All right, but not quite.
Also succeeded against Froome and Sky, and you'd hardly call their Dauphine team weak.Dazed and Confused said:Talansky only succeeded against a weak team from Tinkoff.
Against the strengths of Astana's tour team this year or Sky ('12) Talansky would have failed completely.
Way too hypothetical, it was the Vuelta and both had vuelta teams, it wasn't like Saxo was amazingly strong. A Tour team say Astana, but then Contador would be bridging to Rogers, Roche, Majka and in keeping p with Contador's attack maybe only Fuglsang and/or Scarponi remain close enough to be useful.Dazed and Confused said:Same for Contador's long distance attack in Vuelta . Weak Katusha had been working at the front for days. J-Rod and Moreno doesn't provide much firepower during a rouleur section . Similar tactics from Contador's would have failed in the Tour against a strong team.
If you go insight of the line you are pitting your strength against theirs, this is dumb and will never work, unless you think you can out TT a TTT, granted uphill it may be easier, but you'll need to be amazing.Dazed and Confused said:Quintana's long distance attack (AX3) in the tour last year was quashed by team Sky. No chance for him.
Could still have worked, guessing we'll never know.Dazed and Confused said:Take Quintana's long distance attack in the Giro this year, well it only worked as a result of a botched neutralization. Without the fucc up, the stage would have been a wheelsuckers paradise just like the rest of the MTFs in that giro.
Also the perception of team strength, but you are spot on.Dazed and Confused said:Excessive team strength suffocate exciting race action and reduces the spectacle to 3 km sprint on multi mountain stages. Crazy development.
Spot on, but I think this is exaggerated. The same info comes through on blackboards and it isn't hard to do the maths in your head, but someone else doing it for you and the extra speed of radios plays a part.Dazed and Confused said:And of course team radios helps a strong team control a stage. Goes without saying.
Maybe not reduce, but even up I think. Certainly in terms of GC, stage hunters still get enough chances.Dazed and Confused said:Unless there is a way to reduce team strength in a race like the Tour, I'm pretty confident we will see less long distance attacks moving forward.