So yet another lying cheater is back racing and he has this to say in the interview " I still have that house that you interviewed me in".... you mean the one you bought with drug money?Why the f%$# is Garmin so hot for him? Just sayin'.
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Dekker WTF?????????????????????
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Johnny V started connecting the dots that lead to more possible sponsors and that lead him to signing Dekker.
Eventually, the argyle will take on a more Orange tint.
Too bad Johnny V doesn't see the dots leading him back to Santa Clara shallow grave of his old bike.
Eventually, the argyle will take on a more Orange tint.
Too bad Johnny V doesn't see the dots leading him back to Santa Clara shallow grave of his old bike.
bikeguy said:
You would prefer Valverde, who feels he's been horribly wronged?
I am not happy with Dekker, and I'm Dutch, but there are worse dopers and men than him in the peloton.
Indeed I don't quite see why Dekker should be so much worse than others. He doped, got found out, served his time and is riding again. As are many others like Basso, Scarponi, Valverde, Millar, Schumacher, Di Luca, Rebellin, etc.
Regards
GJ
Regards
GJ
Cranky McSlik said:
Context. Context is the word. He was talking about the house in Belgium he bought on advice by friends and managers to stay away from certain places and go back to a closer-to-home enviroment. When he was first interviewed, the house was just new and there was nothing in it.
So awful when people have no freckin idea what they are talking about and sprout random nonsense like you. Begone!
thehog
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Cranky McSlik said:
Yes its important if you're caught doping that you lose everything and become desitute. Thats what we need. Cyclists on the poverty line for doping sins. Go ask Floyd. He lost everything - just the way we like it. Then they become bitter and twisted and take down bigger sporting stars because they're jealous of their success.
Here relax a bit FFS. Hes served his suspension & spoke with WADA & if im correct will travel to cycling clubs & explain the perils of living the life he once used too. Give him his second chance. People here want him destitute like Landis. Dekker didnt take public money from people. He didnt hide anything & put his hands up. Let him have his go. I love this place when its the Morality Pit.
haven't you heard? dopers who aint anglo saxon have no right for second chances.
they can't all be david millars and be heroes of cycling
they can't all be david millars and be heroes of cycling
He was caught. He was punished. End of story.
You should probably focus your angst on the others who have never been held accountable.
You should probably focus your angst on the others who have never been held accountable.
ElChingon said:
I don't think you know what you are talking about. Russian mafia money laundered through Spain may be a great source of sponsorship dollars. It wasn't Nikolai that JV butted heads with. I just hope that he doesn't revert to the hairstyle. Although with a little work, Dekker could pull it off.
18-Valve. (pithy) said:
B0ll0cks! When the positive first came out, he did indeed come out and say that he felt unjustly targetted in being the only one who got retro-tested (which is indeed weird if you think of it). Since then he is been quite open and hasn't said anything about having been wronged in any way. Quite the opposite really. I dare you to provide links to back up your claim.
Regards
GJ
thehog
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GJB123 said:B0ll0cks! When the positive first came out, he did indeed come out and say that he felt unjustly targetted in being the only one who got retro-tested (which is indeed weird if you think of it). Since then he is been quite open and hasn't said anything about having been wronged in any way. Quite the opposite really. I dare you to provide links to back up your claim.
Regards
GJ
So he should lose his house?
"There are worase dopers than him " really ? more BS for the PR machine .
There are a bunch of riders who have not tested positive that are broke too..
Who should the "clean team" look at?Guess JV can sign whoever he wants
Remember deeds not words.
There are a bunch of riders who have not tested positive that are broke too..
Who should the "clean team" look at?Guess JV can sign whoever he wants
Remember deeds not words.
thehog
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thehog said:So he should lose his house?
Come again. Where did I say that? I am trying to show the Valvere-fanboi that Dekker is not doing and saying the same as Valverde by stating that he was wronged.
GJB123 said:B0ll0cks! When the positive first came out, he did indeed come out and say that he felt unjustly targetted in being the only one who got retro-tested (which is indeed weird if you think of it). Since then he is been quite open and hasn't said anything about having been wronged in any way. Quite the opposite really. I dare you to provide links to back up your claim.
Regards
GJ
Since then he did a documentary in case you forgot. Find it yourself. He obviously still felt that way WAY after the fact. Did he suddenly change his mind? Why? If it was "weird" then it is "weird" now. He was already competing clean before his suspension, judging by his horrible 2009 season and JV's remarks.
Regards
18-Valve
Very good thread, I definitely think UCI should've burned down his house after his positive test
thehog
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maltiv said:Very good thread, I definitely think UCI should've burned down his house after his positive test
I agree. In fact don't burn the house down just give it to the McQuaid family. They are much better suited looking after such matters.
18-Valve. (pithy) said:
I have seen the documentary, thank you very much and although indeed he wasn't actually chastising himself, he did feel sorry for himself and was rather depressed (which in itself isn't that strange now, really?). However at no time during the documentary he said he was wronged or that they were wrong for banning him. Much rather he was saying that he himself had been stupid to do doping. All in all you have proved zilch on Dkeer being unrepentant, unlike your man Valverde who is still shouting from the top of his lungs that he didn't do anything wrong.
Regards
GJ
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18-Valve. (pithy) said:
You actually ask the right questions, yet will never find it if you hold a "weird the" weird now" attitude.
In that documentary Dekker was in denial, he was angry, he felt picked on - no, I doubt he suddenly changed his mind, but I would think he had a slow realization that he had to accept responsibility and would have to change his attitude.
The "why" appears to have started when he was courted by Garmin - they expressed an interest, but he would have to pass their tests - not just physiological but a change in attitude also. Which is why they took so long in bringing him in to the top team.
thehog
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The reason the rides ask "why"? is that when everyone else is doping why were they the ones to test positive. You can understand the reaction of being angry.
It the same as ourselves if we lose our jobs - why did we get chosen.
It’s not hard to imagine.
It the same as ourselves if we lose our jobs - why did we get chosen.
It’s not hard to imagine.
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