Doping Hotline

[D-Queued]

Holy balls, that letter - McQuack starts like a bench bully: See what the strong boys said? Get the message! Clean now! And btw, you can call us, and if you're lucky, you may to win a couple of extra surprise early morning visits.

"You will have seen in recent media reports that Philippe Gilbert, Mark Cavendish and Bradley Wiggins among many others have been strong voices in telling the world that today’s cycling is cleaner than ever before."

Btw., the answering machine should start with "if you want to tell on Wiggo, you're f***ing w***er!"

Dave.

 

[Hugh Januss]

It is not how stupid they think their fans are. They are patting themselves on the back for what they consider brilliance. Who knew that you could use this thing they call the telephone? I hear that it now has a dial pad.

BTW - I have just reported this post since you called me a kindergarten child.

Dave.

So you think being called young is insulting......ageist!

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

"You will have seen in recent media reports that Philippe Gilbert, Mark Cavendish and Bradley Wiggins among many others have been strong voices in telling the world that today’s cycling is cleaner than ever before."

Translates as:

These three have paid their 'donations' to us and won't be getting popped anytime soon.

They got the memo - so ****ing shape up and remember your talking points. Kittel I'm looking at you.

Why do all of McQuaid's emails read like he was half cut when he was writing them

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Toto's take manages to hit the spot.

 

[Master50]

Shouldn't it be widely advertised and readily accessible?

Like right on the home page, possibly under QUICK ACCESS?

Nope.

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Just another Pat/Hein charade.

Dave.

If you read the story you would see it is not set up yet.
First good idea the UCI has had for a while and we respond like a bunch of 10 year olds. Are there any adults in the Clinic and why are more than 1/2 of all post under the clinic? No matter the subject is unrelated it staerts in the clinic or becomes a clinic discussion.
Frankly I think that this forum section should be more closely monitored for actual Clinic subjects.
Maybe a doping hot line is a clinic subject but why does every post about the UCI or the president of the UCI past and current go under the clinic?

Crimestoppers for dopers

 

[coinneach]

Only3 pages of predictable humour and distrust, so far.

So that make's me the first poster to say I think its a good idea!

I know in Child Protection, lots of social workers were dead against "hotlines" when they first came out. But in time, most came to see the value of them, and they certainly have helped cement the attitude that "the child's voice should be heard"

Most of you guys were lambasting the fact that Lance could phone up Frank and suddenly a competitor is busted. Now, we've got a more even playing field.
And the knowledge of that number can isolate cheats as well.

My opinion anyway!

 

[D-Queued]

If you read the story you would see it is not set up yet.
First good idea the UCI has had for a while and we respond like a bunch of 10 year olds. Are there any adults in the Clinic and why are more than 1/2 of all post under the clinic? No matter the subject is unrelated it staerts in the clinic or becomes a clinic discussion.
Frankly I think that this forum section should be more closely monitored for actual Clinic subjects.
Maybe a doping hot line is a clinic subject but why does every post about the UCI or the president of the UCI past and current go under the clinic?

Crimestoppers for dopers

I did.

I still found it odd that the letter couldn't even be indexed by the UCI search.

No surprise.

I completely disagree that the doping hot line is a good idea. It is fundamentally flawed. No, that is wrong. To say that it is completely stupid only scratches the surface on how ill conceived and obviously contrived it is.

This is the same crew that just called the last whistleblowers "scumbags". By their own example, and a very recent one at that, they are the last organization that should be trusted with this type of communication.

P.S. I cannot comment on why all matters related to the UCI are doping specific, or that the Forum requires they be discussed in the Clinic. Other than to observe that UCI = doping, of course.

Dave.

 

[skippy]

Being an Irish born Aussie , i can take pride in the efforts of Paul K. and David W. , but it is beyond me that phat can believe that anyone would phone him . It appears he has slipped into the trance of bewilderment , clearly he needs a long holiday . Time we started a fund for his retirement , guessing that the old , old joke " Give us a sixpence , guv , for my journey ? Here , take a quid , and take a bunch of your mates with you !" is no longer PC !

Seriously phat must be seriously upset that he no longer gets to put his sticker on bike frames , bike parts and collecting brown paper bags ?

Seems to me if the 19th century idea of a " hotline " becomes available , the only people using it will do so on the 1st April ! By then he will be aware that the Irish no longer want to elect him!

 

[The Gnome]

"Hi, I would like to order some Epo..."

 

[D-Queued]

"Hi, I would like to order some Epo..."

...and can you tell me how much to inject, and when, so that I don't test positive?

Also, what is the current Sysmex fee, or is this advice free if you use the hotline?

Ta!

Dave.

 

[hfer07]

Hilarious how Pat & co are that clever to find ways to "tax" the Pro-Teams with useless programs while pretending to improve anti-doping policies....

damn- with all the doping clean up happening, I'd like to know who's in charge of the phone bill.......

 

[Racelap]

867-5309. Ask for Jenny.

 

[howsteepisit]

I did.

I still found it odd that the letter couldn't even be indexed by the UCI search.

No surprise.

I completely disagree that the doping hot line is a good idea. It is fundamentally flawed. No, that is wrong. To say that it is completely stupid only scratches the surface on how ill conceived and obviously contrived it is.


Dave.

Pretty well summed up. I cannot believe the naivety of UCI in thinking that the lack of a "hotline" was in any way detrimental to anti-dopng efforts. I have yet to see any of the confessions, and I read all the the ASADA document, where the riders said, 'I did not want to dope, but there was not anyway to contact the UCI and have them do something about the team doping. And its even stupider for individual doping. Do they really think that a rider would cal them up and ask if EPO is against the rules, then say well, know that I know that I will not be taking that! Good God, can Pat really be this dumb? And, to further make things sound bad, notice that he writes

" I have decided that, during the first quarter of 2013, the UCI will set in motion a wide-ranging consultation exercise involving all cycling’s stakeholders to tackle issues of concern within the sport and work together to build a bright future for cycling"

So when its the new hotline - its UCI has decided, but for sitting around talking about things, Pat has decided. Makes me think that he was ordered to set up the hotline and does not have any faith whatsoever it will have the desired effect.

And as the last of the idiotic things in Pat's letter - "the UCI did act on information provided in the past and it will always do so in the future, within the bounds of what is legally feasible." For example, when questions about the impartiality of UCI have arisen, we sued the pants off anyone who dares to question us!

What a tool. You would think that a international body governing a major sport could do better.

 

[BigBoat]

but it is beyond me that phat can believe that anyone would phone him . It appears he has slipped into the trance of bewilderment , clearly he needs a long holiday . Time we started a fund for his retirement , guessing that the old , old joke " Give us a sixpence , guv , for my journey ? Here , take a quid , and take a bunch of your mates with you !" is no longer PC !

Seriously phat must be seriously upset that he no longer gets to put his sticker on bike frames , bike parts and collecting brown paper bags ?

Seems to me if the 19th century idea of a " hotline " becomes available , the only people using it will do so on the 1st April ! By then he will be aware that the Irish no longer want to elect him!

Its purely a PR campaign . Of course he doesn't believe in the hotline.

 

[D-Queued]

Its a PR campaign to try and cover their butts. Of course he doesn't believe in the hotline.

Just wait until they start releasing statistics.

Phat and Nein will call in themselves using a blocked cell number (if they have more brains than Will Geoghegan, that is), they will place a towel over the mic, and claim that they have been able to stop doping thanks to the hotline.

Just wait.

Dave.

 

[Velodude]

"This is the UCI Anti-Doping Hotline. Your call may be recorded for training and quality control purposes only"

"To proceed press 1."

"If you object to the call being recorded then press 2 and a conference call will be arranged with a court trained shorthand reporter in attendance."

"Alternative 3. Hang up."

 

[D-Queued]

"This is the UCI Anti-Doping Hotline. Your call may be recorded for training and quality control purposes only"

"To proceed press 1."

"If you object to the call being recorded then press 2 and a conference call will be arranged with a court trained shorthand reporter in attendance."

"Alternative 3. Hang up."

"This is the UCI Anti-Doping Hotline. Please provide your credit card number at the tone."

Dave.

 

[shawnrohrbach]

"Hello, anti doping hot line"
"Hey, I know two guys who are doping"
"Who is the first?"
"(Whisper whisper)"
" Wow, big time rider. Nah, he would never never never ever dope. Who's the other?"
"(Whisper whisper)"
"Who is he? Never heard of him. Is he new this year"
"Yes."
"Good we have one. His career is over. Thank you for being so honest and forthcoming."

 

[Tinman]

"You will have seen in recent media reports that Philippe Gilbert, Mark Cavendish and Bradley Wiggins among many others have been strong voices in telling the world that today’s cycling is cleaner than ever before."

Review the 30 seconds after Gilbert comes across the line at the recent Worlds, then correlate that with what Tyler wrote in The Secret Race on page 182. "did you ever look at the face of a rider who won a big race..."

Then think about what it would have meant for UCI to declare the winner (let alone Gilbert) positive. Impossible.

So guess what, we have our 3 UCI clean poster boys now. Unlikely to be busted in 2013. Expect another great classics season for Gilbert. Outcome for Cav and Wiggo not so clear as winning for them is less of an individual effort, more team involved.

 

[D-Queued]

This just in from Frankie:

"...Speaking after the UCI's hotline initaitve was launched, Andreu said, "I think it's a sh!t idea. It's something they're putting out there but I don't know who thought of it. Who is going call up because unless you're talking about yourself then you're just raising suspicion on other people. It's not like the UCI have a police force that are going to investigate all these tips."
...
"When I came forward they criticised me."

Well there you have it.

Dave.

 

[howsteepisit]

Hey here a great idea, maybe they could allow a special super secret https web page for pro riders to email in doping questions!

 

[orangerider]

They're already hiring for the US call center?

Saw it on Craigslist:

Experienced Telemarketer. Minimum 5 years of direct sales experience; ability to handle high stress situations; demonstrated ability to upsell; background in counseling/mental health a plus; some knowledge of cycling; in-depth knowledge of Lance Armstrong;

Candidates will be receiving a phone interview to demonstrate their level of skill and a proficiency test on advanced Lance Armstrong topics.

Compensation: Minimum wage, plus 20% commissions on selling various promotional material related to Lance Armstrong and the intake of fundraising dollars.

 

[Boeing]

I'd love to get hold of this number.

That the line Lance called to out his competition

 

[BroDeal]

Here it is, the UCI's state of the art, no expense spared doping hotline. The hardware was contracted out to the lowest bidder, who just happened to be related to McQuaid. It is installed in McQuaid's lawyers' office so whistleblowers can be sued without Fat Pat having to waddle across the street to order the lawyers to initiate legal proceedings.

 

[skidmark]

I just hope they make the number public so that the clinic can call in and report everybody.

Seriously though, how do they give out the number and who gets it? I, at least, want to call it every day to report that Rasmussen and Landis and Ricco doped.