Dirty Teams

[euroking]

Who Are The Dirtiness Teams You Ever Known In The Peloton. Past or Present.

 

[Catwhoorg]

USPS of course

It must be true it was in the reasoned decision.

 

[Netserk]

All know that blue is the colour of full genius.

 

[Benotti69]

Who Are The Dirtiness Teams You Ever Known In The Peloton. Past or Present.

I guess it would be a close run thing with any teams competing for the title of 'Dirtiest Team Ever Known', but one could hazard a guess towards East German, USSR and the likes.

 

[nevada]

I always enjoy watching Gewiss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3rZphEtzSM

 

[thehog]

I always enjoy watching Gewiss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3rZphEtzSM

Who put the Instagram filter on a video of Sky?

 

[blackcat]

USPS ONCE Deutsche Telekom


'nuff said

/close thread

 

[D-Queued]

USPS ONCE Deutsche Telekom


'nuff said

/close thread

Agreed, but you need to throw in a little Festina - just because. And Liberty Seguros - just because. And, if you have ONCE, then add a touch of Kelme. And, as noted above, Gewiss really demonstrated what a team program can do for team results.

Then don't forget the ongoing saga of Astana... in just about every form.

Now, did we leave anyone out?

Dave.

 

[nevada]

Who put the Instagram filter on a video of Sky?

Hahahha, that thought occurred to me when I watched it.

 

[May0maniac]

I always enjoy watching Gewiss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3rZphEtzSM

Yes, their whole season was totally ridiculous, another great example would be Berzin in the flat Giro ITT on stage 8, he destroyed everyone.

 

[blackcat]

Agreed, but you need to throw in a little Festina - just because. And Liberty Seguros - just because. And, if you have ONCE, then add a touch of Kelme. And, as noted above, Gewiss really demonstrated what a team program can do for team results.

Then don't forget the ongoing saga of Astana... in just about every form.

Now, did we leave anyone out?

Dave.

Kelme. shur, but Liberty Seguros were just a new sponsor cloaking the corpereal of ONCE

Festina? dont think they make it to the threshold of "dirtiest ever" just like Cofidis. Without a Ferrari or a Cecchini or some phd at Freiburg uni, they lack one or two inputs. They needed the best Lienders of their day, or Ferrari or Ceccho.

Why Kelme then? Well, Kelme were a walking talking and riding medical experiment who payed no heed to their athletes' lives. like Jesus Manzano. P'raps they were all Opus Dei and prayed to Jesus with their own schema daVinci Code and Dan freekin Brown.

i am nothing if i aint rigorous in my analysis of doping contexts

 

[bobbins]

Gatorade in the 90s.
Ariostea
The US national team at the 1984 Olympics
Most East European teams
Gewiss
CSC
Once
Kelme
USPS / Disco / Astana / Radioshack
Astana v2.0
Sky
Saunier Duval
Cofidis
Le Groupment

 

[blackcat]

I forgot CSC. I remember Bjarne flying down to Barca with Frank Shleck to book in to Fuentes gynecological services to get blood withdrawn for his pending pregnancy just in case he was hemorrhaging during birth

 

[bobbins]

Almost forgot Carrera!

 

[BVB6BVB]

From 88 to 91: PDM

 

[sniper]

Rabo-Liv

how they intimidated that poor Italian(?) girl in last years Giro d'Italia, that was pretty dirty.

 

[May0maniac]

Rabo-Liv

how they intimidated that poor Italian(?) girl in last years Giro d'Italia, that was pretty dirty.

This, they are disgusting scumbags!

 

[gillan1969]

once..Neil Stephens the original donkey to racehorse..well along with Rue....

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Telekom, the dirtiest for me.
But large group just behind.

 

[hrotha]

Casino 1997-1998.

 

[pugdog]

La Vie Claire

 

[burning]

I am suprised that no one mentioned LA-MSS

 

[D-Queued]

Okay, now that we have indicted the vast majority of the pro peloton, to no surprise, how about dirtiest Continental teams?

Saturn?
Chevy-LASheriff?

(always my personal favorite 'cuz they were sponsored by law and order)

Dave.

 

[Bronstein]

Tabriz Petrochemical Team.

 

[D-Queued]

...

Why Kelme then? Well, Kelme were a walking talking and riding medical experiment who payed no heed to their athletes' lives. like Jesus Manzano. P'raps they were all Opus Dei and prayed to Jesus with their own schema daVinci Code and Dan freekin Brown.

i am nothing if i aint rigorous in my analysis of doping contexts

Your rigor is applauded.

Why Kelme?

One word: Fuentes.

Fuentes - ONCE, Amaya, Kelme.

And, why Liberty Seguros?

One word: Saiz.

The most notorious teams would be those led by the most notorious managers and doctors.

Festina gets the acknowledgement because the opened the world's eyes to team supported sophisticated doping practices leading to the creation of WADA, even if they were relative amateurs at it.

Gatorade in the 90s.
Ariostea
The US national team at the 1984 Olympics
Most East European teams
Gewiss
CSC
Once
Kelme
USPS / Disco / Astana / Radioshack
Astana v2.0
Sky
Saunier Duval
Cofidis
Le Groupment

Don't forget Astana started with Manolo Saiz as the final re-branding of ONCE. Vino is really running Astana v3.0.

Dave.