Doping in other sports?

[mikehammer67]

she prob was
look who she beat in 1500 final at 34
and dramatic improvement in form

 

[Tinman]

Richard Hinds from the Sydney Morning Herald was one of the first journos to go hard on the breaking Lance story some months ago on the eve of the USADA report publication.

He has now stuck his neck out on doping in the real aussie game of Rugby League where drugs have been rampant for years. ASADA is running an investigation but getting major push back from the game's rednecks. Check out the comments to his latest article and experience some Lance fanboy deja vu.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ang-tackle-the-messenger-20130501-2isnj.html#

There is a long way to go with drugs in sports, in general still only at the denial stage...

 

[mikehammer67]

trouble is when they sweep out the old dopers out of a sport

a new set of dopers with more $$$ and sophistication moves in

deja vu all over again

 

[Armchaircyclist]

http://news.yahoo.com/iaaf-says-2-turkish-athletes-charged-doping-152805278.html
The Turkish gold medalist on 1500m Cakir Alptekin risks a lifetime ban after new doping allegations. The allegations are shockingly based on BIO-PASSPORT, maybe there is still hope of this tool's effectiveness ?

The turkish female runners were to me among the most suspicious athletes in the London Olympics. And now it is claimed that several of them have suspicious blood-values. What a surprise.

 

[hiero2]

One of the unfortunate things about all the doping bit is that we, the observers, are left with few ways to determine if someone is - or isn't. One of the methods that has developed is the "eye test". Which, when considering it, may seem pretty weak.

But, this article actually gives physical validation to the "eye test":http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mma--luke-rockhold-vitor-belfort-unnatural-physique-trt-use-231700682.html

Worth noting: the doper is openly doping, with TRT (testosterone replacement therapy). So he is openly jiggering his body's natural balance. The guy saying he "doesn't pass the eye test" is a competitor, therefore has some experience, and thus expertise in the subject.

Certainly not scientific, but when we don't have "scientific" methods available, expertise is the best we can hope for. Imo, this gives us some baseline validation for an "eye test", at least for steroid use. The photo that is with the article isn't the best - but the guy does obviously have a very low body fat percentage, which has been discussed in other threads. He's below the "normal" threshold.

 

[workingclasshero]

guy saying he "doesn't pass the eye test" is a competitor, therefore has some experience, and thus expertise in the subject.

not sure you'd have to be an expert to say Belfort is doping

 

[Cyivel]

Belfort fighting a lot in Brazil where he isn't stopped from using TRT whereas in the US he probably would be as commissions have said anybody who has failed a test for steroids in the past won't get a TRT exemption.

Although I guess we will see if that is followed through on the next time he fights in the US.

 

[mikehammer67]

Howman is also concerned about the lack of incentives to catch dopers observed in the international federations or the national anti-doping agencies, who are often reluctant to see major names caught up in a doping scandal.

"Nobody wants a controversy. You don't want your heroes testing positive," said the New Zealander.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/other-s...ada/story-e6frf56c-1226645759703#.UZojW70QDfL

 

[DirtyWorks]

...The allegations are shockingly based on BIO-PASSPORT, maybe there is still hope of this tool's effectiveness ?.

Hmmm. Timing is interesting as Istanbul is in-process for bidding on hosting an Olympic games.

Still, I believe the bio-passport, if the sports federations would stop blocking it, is very effective. Probably too effective.

Richard Pound makes the same claim: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...rug-cheats--****-Pound.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

 

[DirtyWorks]

Conte Meets with Pound

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/amateur/story/2007/12/12/conte-pound-meeting.html

There's more than one agenda going on there, that's for sure. Let's hope something better comes as a result.

Hey Victor, how about delivering the Jamaican doping suppliers?

 

[Briant_Gumble]

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/amateur/story/2007/12/12/conte-pound-meeting.html

There's more than one agenda going on there, that's for sure. Let's hope something better comes as a result.

Hey Victor, how about delivering the Jamaican doping suppliers?

I'm confused by you posting the article from 2007? I think it was intentional but the point seems to be over my head.

 

[mikehammer67]

David Walsh ‏@DavidWalshST 19h
Tennis and football continue to be lax on doping. This has to change. Horseracing must increase unannounced testing on back of this scandal.

hey what's that smell?

oh look !

over there

 

[Viking]

50 PED suspensions in the NFL since the start of 2010:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/100145/seahawks-lead-in-ped-bans-under-carroll

And the penalties for getting caught are even weaker than I thought:

First-time violators of the policy receive four-game suspensions. The penalty doubles for second-time violators. Third-time violators face suspensions of at least 12 months, subject to reinstatement at the commissioner's discretion.

 

[DirtyWorks]

I'm confused by you posting the article from 2007? I think it was intentional but the point seems to be over my head.

My mistake. Conte reposted his relations with Pound yesterday on the twittering feed and I just went from there assuming too much.

 

[GreasyMonkey]

Marta Dominguez.... again.....

http://elpais.com/elpais/2013/05/22/inenglish/1369238834_437784.html

The IAAF bio-passport experts group have flagged her as a blood-doper -
now why can't the UCI Bio-passport do the same.

Oh, sorry, no cyclists have doped since 2006

Spain has another chance to show it has some anti-doping credentials, time for the Spanish ADA chief, Ana Muñoz Merino to "walk the walk", time is over for the talk.

 

[neineinei]

Her comeback seems as ill advised as Armstrongs. If she'd retired after the Galgo scare and giving birth IAAF wouldn't have gotten her normal blood values, which made the values from 2009 look so wrong.

So now Real Federación Española de Atletismo, where Dominguez used to be vice president, is to decide if she will be banned?

 

[mikehammer67]

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/...oshida-gets-one-year-doping-ban/#.Uad1XdIQb64


japanese epo postive

 

[Freddythefrog]

Her comeback seems as ill advised as Armstrongs. If she'd retired after the Galgo scare and giving birth IAAF wouldn't have gotten her normal blood values, which made the values from 2009 look so wrong.

Brailsford and Hayles look on with a smile.

 

[mikehammer67]

Study: Kenyans Get Performance Boost From EPO
http://www.runnersworld.com/elite-runners/study-kenyans-get-performance-boost-from-epo

 

[zebedee]

Kenya as an EPO doping centre has been highlighted elsewhere on this forum. Entrepreneurial doctors there send out doped athletes to garner prize monies at marathon events run in first world countries, then take their cut.

At least one top ten ATP tennis player (Tipsarevic) has used Kenya as an off-season training base. From respectable but settled journeyman, he made a quality leap around end 2010/2011 to 8 or 9 in the rankings. I expect he'll start dropping again now his seasonal excursions have come to public notice.

 

[mikehammer67]

Wada has labelled Kenya as one of its global doping hot spots and a "location of choice" for would-be dopers, not just Kenyans but athletes from other countries too.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/kenya-told-to-crack-down-on-doping-8616422.html

 

[mikehammer67]

there was a famous british athlete used to travel to all these places lol
for " altitude stints "

albuquerque and kenya lol

 

[Bicycle]

"clean" Justin Gatlin is as fast as when he was doping. Does anyone seriously believe what they're watching?

 

[avanti]

Lindsey Vonn - Skiier

Lindsey Vonn, a tallented downhill skiier was subjected to a drug test Monday night in New York. She was attending a fashion show.
Shows that testing is occurring in sports other than cycling.

 

[SeriousSam]

British Olympic gold medallist Darren Campbell also criticised Gatlin following his victory.

He said: "It's very uncomfortable when you think Justin Gatlin has been caught for drugs twice and here he is beating the great Usain Bolt.

"That is why Usain Bolt has been so important for our sport. He has shown that what athletes do sometimes is super-human. We are watching people perform super-human things and we hate the fact when people have cheated to do that."

Yes, Usain Bolt shows us that super-human performances can be done totally clone.