Doping in other sports?

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si botak

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sniper said:
nice post, but didn't you get Jiri Dvorak's memo?
doping in soccer is not an issue.

"Of course there are individual cases, for sure. We do more than 30,000 sampling procedures every year and we have between 70 to 90 positive cases, most of them for marijuana and cocaine and we have also anabolic steroids, but these are individual cases."
http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...1005585_1_fifa-jiri-dvorak-confederations-cup
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hehe, you like the FIFA sense of humour too? :D

It's just as well we have FIFA to look after the interests of the game, always reassuring to know that there are only 'individual cases' and certainly not any cases when teams such as Juventus ran a systematic doping programme and were let off scot free despite getting caught running a systematic doping programme.

Imagine if other Champion teams such as Marseille had been doping their players too. But this never happened.

We know football is clean because the Spanish authorities were perfectly happy to let WADA see all of the records in Op Puerto because none of them could have possibly related to footballers.

We also know that no German players ever doped, even though a recent report just announced findings about doping in West Germany, but footballers don't dope, only cyclists and sprinters do. Nothing too see in football, move along now, show's over.

No top players such as Rio Ferdinand would ever so much as miss a drug test because they forgot about it and went shopping instead and their phone was turned off until it was too late to come back and take the test. That doesn't happen in football as it's 100% clean. Brits don't dope anyway, the Queen wouldn't approve.

Arsene Wenger was probably playing a practical joke when he talked about abnormal blood values. FIFA wouldn't stand for any immoral behaviour.

Yes, FIFA are correct, I mean no sport in history has had a serious doping problem yet returned so many negative drug tests. Doping in football is implausible.
 
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beckenbauer in german media now claiming that back in those days they never really knew what doping was...
"Man wusste damals gar nicht, was Doping überhaupt ist"
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but wait, didn't beckenbauer say this in 1977:

"Franz Beckenbauer berichtete 1977 im Stern über seine Eigenblut-Praktiken, die unbedenklich seien, verglichen mit dem, was sonst ablaufe: »Medizinisch ist heute in der Bundesliga praktisch noch alles erlaubt, was den Spieler zu Höchst- und Dauerleistung treibt. Es wird gespritzt und geschluckt … Natürlich wäre es unsinnig, vor jedem Spiel zu dopen. Der folgende Leistungsabfall ist viel zu groß. Aber was machen Trainer und Manager vor entscheidenden Spielen, etwa im Europacup, wo es um Millionen geht – wenn man glaubt, dass die anderen nicht nur Vitaminpillen schlucken?"
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http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/do...gar-nicht-was-doping-ueberhaupt-ist-1.1740903

soccer really is a lost cause.

edit: these last couple of posts should actually be in the soccer/football thread.
 
luckyboy

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I thought football/FIFA already did blood testing. wtf.


Oh, guess only a few federations do - UK, Italy, France, Portugal, Romania, China, Poland and Austria.
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/55/main/2013/08/03/4162579/wada-250-suspect-football-dope-tests

28,008 tests in the entirety of world football and only 831 were blood tests.



also,

‏@BBCSport 2m
The IAAF announces that athletes found to be doping will receive a four-year ban from 2015

Don't see why it takes over a year to implement this but good decision anyway.
 
TourOfSardinia

TourOfSardinia

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luckyboy said:
I thought football/FIFA already did blood testing. wtf.


Oh, guess only a few federations do - UK, Italy, France, Portugal, Romania, China, Poland and Austria.
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/55/main/2013/08/03/4162579/wada-250-suspect-football-dope-tests

28,008 tests in the entirety of world football and only 831 were blood tests.



also,

‏@BBCSport 2m
The IAAF announces that athletes found to be doping will receive a four-year ban from 2015

Don't see why it takes over a year to implement this but good decision anyway.
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BBC link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/23621134
 
Galic Ho

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MrRoboto said:
Interesting that so many high profile sprinters were caught suddenly. Is there a change in routine by the anti-doping people?
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They were dumb enough to go into Italy.

Seems to be the one place people are getting cracked down in. Oh that and they thought they were invincible.

Note: I haven't read everything on the sprinters, but I do remember they were raided in Italy. Italy just keeping kicking @rse! Must say I am impressed! ;)
 
Briant_Gumble

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Galic Ho said:
They were dumb enough to go into Italy.

Seems to be the one place people are getting cracked down in. Oh that and they thought they were invincible.

Note: I haven't read everything on the sprinters, but I do remember they were raided in Italy. Italy just keeping kicking @rse! Must say I am impressed! ;)
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From what I heard Powell phoned WADA and asked for an Italian police raid on his soigneur's room (ok so technically that wasn't his official title but we all know their often the drug mule's in cycling) thereby opening up a criminal investigation after 50 different substances were found.

At first it appeared a stroke of brilliance in a Machiavellian Lance-esque sort of way of creating a scapegoat but ultimately I think it was full ***.
 
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Almeisan said:
Certainly there is, but they are not going to say so publicly for obvious reasons.
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ya

like they don't announce new tests for epo and growth hormone like.....

anti-doping isn't about catching people out
 
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sniper

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the Caribbean is getting a lot of positives.
sad story.
who's doing the testing? is this all IAAF internal testing? Or is WADA also involved here?
 
Galic Ho

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Briant_Gumble said:
From what I heard Powell phoned WADA and asked for an Italian police raid on his soigneur's room (ok so technically that wasn't his official title but we all know their often the drug mule's in cycling) thereby opening up a criminal investigation after 50 different substances were found.

At first it appeared a stroke of brilliance in a Machiavellian Lance-esque sort of way of creating a scapegoat but ultimately I think it was full ***.
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I read exactly the same thing when this first popped up.

I was half expecting Powell to be let off. Hasn't happened yet, so the full *** part probably applies.
 
the sceptic

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Poursuivant said:
Four of the top five in the 100m were Jamaicans.
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this is an encouraging sign. The sport must now be clean, since its only possible for a team to be dominant without doping.
 
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