Doping in other sports?

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http://www.dopinglist.com/?action=news&news=article&id=316

The subscription site dopinglist.com has made some statistics after registering doping cases since 2005.

Countries
1: India 513
2: Russian Federation 496
3: United States 433
4: Italy 292
5: Czech Republic 269
6: France 235
7: Australia 193
8: United Kingdom 153
9: South Africa 117
10: Brazil 116

Czech Republic in fifth place was surprising to me.

130 athletes has been given a lifetime suspension.

130 life bans in ten years. Armstrong really isn't that uniiqe.
 
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The Hitch said:
I'd be surprised if anyone on that list was clean.

Yes including Korzeniowski. Loved him growing up but those records in that sport are unrealistic.

Only track cycling was clean in the 2004 olympics:rolleyes:
Korzeniowski was coach and mentor of Paquillo Fernandez who set a 10km world record in 2008 but was banned for two years for possesion of PEDs in 2010.
 
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The Hitch said:
I'd be surprised if anyone on that list was clean.

Yes including Korzeniowski. Loved him growing up but those records in that sport are unrealistic.

Only track cycling was clean in the 2004 olympics:rolleyes:

IAAF Hall of Fame, better known as IAAF Hall of those who got away with it.

Don't know if no doping really is a criteria for this Hall of theirs, it certainly isn't for their Athlete of the year longlist.
 
neineinei said:
http://www.dopinglist.com/?action=news&news=article&id=316
The subscription site dopinglist.com has made some statistics after registering doping cases since 2005.

Czech Republic in fifth place was surprising to me.

130 life bans in ten years. Armstrong really isn't that uniiqe.

That only illustrates the effort and determination of Czech anti-doping authorities to catch and punish the doping cheaters. Indeed, when was the last time they let someone off the hook?
Oh, wait...
 
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TomasC said:
That only illustrates the effort and determination of Czech anti-doping authorities to catch and punish the doping cheaters. Indeed, when was the last time they let someone off the hook?
Oh, wait...

I was surprised because I don't hear much of those bans. Who are they? I'm reading UCI's and IAAF's list of sanctioned athletes, they aren't there. They aren't turning up in drows on Wikipedia either.
Who are they? Unknown weightlifters etc?
 
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neineinei said:
I was surprised because I don't hear much of those bans. Who are they? I'm reading UCI's and IAAF's list of sanctioned athletes, they aren't there. They aren't turning up in drows on Wikipedia either.
Who are they? Unknown weightlifters etc?
valid questions.
Czech Republic have no more than 10 million inhabitants.
On that list they are beating some much bigger countries.
 
neineinei said:
I was surprised because I don't hear much of those bans. Who are they? I'm reading UCI's and IAAF's list of sanctioned athletes, they aren't there. They aren't turning up in drows on Wikipedia either.
Who are they? Unknown weightlifters etc?

It's a mystery, they don't appear in local media either. Maybe a handful in the last couple of years.
Some kind of statistical error more likely than anything.
 
Outside the Lines reported today that the DEA visited several NFL teams during the games to check on legality of pain killer administration. This as a result of complaints from former players. I'm sure they wouldn't stop there.
Interesting turn of events as the NFLPA and NFL deal with HGH testing.
 
I was watching the WC women's weightlifting for a few minutes on Dutch eurosport. The commentator was the funniest I ever heard, when he was talking about Tatiana Kashirina. For the record, she's the current European and world champion and broke (her own) snatch world record twice during the Worlds. She was caught doping at age 15 :)o) and was suspended for 2 years, until 2008.

Some quotes from the commentator: "She's absolutely clean now because the controls are very strict" and that "she proves doping doesn't necessarily enhance performances in weightlifting".

I didn't realize there are people who are THAT ignorant :eek:
 
Oldman said:
Outside the Lines reported today that the DEA visited several NFL teams during the games to check on legality of pain killer administration. This as a result of complaints from former players. I'm sure they wouldn't stop there.
Interesting turn of events as the NFLPA and NFL deal with HGH testing.

BBC article on the visits.
Seahwaks, 49ers and Buccs were all inspected, and all whilst they were on the road. That last bit is interesting, much harder to hide things when traveling I would say.

Mainly seems to be documentation checks.
 
I've been saying for a while that the higher injury rates in the NFL (due partly to better detection) are also due to players being hit harder than ever before. The players have an interest in making sure the guy whose job it is to knock you down isn't being powered by HGH, testosterone and painkillers.

Hopefully the former player's interest in their own current well being will bring more light to what happens on the teams.
 
elduggo said:
Decent article in today's Irish Times about doping in Kenyan athletics.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/oth...oping-hanging-over-kenyan-athletics-1.1996620

Excellent article !

Gotta wonder why this rings a bell with me .... ;)

Yet Kenya’s doping problem appears more rooted within the country, particularly the doctors and pharmacists open to administering doping products, for even modest under-the-table payments, and writing them off as medical treatments (malaria apparently the most popular one). There are also plenty of foreign agents and coaches on the scene...


So Kenyan Doctors can sometimes be administering doping under the guise of treating tropical diseases .... imagine that ?
 
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keeponrollin said:
So Kenyan Doctors can sometimes be administering doping under the guise of treating tropical diseases .... imagine that ?

Quoted for relevance. :cool:

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keeponrollin said:
Excellent article !

Gotta wonder why this rings a bell with me .... ;)




So Kenyan Doctors can sometimes be administering doping under the guise of treating tropical diseases .... imagine that ?
this is why the Clinic is great.

Actually a clearing house to sort thru the chaff and bs about bilharzia
 
Basecase said:

Thanks for that link. Interesting comment from a former Member of French team:
"Drugs had been part of rugby from the first day he had played the game . . . he just hadn't seen it. "One of the interesting things about your brain is that you will refuse to see something obvious - even if it's in front of you - if you decide to," he says. "I created a world where I didn't have to think about it, because once you think about it, it's the end of the dream, or the beginning of the nightmare. I was never confronted with it and was able to protect myself by not thinking about it. I never had to answer the question, I could move around it."