Sorry, when I said "ignorance", I wasn't accusing you of it - I was suggesting that widespread ignorance of PEDs is a lot of the reason that fans of mainstream sports aren't as active about it. Agree that athletes shouldn't be held up as heroes.
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Caruut said:Sorry, when I said "ignorance", I wasn't accusing you of it - I was suggesting that widespread ignorance of PEDs is a lot of the reason that fans of mainstream sports aren't as active about it. Agree that athletes shouldn't be held up as heroes.
nighttrain said:Bravo, rhubramo. Well said.
blutto said:...yeah on first blush it is quite good...however a sober second opinion by someone skilled in the arts, such as an academic for instance, would yield a bit of a different response....
...that response would for instance, would question the use of the word simple in the analysis...because absolutely nothing in the building of the social construction of reality, which is what this is ultimately about, is simple...simple belongs in headlines and is a staple of drive-by analysis...then the response may turn to the word masses, a word that seems full of meaning but upon close scrutiny means virtually nothing....and then to tar a mass of people as simply stupid or cynical, puuuleeeeze, yeah like that's worthy of praise...as someone in Alice in Wonderland pointed out, words can be slippery ******s and you have to sometimes be very careful when you use them...
...and the other issue here is this style of answer also speaks to the way many of the threads in the clinic, especially those about LA, are couched...its all simple, good vs evil, no nuance, no contextual analysis...LA and his story is complex and unravelling the various threads that tie it together is the best way to not only understand the story but to make sure it is less likely to happen again...frankly the simple approach is like fast food, it fills the stomach but it is not the best solution for the problem it is supposed to solve...
....and last, but certainly not least...why do Romans have blond curly hair?...and no, the answer isn't simple, but it is relevant...
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blutto
the numbers were irrelevant. It was a metaphor, and I needed to disabuse folks taking the lb'age literally.nighttrain said:Er...maybe a HS TE but the avg NFL Tight End is 6'4+, 260lbs+, and can run a 40 in sub 4.8 secs while crushing an unsuspecting linebacker with a block. intriguing comparison, though. Why do we (cycling enthusiasts) give at rats **** about PEDS while, globally, fans of pro football/soccer, tennis, hockey, basketball, boxing, baseball, American Football, and Mixed Martial Arts could care less. Those fans just want a good show. I sincerely don't know the answer but lost interest in cycling performances after understanding almost all were PED influenced.
blutto said:...you have got to be kidding...or do you have no clue about triathlons and the type of physiology that generally does well in that leisure activity...
...I could understand the need to stick to an agenda but for the sake of your own credibility try to keep it somewhat reasonable...
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blutto
blutto said:...does anyone have any idea if drugs play a big role in turning donkeys into racehorses in this major league sport...
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/stor...ting-contest-kicks-off-on-coney-island-070412
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blutto
blackcat said:the numbers were irrelevant. It was a metaphor, and I needed to disabuse folks taking the lb'age literally.
how about the climbs up the mtns in the offseason in the snow, for the LA dvds. Reckon those things werent pure mythology?blutto said:...turgid eh...well in good clear light most would see it as eloquent...
...and Bernays?...come on ...if anything, that is classic cheap Bruce Barton schtick...
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blutto
blackcat said:how about the climbs up the mtns in the offseason in the snow, for the LA dvds. Reckon those things werent pure mythology?