Doping in other sports?

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USATF Running Carmichael-style Program

Salazar using "It's not doping because the rules don't explicitly forbid it" at Nike's "oregon project."

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/new ... 2015_03_21

Good thing USATF is **heavily** invested in Nike athletes never testing positive.

I don't have a subscription, but apparently cycling is in the loop on this PED. An unnamed "prominent British cyclist" is mentioned. Drugs in sport and cycling ALWAYS finds a way to be involved. Good times.

They broke this story up into several stories.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/new ... 534634.ece
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A COACH to some of the world's biggest athletics stars, including Mo Farah and Galen Rupp, ordered thousands of pounds' worth of a revolutionary supplement that scientists found can boost performance by up to 11%.

In January 2011 and March 2012, Alberto Salazar, who heads the Nike Oregon Project in the United States, ordered two deliveries of NutraMet Sport, a legal supplement that contains a mixture of a compound named L-carnitine and carbohydrate, from its British developers.

It was found in tests to delay fatigue and reduce lactic acid, which prevents the body overexerting itself.

Studies on athletes by its developers at Nottingham University showed a dramatic improvement in performance within three to six months when it was taken orally.

Further research suggests similar effects could be seen within as little as five hours when the substance is taken into the body via an intravenous drip.

It is legal for athletes to take L-carnitine, a compound that occurs naturally in the body, and it is not on the list of substances banned by the World Athletics Doping Agency (WADA). Some athletes within the Nike Oregon Project took L-carnitine supplements orally but Salazar said they were of "no benefit" and are no longer taken by his team.

Farah, who won Olympic gold in both the 10,000m and 5,000m at London 2012, said he had tried an L-carnitine drink but it had not improved his performance.

He said: "I have worked extremely hard for my success. I tried a legal energy drink containing L-carnitine but saw no benefit and actually gained weight so I stopped drinking it."

Farah declined to say when he had taken L-carnitine but said he had not used it during the London 2012 Olympics.

Rupp, Farah's American training partner, who won the silver medal in the 10,000m in 2012, also said he had "briefly" taken L-carnitine "a few years ago" but no longer did so. British Athletics, the sports' governing body in the UK, said: "Over the past few years a small number of British athletes have utilised L-carnitine." It declined to name them.

Former athletes at the Nike Oregon Project have described unease in the camp when L-carnitine was tested using injections. It is understood that two former members of the project contacted the US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) with concerns over its use. The USADA declined to say if it is investigating.

Emails seen by The Sunday Times appear to show Salazar, who won the International Association of Athletics Federations coaching achievement award in 2013, outlining plans to inject L-carnitine into some of his athletes. Seeking USADA advice in December 2011, he wrote: "I'd like to try this test on a few of my elite athletes."

In another email, written by Salazar in January 2012, he apparently advised several of his athletes on how to respond to questions about L-carnitine from anti-doping officials to ensure they knew it complied with the rules.

"When asked about an [intravenous] infusion, you are to say no," he wrote.

"L-carnitine and iron in the way we have it done is classified as an injection. So no TUEs [therapeutic use exemptions] and no declaration needed, not online and not when asked about infusions when getting drug tested in or out of competition."

The Sunday Times understands that Steve Magness, a former assistant coach on the Nike Oregon Project, agreed to be a "guinea pig" for the injections which, the team hoped, would accelerate the supplement's performance-enhancing effects. A source close to Magness suggested the injections may have "skirted the spirit of the sport".

Physical tests conducted on Magness within days of his injections are believed to have shown improvements in his performance of up to 9%.

As a result it is understood that he withdrew himself from competition for nine months for fear of having an unfair advantage.

Jackie Areson, an American athlete and a member of the Nike Oregon Project at the time of the deliveries, said the drink containing L-carnitine was presented as "a prerequisite" to being part of the team and that she regularly consumed it from October 2011 to April 2012.

Areson also said the results of the tests on Magness prompted members of the team to refer to the procedure as a "goldmine". She said she later refused to have L-carnitine injections. The Sunday Times has no evidence that Farah or Nike were involved in, or had knowledge of, the L-carnitine injections.

The revelations will spark concerns about the use of legal supplements that can potentially provide huge performance improvements to athletes backed by teams that can afford them.

Energy drink companies often claim their products improve performance but the Nottingham University team say that, unlike NutraMet Sport, those claims are not supported by peer-reviewed scientific studies.

Salazar said: "I believe in a clean sport and a methodical, dedicated approach to training. L-carnitine is a widely available, legal nutritional supplement that is not banned by WADA. A few of my athletes tried it but found no benefit so they no longer use it."

Credit: George Arbuthnott, Iain Dey, Elizabeth Wilson and Robin Henry

WHEN Professor Paul Greenhaff saw the results of more than 20 years of painstaking research, he felt a rush of excitement.

Laid out before the bespectacled Nottingham University academic was data from a sixmonth research study showing that the performances of amateur athletes who had taken NutraMet Sport, his new supplement, had increased by an average of 11%.

After the results were peerreviewed and published in The Journal of Physiology in January 2011, Greenhaff's team received an order for 180 cartons of the supplement, each containing 14 sachets of the powder, at a cost of Pounds 3,600.

The order was made in the name of Alberto Salazar, a respected athletics coach and the head of the Nike Oregon Project.

At the time, Salazar was recruiting Mo Farah, by then the reigning European champion at 5,000m, to his stable of athletes.

Farah, who had moved to Britain from Somalia at the age of eight, had set his sights on winning Olympic gold in the capital of his adopted country.

"I've made a big decision to move forward in my career," he said, explaining his decision to uproot his family for the move to America.

"Last year was a great year for me and, if I'm ever going to get close to a medal in a world champs or Olympics in 2012, something needed to change a little bit. I believe [Salazar] can just make that 1-2% difference to get close to a medal."

Despite his fun-loving character -- he later created the "Mobot" celebration pose -- Farah thrived under Salazar's strict regime. He pounded the two-mile wood-chip track at Nike's headquarters in Beaverton, near Portland, and absorbed his coach's advice.

Describing his approach, Salazar said: "It's like in war. The soldier has to learn how to fight and do everything -- be physically fit, be a one-man army. But then you try and equip him with every bit of top science -- everything you can -- to keep him alive. That's what we do."

"Every bit of science" included the use of legal supplements, and Salazar was intrigued when a former senior member of Nike's research and development team mentioned Greenhaff's research in 2010.

Before joining Nike the insider, who asked not to be named, claims to have given a drink containing Greenhaff's recipe -- a mixture of the naturally occurring compound L-carnitine and carbohydrate -- to a "world-class British sportsman" and had seen "amazing" results.

It appeared to the insider that Greenhaff had developed a legal sports drink that could increase carnitine content in muscles.

This can result in the body storing up glycogen, which acts like the body's battery, for periods of high-intensity activity. It reduces the build-up of lactic acid, which protects the body from overexertion. Such effects would be particularly useful to endurance athletes.

Greenhaff's tests showed that such effects could be achieved by taking the drink twice a day for 3-6 months.

The order for Salazar in January 2011 was followed by a second shipment in March 2012. They are understood to be the only shipments of NutraMet Sport made by Greenhaff's team.

Salazar last week confirmed "a few" of the athletes on the Nike Oregon Project had used the supplement but that it had provided "no benefit" and was no longer used. He declined to say when the supplement had been used and by whom.

Farah, who secured gold in the 5,000m and 10,000m at London 2012, said he had used "a legal energy drink containing L-carnitine" but "saw no benefit" and gained weight.

He said he no longer used the supplement and had not done so during London 2012. However, he declined to say when he had used it.

Galen Rupp, Farah's training partner who won silver in the 10,000m at London 2012, said he had "briefly" tried supplement containing L-carnitine "a few years ago" but no longer used it.

He also declined to say when he had taken the supplement and, in a statement, said: "I have worked and trained hard for over 15 years to get where I am today."

British Athletics, the sport's governing body in the UK, said "a small number of British athletes" have taken L-carnitine in recent years but refused to name them.

"L-carnitine is a legal and scientifically legitimate supplement that can be used by endurance athletes," it said. "To our knowledge, all doses administered and methods of administration have been fully in accordance with [World Anti-Doping Agency] approved protocol and guidelines."

While Salazar says the supplement was of "no benefit", members of the Nike Oregon Project say he was initially "excited" by its potential.

Allan Kupczak, a former team therapist, claims Salazar told him how he had been alerted to a legal L-carnitine supplement that was claimed to have significantly improved the performance of a prominent British cyclist. Kupczak claims Salazar pondered aloud about giving it to Farah and Rupp. Salazar did not respond to a request to comment on Kupczak's claims.

It is not known if Farah was taking -- or was given -- a supplement containing L-carnitine at that time.

After winning gold at the World Championships in South Korea in the summer of 2011, Farah said: "It's been hard work and a lot of sacrifices." Days before, he had won silver in the 10,000m.

In October 2011, Greenhaff says he was asked by a member of the Nike Oregon Project whether the "rate of loading" of the L-carnitine could be increased.

Greenhaff knew it could.

Previous research had shown the carnitine uptake to muscle could be achieved in as little as five hours by infusing the supplement into the body using an intravenous drip.

Weeks later, The Sunday Times understands, Steve Magness, a scientific advisor and assistant coach at the Nike Oregon Project as well as an athlete at the time, was given three injections of L-carnitine over two hours to see whether a performance uplift could be secured within hours rather than months.

Dr Jeffrey Brown, a former paid medical consultant to the Nike Oregon Project, said he had carried out experiments involving L-carnitine injections with permission from the US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA).

A spokesman for the agency said: "USADA did not give anybody approval to conduct experiments on athletes. USADA's response to any inquiry about injections would be to point the individual to the WADA rules."

Brown declined to confirm whether the L-carnitine experiments were conducted on Nike Oregon Project athletes.

"If any of those people were patients, I couldn't talk, it's against the law for me to talk," he said.

After the injections, Magness is understood to have taken part in five days of treadmill tests. His performance had improved by 8-9%.

It is believed Magness reluctantly agreed to having the injections and felt he was being used as "a guinea pig". When he saw his subsequent performance results, he is understood to have withdrawn from competition for nine months to avoid having any benefit over other competitors.

Jackie Areson, an American athlete who trained with the Nike Oregon Project at the time, began using the L-carnitine supplement on a daily basis in late 2011.

Areson, who now lives on the Gold Coast in Australia, told The Sunday Times how the success of the L-carnitine injection experiment on Magness triggered excitement in Oregon, with some referring to the procedure as a "goldmine".

She says that she and Magness had discussed her taking the supplement by injection but had eventually decided against it.

"Typically, athletes would mix our own L-carnitine drinks using the ingredients supplied to us," she said. "The standard dosage of L-carnitine ... was to take two L-carnitine drinks per day."

In February 2012, Magness sent Greenhaff an email in which he reported "good gains" and "nice improvements" in the performances of some athletes at the Nike Oregon Project.

There is no evidence that Farah was -- or has ever been -- given injections of L-carnitine, or that Nike was aware of the use of L-carnitine, taken either orally or by injection.

A fortnight after Magness's email to Greenhaff, a second order for NutraMet Sport was made in Salazar's name. Magness left the Nike Oregon Project shortly before the London 2012 Olympics.

Coach who made Mo Before the start of the 1980 New York marathon, Alberto Salazar, a student at Oregon University, said he expected to win and in record time. Not only did Salazar win the race, he repeated the feat in the next two years.

Although never a natural athlete, Salazar had a raw determination that he took into coaching when he was forced to retire for health reasons.

He has been credited with helping to turn Mo Farah into an Olympic and world champion. The Nike Oregon Project was created at Salazar's suggestion in 2001 with the aim of making the American runner Galen Rupp a world champion. Farah joined in 2011.

Salazar, 56, applies psychology and science to his training methods, analysing athletes' blood samples and trying new supplements and vitamins. In 2013 he was awarded the International Association of Athletics Federations' coaching achievement award.

AFTER INJECTIONS, MAGNESS'S PERFORMANCE HAD IMPROVED BY 8-9%

Credit: George Arbuthnott and Iain Dey

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Caption: Alberto Salazar, top, with Galen Rupp and Mo Farah, ordered a legal supplement developed by Paul Greenhaff, centre. Steve Magness, far left, and Jackie Areson, right, also tried the supplement; MICHAEL STEELE/TERTIUS PICKARD

Just like some info from the CIRC, every combination of supplements, vitamins, and techniques are being tried.

The company is now bankrupt. L-carnitine is not the miricle it was thought to be years ago. The story obviously, is the culture of the program. I do appreciate that some athletes felt that the injections crossed a line, and refused.
 
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blackcat said:
Benotti69 said:
Want to run 9.58? Speak to Bolt's chemist Angel Hernandez

.......he believes EPO, insulin, testosterone, epitestosterone and adrenaline should all be legal in sport. He believes legalising substances that the body produces itself will enable the fairness and equality everyone supposedly wants, his words.


http://tenpercentorless.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/want-to-run-958-speak-to-bolts-chemist.html?m=1
i agree with him actually. but i come from a different perspective. he was always enabling the cheating, or doping. i actually dont see it as cheating, so edit that. cheating <strikethru>


the SARMs an CJC-1295, and the testo and hgh releasing peptides, allowed a 6'4" or 6'5" sprinter get out of the blocks quick enough to use his stride length.

He should never have won a 100m, let along run a 9.5 clean. Bolt this is.

people now walk around the streets without going to a gym, but have muscular bodies like a full time sprinter swimmer who lifted weights in the gym 5 days a week. They have symmetrical physiques. The key tell, is the symmetry. Before these great drugs, you could usually tell from the muscle shapes, which sport and which exercises they were doing. Even if you work free weights in the gym, it is still difficult to get he symmetrical physique, even using free weights. you need to use the pulley machines to engage movements where you change the direction of the gravity movement.

but bingo, CJC will do this without even stepping into the gym. and it will be even more symmetrical, perfectly symmetrical, without stepping into a machine in the gym and creating unique movements. so you have the upper body symmetry of a 200 metre sprinter swimmer (not runner).

I am going to have to pull you up on this, take as many PED's as you like but without putting in the graft they are pretty much worthless
 

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Nike give serial scumbag gatlin a new sponsorship deal.
when big corporations publicly show they don't care about doping then we are on a pretty slippery slope.
 
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Bahahahah reading an old thread on Salazar...

I am trying to understand the thread. What is the issue? Is it the supplement? The injection of the supplement ? or the prepared responses to testers?

It seems like old news that Salazar tries things to look for advantages, like altitude tents. He takes a super technical, 'no stone unturned' approach. It's who he is. I am not surprised to hear he calls USaDa to talk about these things. Some people think it is wrong but what is the more damning part here that is different? Do you think he bought off USADA? Seriously, is that what people are saying?

Read more: http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read. ... z3VRX2dQu6
 
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Nike give serial scumbag gatlin a new sponsorship deal.
when big corporations publicly show they don't care about doping then we are on a pretty slippery slope.

they dont care about doping cos we dont care about doping. how do you think they make their money, cos we buy the Air Jordans.

you reckon Michael Jordan built those traps and delts on just a good diet and off season weights? HAve a look at the bodies in the previous era in the 70s. I am sure even Julius Irving lifted free weights too. But the bodies off Kareem Abdul Jabaar and Dr J are the natural phsiques. Not Larry Johnson, not Anthony Mason (dies of heart failure at 48), not Dwight Howard, not Lebron, not Ron Artest, not Ben Wallace.

these muscles are not grown on bread and water and caloric surplus.
 

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Singer01 said:
Nike give serial scumbag gatlin a new sponsorship deal.
when big corporations publicly show they don't care about doping then we are on a pretty slippery slope.

they dont care about doping cos we dont care about doping. how do you think they make their money, cos we buy the Air Jordans.
speak for yourself, almost everyone i know thinks that dopers are total scum.
 
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blackcat said:
Singer01 said:
Nike give serial scumbag gatlin a new sponsorship deal.
when big corporations publicly show they don't care about doping then we are on a pretty slippery slope.

they dont care about doping cos we dont care about doping. how do you think they make their money, cos we buy the Air Jordans.
speak for yourself, almost everyone i know thinks that dopers are total scum.


chose the wrong sport bro
 
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The biggest suprise is not that Nike sponsor a doper, but that they sponsor one that got caught twice!
 
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del1962 said:
The biggest suprise is not that Nike sponsor a doper, but that they sponsor one that got caught twice!
bad publicity is still publicity. it's all about name recognition.
but agreed, supporting gatlin is an exaggeration.
 
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luckyboy said:
http://www.gazzetta.it/Atletica/24-03-2015/atletica-zone-d-ombra-mo-farah-quale-benzina-usa-110228214713.shtml

Gazzetta article about Mo Farah's rise in haemoglobin

We get two data points, one in 2007 and one in 2013, with no month or even season. Wherever they got these data, hopefully they have access to more, with specific dates. Because right now, it's as indicative of doping as his shoe size. The article does point out Farah's habit of passing out, which has always been bizarre.
 
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del1962 said:
blackcat said:
Benotti69 said:
Want to run 9.58? Speak to Bolt's chemist Angel Hernandez

.......he believes EPO, insulin, testosterone, epitestosterone and adrenaline should all be legal in sport. He believes legalising substances that the body produces itself will enable the fairness and equality everyone supposedly wants, his words.


http://tenpercentorless.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/want-to-run-958-speak-to-bolts-chemist.html?m=1
i agree with him actually. but i come from a different perspective. he was always enabling the cheating, or doping. i actually dont see it as cheating, so edit that. cheating <strikethru>


the SARMs an CJC-1295, and the testo and hgh releasing peptides, allowed a 6'4" or 6'5" sprinter get out of the blocks quick enough to use his stride length.

He should never have won a 100m, let along run a 9.5 clean. Bolt this is.

people now walk around the streets without going to a gym, but have muscular bodies like a full time sprinter swimmer who lifted weights in the gym 5 days a week. They have symmetrical physiques. The key tell, is the symmetry. Before these great drugs, you could usually tell from the muscle shapes, which sport and which exercises they were doing. Even if you work free weights in the gym, it is still difficult to get he symmetrical physique, even using free weights. you need to use the pulley machines to engage movements where you change the direction of the gravity movement.

but bingo, CJC will do this without even stepping into the gym. and it will be even more symmetrical, perfectly symmetrical, without stepping into a machine in the gym and creating unique movements. so you have the upper body symmetry of a 200 metre sprinter swimmer (not runner).

I am going to have to pull you up on this, take as many PED's as you like but without putting in the graft they are pretty much worthless

if you are a sportsman/woman/sportsperson, yes. I agree. But these drugs are indeed molding physiques for the layperson. just rendering alot of fat, and from the face too. Then, adding a very little bit of lean muscle tissue. not much, p'raps 1%. The thing is, the 1% of muscle, is a symmetrical addition of muscle. unlike if you work in the gym, doing those free weights exercises against gravity, you have a certain looking physique. ofcourse, with cables, you can create exercises to do the inverted movements for better symmetry. but the thing is, when you render the fat with the drugs, and put on a little weight of lean muscle tissue, it looks exaggerated.

but help for sport, without putting in the excersize and training? no. but this was not my point.
 
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Race Radio repeats his question to Radcliffe:

Race Radio @TheRaceRadio · Mar 25

.@paulajradcliffe How about a response to the question I asked several months ago, is your name on the IAAF suspicious red list? If so why?
 
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Race Radio repeats his question to Radcliffe:

Race Radio @TheRaceRadio · Mar 25

.@paulajradcliffe How about a response to the question I asked several months ago, is your name on the IAAF suspicious red list? If so why?

im a nobody and im gonna ask a though question
*steps impatiently waiting for an answer
 
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SkyTears said:
sniper said:
Race Radio repeats his question to Radcliffe:

Race Radio @TheRaceRadio · Mar 25

.@paulajradcliffe How about a response to the question I asked several months ago, is your name on the IAAF suspicious red list? If so why?

im a nobody and im gonna ask a though question
*steps impatiently waiting for an answer

yes Sky Tears, indeed, you are a nobody, tho you may be an empire crew nobody. Race Radio is somebody, so you cannot be referring to him in ur rhetoric tho. I think I followed up on RR's question a coupla months ago, can someone pls tell Paula I am still awaiting an answer also.
 
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http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto...e1537347.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2015_03_29 (Pay wall)

More on the thyroid craze

Athlete’s health harmed by ‘turbocharger’
AN ELITE British athlete claims her health was damaged by large doses of a thyroid hormone recommended by a medical official linked to UK Athletics (UKA), the sports governing body in Britain, in an effort to boost her performance.

Emma Jackson, an 800m runner who competed in the 2011 World Championships, says she spent about two years on unnecessarily high doses of the medication, which accelerates the metabolism and is claimed to assist weight loss and act as a stimulant.

Jackson, 26, says she considered taking legal action against the official after discovering she had been told to stay on a high dosage despite her hormone levels being significantly above normal. She says she decided not to do so for fear it could hamper her career.

Three independent medical experts, who were each shown Jackson's medical records, said they would have reduced her dosage.

Emma Jackson's twitter account: https://twitter.com/emmajacko88/with_replies
 
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http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto...e1537354.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2015_03_29 (paywall)

Super-supplement injections to be scrutinised by doping agency

THE World Anti-Doping Authority (Wada) has offered to examine evidence that an athlete within Mo Farah’s American training camp unwittingly broke its rules by receiving injections of a legal supplement only months before the London Olympics.

Leaked emails and “top secret” performance data obtained by The Sunday Times indicates that in late 2011 Alvina Begay, an American marathon runner with the Nike Oregon Project, received an injection of L-carnitine, which scientific studies suggest could improve performance by 11%.

According to Wada, injections not given in a hospital or as part of a clinical investigation were banned at that time, but rules were amended in 2012 to allow injections in some circumstances.

Begay said she had derived no benefit from her use of L-carnitine and no longer used the supplement. She declined to say when she was given the injection.
 
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Kyle Bochek of the Coventry Blaze banned for 18 months for Methylhexanimine.

The athlete promptly admitted to the violation that his ingestion of methylhexaneamine arose through his use of a dietary supplement. He also provided evidence to prove that he did not intend to use the substance to enhance his performance.

As a result, the standard sanction of two years has been reduced to 18 months in accordance with the anti doping rules.


Press release
http://www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/ice ... violation/

Full decision
http://www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule ... ion/a/6738


Not sure I agree with the reduction:
Yes he admitted the violation and provided input on the source, but he is substantially at fault for not taking even the most basic of checks about the product he was deliberately taking.
 
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Catwhoorg said:
Kyle Bochek of the Coventry Blaze banned for 18 months for Methylhexanimine.

The athlete promptly admitted to the violation that his ingestion of methylhexaneamine arose through his use of a dietary supplement. He also provided evidence to prove that he did not intend to use the substance to enhance his performance.

As a result, the standard sanction of two years has been reduced to 18 months in accordance with the anti doping rules.


Press release
http://www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/ice ... violation/

Full decision
http://www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule ... ion/a/6738


Not sure I agree with the reduction:
Yes he admitted the violation and provided input on the source, but he is substantially at fault for not taking even the most basic of checks about the product he was deliberately taking.

Got to agree. I always thought the point of the reduced ban was so that when an athlete can show they took the necessary steps to ensure a product was safe and then were caught they could receive a shorter suspension. Drinking any random crap you happen to buy doesn't seem to fall under this.
 

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