Dave Millar - anti doping hero

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Dazed and Confused said:
Millar is like a whoore hanging around the lobby in a six star hotel in Dubai.

Just setting himself up for the next job.


http://road.cc/content/news/133358-david-millar-says-cycling-became-burden-wants-enjoy-sport-again

"I'd like to get back into sport being something I go out and have fun doing rather than worrying about numbers and science."

He added that while he hopes to stay in cycling, perhaps on the business side, "I need a break from the whole racing scene. It's been my whole adult life, even my kid life since being a teenager."

Millar, banned from the sport for two years in 2004 and stripped of the world time trial title he had won the previous year after admitting using EPO also spoke of his lack of awareness of the sport’s dopingculture when he first entered it.

"I don't think any of us did until we were in it, but since then it's night and day: then it was night, and now it's day."

He believes young professionals nowadays don’t face the same pressures to dope that he and his contemporaries did, saying: “Kids coming in now can have a great, clean career, which wasn't necessarily the case when I turned pro."
 
86TDFWinner said:
Nlot a fan of the guy either, so bump away. I don't "get" why he's considered a "hero", or am I missing the sarcasm in the thread title?

No sarcasm in the thread title, it was started by a poster who was absolutely mortified at seeing people like Millar not being venerated in here and repeatedly complained to the mods that he wasn't allowed to launch vicious personal attacks on other posters, but they were allowed to make slurs on the clean achievements of Sir Bradley.
 
Sep 29, 2012
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Libertine Seguros said:
No sarcasm in the thread title, it was started by a poster who was absolutely mortified at seeing people like Millar not being venerated in here and repeatedly complained to the mods that he wasn't allowed to launch vicious personal attacks on other posters, but they were allowed to make slurs on the clean achievements of Sir Bradley.

He continued his good work in the comments sections of the CN articles.
 
Libertine Seguros said:
No sarcasm in the thread title, it was started by a poster who was absolutely mortified at seeing people like Millar not being venerated in here and repeatedly complained to the mods that he wasn't allowed to launch vicious personal attacks on other posters, but they were allowed to make slurs on the clean achievements of Sir Bradley.

I gotcha;)
 
Mar 13, 2009
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Granville57 said:
Not originally, that is true. But in The Clinic, we decide. :cool:
yes, The Clinic 12 decide. JV learnt a lesson. It is we who decide, like Dubbya was wont to say, I am the decider, we are the deciderZ
 
Oct 16, 2010
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bumping some Millar-related posts in the context of the discussion over in the Brits don't dope? thread.
Especially these three posts by Illudo and Diorgen, very interesting in terms of assessing Brailsford's involvement:
lllludo said:
I think Millar confessed usage of EPO prior to 2004 only on rare occasions. For example he claimed that he finished clean 6" off Ullrich in the 2001 ITT WC (but beating Botero, Leipheimer, Hoste, Bodrogi, Gonzalez).
Before 2004 he was the star rider on the road for the UK team and developped a special bound with Brailsford. However he sometimes used EPO while racing for the "honest" UK cycling team manager.
Gaumont was arrested in January 2004 and Millar only in June that year. During that 5 month span he was always supported by Brailsford in spite of the accusations made by Gaumont. Brailsford was having a casual lunch with Millar when busted by the French cops.
So as Millar lies and supports dopers, UK cycling top man, the guy with a huge IQ, is a) extremely naïve when it comes to doping, b) lying and covering dopers as well

diorgen said:
This has me thinking. So if you're Dave Brailsford, and you're committed to clean cycling (use your imagination) and you're with Millar when he gets arrested, isn't this a guy who has betrayed your trust and damaged your own reputation?

Funny then that later on Brailsford would campaign for Millar to be allowed to ride for him in the Olympics, and on top of that, be employing Millar's sister in a sham PR job (that she seems incredibly bad at). Keeping Millar quiet?

In fact Brailsford has been involved in doping throughout and the British track success comes from the needle.

diorgen said:
I also see he moved to Manchester and trained at the velodrome while he was suspended. Brailsford really looked after him didn't he. Very curious.
 
May 26, 2010
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sniper said:
bumping some Millar-related posts in the context of the discussion over in the Brits don't dope? thread.
Especially these three posts by Illudo and Diorgen, very interesting in terms of assessing Brailsford's involvement:

Well found. With all those hammering away at Brailsford being an angel good to see others opinions of him are he is fully aware of the real deals of the sport.
 
Oct 16, 2010
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wow, Millar all over the place on twitter trying to discredit the CIRC report.
David Millar @millarmind ? 1h 1 hour ago

The two RT's I just made. Lawyers are not checked by lawyers. Journalists are. Who checked the CIRC for libel? @BrianCooksonUCI check it.
proper reply from Digger
**** the hypocrisy @Digger_forum ? 6m 6 minutes ago

Millar saying the circ is libellous! The guy who was initiating legal proceedings against Kimmage, in 04, weeks before he was arrested.
 
Mar 11, 2009
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The Hitch said:
I think we need a new millar thread. David Millar - bitter liar and loser, or some other title that more accurately portrays the scumbag than the current one

David Millar "Bloser" kind of like Cyclings own Kanye..
 
Wasn't this the same non-transparent Millar that openly criticized the suspicion index?



While there might have been an argument about releasing the list, arguing with the contents is/was absurd.

And this was a guy scored a 0 on suspicion. Yet was upset about the contents?

I agree with everyone above who would like to see this guy out of the sport once-and-for-all.

He isn't complying with his team's policy on supporting anti-doping authorities, and has never been.

Millar finally has achieved his dream. He has supplanted Armstrong, albeit as the new face of hypocrisy in cycling.

Dave.
 
May 23, 2013
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roundabout said:
Nah, the thread title has consistently been making me laugh for close to 4 years now. Let it be.

I've just finally read the first post in the thread. I'd always presumed the title was ironic.

Then again, perhaps it was and its poster was a fairly sophisticated troll.
 
May 26, 2010
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scholar said:
I've just finally read the first post in the thread. I'd always presumed the title was ironic.

Then again, perhaps it was and its poster was a fairly sophisticated troll.

Nah, IanFra was a hack on cycling weekly for a long time. He believe's sky are the real deal and Millar is a true sporting hero.

IanFra allegedly now lives in Thailand..........
 
Nov 2, 2013
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https://twitter.com/wada_ama/status/511874308659232768

When I first read this I was like, blech, then just feeling disappointed at another nail into my faith in WADA/ADA's coffin

WADA - naive or playing the antidoping pr game too?

I get it that Millar is a good PR man, but he is no more than that and given all the second chances and hands up he has been given when I read this article (see quotes below) I lost all remaining bits of respect for the tiny man that Millar is.

Millar is a narcissistic in the mold of Armstrong. He will eventually dig his own grave with his hubris. Can't happen fast enough IMO.

Millar, who came back in 2006 from a two-year doping ban after admitting his guilt, is furious at Landis.

"He's reached the end of the road and I just find it disgusting," said Millar from his home training base in Girona, Spain. "He's a liar and a cheat and he has nothing left in cycling so he just wants to burn the house down."

After Landis' ban four years ago, Millar said he tried calling him to give advice on how to return to the sport. He never received a return call.

"If he had stood up and manned up four years ago, he'd be racing the Tour de France now," Millar said. "He'd have a different book out. He'd have not lost a penny. He'd be admired by young people. He would have a different life ahead of him. He'd be in a decent mental state. He'd be sober.

"And he'd be married."