Don't forget the dead guys

[mountainrman]

This is a great article, worth reading - the hidden cost of doping.

A lot of it old news, but still a reminder that there is more than cheating to win at stake.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/39997062/

 

[jam pants]

This is considered deflection?

Not a very strong attempt on your part.

 

[simo1733]

When I see what became VDB and Pantani, then Lance is getting off lightly.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

When I see what became VDB and Pantani, then Lance is getting off lightly.

Indeed. That Pantani was hounded to his death, while Armstrong was protected is perhaps the darkest stain on the sport.

 

[blackcat]

nobodies like Salanson have equal worth

 

[mountainrman]

An interesting question is how many blood infections there have been from reinfused blood.

The only two I know of are:
Ricco - almost killed him.
Hamilton - owned up to at least one "bad trip" in his book.

I wonder if it is a lot more prevalent, but largely concealed, so long as they don't actually die in the process.

 

[blackcat]

did not know Hamilton liked LSD

 

[mountainrman]

did not know Hamilton liked LSD

You know what I mean! - He clearly had at least one bad incident from reinfusing bad blood. Wondered if there were any more other than Ricco documented?

 

[reginagold]

Lance was pretty sick all of a sudden in the TT where Ulrich beat him by two minutes.... "forgot to drink"

 

[zigmeister]

Do we have the actual autopsies and causes of death? Or is this just more conjecture and hearsay like half the crap in the clinic?

This is along the same lines of the Robert Millar article. Claiming 50% hemotacrit levels will kill you and the UCI is lucky there aren't bodies everywhere.

Ridiculous assertions without medical evidence to support the claims.

 

[stainlessguy1]

This is a great article, worth reading - the hidden cost of doping.

A lot of it old news, but still a reminder that there is more than cheating to win at stake.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/39997062/

Good read , and thanks for sharing the article .
For those who still think that it comes without consequences , think again .
For those parents with up and comming kids , and at the same time i see you handing out bottles of red bull before hockey games at the minor level . Think again , think of what it leads to . I hope you love your children too .

 

[arjanh]

An interesting question is how many blood infections there have been from reinfused blood.

The only two I know of are:
Ricco - almost killed him.
Hamilton - owned up to at least one "bad trip" in his book.

I wonder if it is a lot more prevalent, but largely concealed, so long as they don't actually die in the process.

Ullrich might have had one in one of the mountain stages. He had a horrible day, and I've heard him attribute that to food poisoning, but after reading Hamilton's book, I think his BB had gone bad.

Don't remember which stage and what year it was, will try to find out.

 

[ElChingon]

So where were the rest of the forgotten? I only saw two listed

The problem is that those who have died can't just look forward and forget the past, they only have the past.

 

[arjanh]

So where were the rest of the forgotten? I only saw two listed

The problem is that those who have died can't just look forward and forget the past, they only have the past.

If you mean in that article, only one, as Johannes Draaijer died in 1990.

The one who was a patient in a psychiatric hospital is most likely Michel Zanoli, who died at age 35 on December 29, 2003.

Denis Zanette died at the dentist on January 10, 2003, aged 32.

Kenny Vanstreels died at the start of a race on March 2, 2003, aged 19.