alot of people talk about Dan Martin looking "heavy" this tour, so I guess there might be something to this?
 
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Mayomaniac said:
If that's true than I hope that a new sponsorship deal was involved. Otherwise it would be really stupid, even amateurs test sport drinks durning training before using them in a race.
Not even a sponsorship deal would excuse that. They're paid to win bike races, and if something in their nutrition makes them put on weight, that's not going to help win bike races.

I didn't think Martin looked "heavy" during the race, I thought he looked slow. If he had gained 2-3kgs during the race like Bystrom, that would explain him looking slow.

But once something like that was noticed, surely the team would switch back to the old stuff, or if it was a case of a bad batch of the product, source some of the same from a different facility, or something. And if Dan Martin had started weighing in 200-300g heavier per day early in the race, surely that's a sign of something being amiss.

In short, I don't buy that it was just "our sports drink was making us fat."
 
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Mayomaniac said:
Lequack said:
Oliver said:
It's not only this Tour UAE sucks. The whole year is bad.
The young Pogacar and Ulissi have been going very well.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/team/uae-team-emirates-2019/wins
Yeah, they've been a lot better than last year. The management changed most of the staff members and got rid of most of the old Lampre guys, that's the main reason.
Albeit Phillippe Maduit is a good directeur sportif to be fair!
 
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staubsauger said:
Mayomaniac said:
Lequack said:
Oliver said:
It's not only this Tour UAE sucks. The whole year is bad.
The young Pogacar and Ulissi have been going very well.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/team/uae-team-emirates-2019/wins
Yeah, they've been a lot better than last year. The management changed most of the staff members and got rid of most of the old Lampre guys, that's the main reason.
Albeit Phillippe Maduit is a good directeur sportif to be fair!
Yes, it was mainly about doctors, coaches and other staff members, but we're probably in the wrong subforum to discuss the details.
 
I would say that drinkgate is a case for corruption wherein somebody in the top management decided to go for the idea over the objections of the staff for personal gain. Only thing is the idea blew up spectacularly in public damaging everybody. Ditto TBH and the Dennis case.
 
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staubsauger said:
Mayomaniac said:
Lequack said:
Oliver said:
It's not only this Tour UAE sucks. The whole year is bad.
The young Pogacar and Ulissi have been going very well.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/team/uae-team-emirates-2019/wins
Yeah, they've been a lot better than last year. The management changed most of the staff members and got rid of most of the old Lampre guys, that's the main reason.
Albeit Phillippe Maduit is a good directeur sportif to be fair!
Mauduit is with Groupama FDJ this year.
 
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ciranda said:
staubsauger said:
Mayomaniac said:
Lequack said:
Oliver said:
It's not only this Tour UAE sucks. The whole year is bad.
The young Pogacar and Ulissi have been going very well.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/team/uae-team-emirates-2019/wins
Yeah, they've been a lot better than last year. The management changed most of the staff members and got rid of most of the old Lampre guys, that's the main reason.
Albeit Phillippe Maduit is a good directeur sportif to be fair!
Mauduit is with Groupama FDJ this year.
Yeah, hence why I explicitly mentioned him as being a competent person!
 
Out of the Dauphiné with a fractured lower back. He says he thinks he heals well and should be ready for the Tour. I hope he gives it a pass and looks to Liege and the Vuelta instead.
Well I was half right I guess?

Sitting 2nd in gc, 2nd in points (wearing green because Rog) 2nd in KOM. He could do very well in all 3. Can anyone nail down a reason why he’s never really gone for KOM in a GT before? By all logic, it’s a competition he ought to be good at (get in the break, kick faster than others 500m from the top, repeat 3x per day, mix it with the gc guys at some MTFs).
 
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