Do You Care If Your Favourite Cyclist Is a "Nice Person"??

[Swifty's Cakes]

You clearly do not understand sarcasm but that's alright. I don't think he would need someone like you as a friend. Even though Cadel received bad press from that comment he still made a joke about it by selling t-shirts with that comment printed on the front. The money went t.o charity.

*shakles head* I know you jump to Evans' defence when he is being slagged off, I'm a bit surprised you would defend him when he is being praised, or did you miss the bit where I said I liked him more?

 

[auscyclefan94]

*shakles head* I know you jump to Evans' defence when he is being slagged off, I'm a bit surprised you would defend him when he is being praised, or did you miss the bit where I said I liked him more?

No. I found it unusual that you made such a comment. Those two riders were widely criticised for those actions and you make it out that those actions are their character.Your comment makes it seem like it is a normal thing that they say or do and really mean.

 

[hrotha]

He is a jerk.

He's not, he's well-mannered, polite and unassuming. Being a huge, cynical liar may make you a bad person, but not a jerk.

 

[LaFlorecita]

He's not, he's well-mannered, polite and unassuming. Being a huge, cynical liar may make you a bad person, but not a jerk.

If you had left out that last sentence this would've been a great post.

 

[hrotha]

If you had left out that last sentence this would've been a great post.

Yes, but it wouldn't have been so true.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Yes, but it wouldn't have been so true.

You have a point there... But only for people who believe Alberto's a liar and I don't believe that so there.

 

[Spine Concept]

If you had left out that last sentence this would've been a great post.

I like Contador a lot, both as a person and as a stage racer. However, you have to consider the possibility that he is lying. I know the facts are not decisive enough to be completely sure of his guilt, but it wasn't plucked out of thin air either. I, of course, hope he is truthful and choose to believe him because of his personality and demeanor, especially throughout this ordeal. However, you cannot expect everyone to be so sympathetic towards him. In that regard there's nothing wrong with the way hrotha put it.

 

[hrotha]

You have a point there... But only for people who believe Alberto's a liar and I don't believe that so there.

His being a liar is well established even leaving aside the clen case, though.

"Oh I didn't see Andy, who was right in front of me. Look how sorry I am in this video"
"Yes I'm staying with Astana, it's almost done, no problem"
"Of course Manolo, Riis, Bruyneel and others are anti-doping paladins, that's why I chose them"

 

[AussieGoddess]

yeah actually I do like to see my favourite riders act with class and sportsmanship.

I think that elite sports men and women are role models and have a responsibility to act and speak with integrity.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I like Contador a lot, both as a person and as a stage racer. However, you have to consider the possibility that he is lying. I know the facts are not decisive enough to be completely sure of his guilt, but it wasn't plucked out of thin air either. I, of course, hope he is truthful and choose to believe him because of his personality and demeanor, especially throughout this ordeal. However, you cannot expect everyone to be so sympathetic towards him. In that regard there's nothing wrong with the way hrotha put it.

There is something wrong with how he put it. None of us can know for sure whether or not he's lying but hrotha is putting is as if it's certain.

 

[theyoungest]

What's a nice person? I don't actually know any of the cyclists I like, so I guess I don't care. Coming across as a ******bag in the media doesn't mean much. I can even enjoy Andy Schleck's class on the bike (although displayed very rarely), but I've literally never heard him say anything sensible in the media.

 

[LaFlorecita]

His being a liar is well established even leaving aside the clen case, though.

"Oh I didn't see Andy, who was right in front of me. Look how sorry I am in this video"

Do you know why he said that? Because he doesn't want people TO HATE HIM. If he had just said "Yes, I saw it, but I didn't wait because I didn't think I should have." then everyone would be whining about how unsportsmanlike he is, so he said he didn't see it instead.

Also, you do know that video was Riis's idea, right?

"Yes I'm staying with Astana, it's almost done, no problem"

Ye, he did say that. But it's not lying. There were still things they had to agree about, and apparently they didn't in the end.

"Of course Manolo, Riis, Bruyneel and others are anti-doping paladins, that's why I chose them"

Do you have a link? I can't remember he said that.



Everybody lies. You do, I do, everyone does. But should I call you, myself, and everybody liars then?

Alberto isn't a bad person. You can tell me otherwise, go ahead, but I'm not going to agree with you anyway.

 

[boomcie]

@LaFlorecita
You are quickly becoming one of the most ridiculous people on this forum. Your Alberto love is silly beyond compare .

Please reread your posts every now and then, because they're so full of **** and it's not even funny.

 

[boomcie]

Do you know why he said that? Because he doesn't want people TO HATE HIM. If he had just said "Yes, I saw it, but I didn't wait because I didn't think I should have." then everyone would be whining about how unsportsmanlike he is, so he said he didn't see it instead.

Yes... But following your logic, doesn't that make him a liar ánd unsportsmanlike now?

 

[Winterfold]

1) what is 'nice'?

2) how do you know without meeting them?

All I know is that every time Valverde wins, a kitten dies. He may be a perfectly decent bloke, but that is the way it is.

 

[LaFlorecita]

@LaFlorecita
You are quickly becoming one of the most ridiculous people on this forum. Your Alberto love is silly beyond compare .

Please reread your posts every now and then, because they're so full of **** and it's not even funny.

My posts are not meant to be funny. They're meant to be genuine.

Also, I don't care that you think I'm ridiculous. That's just your opinion.

 

[Swifty's Cakes]

No. I found it unusual that you made such a comment. Those two riders were widely criticised for those actions and you make it out that those actions are their character.Your comment makes it seem like it is a normal thing that they say or do and really mean.

How? I said when they do these things, not that they frequently do these things. You sure you aren't reading between the lines something that isn't written down?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Yes... But following your logic, doesn't that make him a liar ánd unsportsmanlike now?

That depends. I haven't said I agree with it.

1) I don't think what he did was unsportsmanlike.
2) I don't believe telling one lie makes you a liar. We'd all be liars.

 

[Christian]

You know what they say ... nice guys finish last. Nice or not nice is difficult to say though as some have pointed out, I don't actually know any cyclists so I try not to judge them on their personalities (or what might come across as their personality in the media).

I like riders I can relate to. That's why I always prefered Ullrich to Armstrong, it was like human vs. machine. I am sure though if you are invited to Lance's ranch he is an awesome host and you'll have a great BBQ with some nice cold Coors Light. That's one of the reasons (national bias aside) why I prefer Andy to Contador - I'm lazy, show up to work hung over and say stupid stuff. Contador is perfection in every way, which is great but also incredibly boring. I respect and acknowledge perfection when I see it but it bores me and I do not aspire to reach it. Same reason I had no interest in Gilbert last season. Cancellara getting beaten on the other hand made him seem flawed, thus human. Same reason I have no interest whatsoever in Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern München. I have heard a saying "The French like losers" (was it maybe even Armstrong himself who said it?) and there's probably something to it. Coming from my corner of the world I suppose you must get used to losing in sports otherwise it's gonna be tough. My favourite Lance was the post-comeback one and the moment Berto was most interesting to me was when they worked him over in Paris Nice '09.

All I know is that every time Valverde wins, a kitten dies. He may be a perfectly decent bloke, but that is the way it is.

THANK YOU finally someone who has the guts to say it

 

[richtea]

If he had just said "Yes, I saw it, but I didn't wait because I didn't think I should have."

How I wish he had said that...

 

[woodenswan]

My two favorite riders, male and female:

So yeah, I guess I care.

cracked me up

god i love it when Evans loses it. headbutting cameras, cutting folk's heads off (Aus94: don't! i know he's still a nice person. but dont u love those incidents? i mean they clearly show his good old aussie passion, dont they?)

 

[LaFlorecita]

How I wish he had said that...

But he didn't and I understand him. He obviously cares about what other people think of him. That's another thing that makes him a nice person.

 

[boomcie]

But he didn't and I understand him. He obviously cares about what other people think of him. That's another thing that makes him a nice person.

Euhm no... What an incredibly misguided remark.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Euhm no... What an incredibly misguided remark.

What the ****?

MY OPINION.

 

[Christian]

Damn Florecity gotta warn you next time you get an e-mail from a Nigerian prince asking for money ... he might want to seem nice but I don't think he is!!!