Everything considered, it would have to be Lance Armstrong. Not only for doping but also for all the **** he put a lot of people through.
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hrotha said:Thread is dirtiest, not winningest. LA, AC and what have you have absolutely nothing on the likes of Herve.
Try Hamburger, or Gaumont, or Bruylandts, or someone along those lines. They might come sorta close.
DFA123 said:Another vote for Riis here.
When you think of donkey turned into racehorse, he is the one that immediately springs to mind for me. He dismantled a field of riders who were all doped to the eyeballs - on a climb averaging nearly 9% gradient despite being built nothing like a climber.
Added points for his team's doping record as a manager.
Tournesol said:Manzano said Fuentes would tell him he would be either "barking like a dog" or "mooing like a cow" in the bunch that day depending on what animal he'd used to soup up his engine.Jeez,that's heavy,as if the pressures of the race wouldn't be bad enough without wondering what animal you would be imitating later.
Dr Dave ftwhrotha said:Thread is dirtiest, not winningest. LA, AC and what have you have absolutely nothing on the likes of Herve.
Try Hamburger, or Gaumont, or Bruylandts, or someone along those lines. They might come sorta close.
euroking said:Who was the dirtiest rider in the history of cycling past or present?
at Laurent Jalabert's cocaine and pot belge parties in Cannes?veganrob said:What about the guys doing the pot belge cocktails. Gotta be brave do do that ***.
cound should procreate now!thehog said:Riis could ride a bike straight. He was handy. Froome was lucky to be a Pro. His doping is prolific. And his weight loss drugs are mentally insane. If the Dawg actually lives past 2016 I'd be amazed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyqyVKSJiOMDFA123 said:Another vote for Riis here.
When you think of donkey turned into racehorse, he is the one that immediately springs to mind for me. He dismantled a field of riders who were all doped to the eyeballs - on a climb averaging nearly 9% gradient despite being built nothing like a climber.
Added points for his team's doping record as a manager.
hrotha said:Thread is dirtiest, not winningest. LA, AC and what have you have absolutely nothing on the likes of Herve.
Try Hamburger, or Gaumont, or Bruylandts, or someone along those lines. They might come sorta close.
hilarious.Tournesol said:I can't really say Kelme as they are a team so i'll go for Jesus Manzano like Dr Juice said.
Manzano said Fuentes would tell him he would be either "barking like a dog" or "mooing like a cow" in the bunch that day depending on what animal he'd used to soup up his engine.Jeez,that's heavy,as if the pressures of the race wouldn't be bad enough without wondering what animal you would be imitating later.
hilarious.DFA123 said:Animal blood injections aren't even considered doping in many sports.
not Jamie Burrow. best ever climber from the UK, best ever grimpeur SkyProCycling never had. They destroyed him. Plateau de Beille record holder.Dr. Juice said:I wondered about which teams might have been dirtier than others. I knew Kelme was incredibly dirty and that's why Heras more or less stayed at the same level when he went to US Postal. A bit less stuff ( esp. dangerous stuff) at USP but a bit more efficiency due to good doctors who knew what you had to take and what not.
A lot of riders started climbing like angels when they signed for USP.
How about Saeco Savoldelli vs Discovery Savoldelli? I think Saeco was also maybe not one of the dirtiest but not that far behind. He seemed pretty consistent. It's a shame he was injured at T-Mobile. I wanted to see how he fared at that team.
Not that he was one of the dirtiest riders ( not even close) but I just wondered. I'd like to see comparisons between riders at different teams in order to have a clue about which team might fuel them up more.
Some belgian or french riders in the 90's were heavy into doping as well. Pot belge to celebrate a victory....Pascal Richard would inject himself sth into his penis just to be more resistant during sexual activity. Riders who had a substance for f#cking everything.