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Doping in Soccer/Football

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Anyone see an old friend of the clinic’s Didier Deschamp’s dopers XI last night? I watched the game and felt ridiculous doing so. They are preposterous and presumably lost in 2016 to Portugal because they were out doped especially by Pepe. This latter turned up at one those games in France in a suit (not in a bib) presumably because he was glowing too much and wanted to avoid a test. Or was he now out of the tournament given his new attire? No, he was back for the next game and starred in the final when Ronaldo got injured.

The French are back and truly juiced. Their tactics consist of scoring a goal from the set piece and hanging on (DD having persuaded the usual morons from the banlieues to take the needle). Nobody is saying that the Belgians are clean but at least the they have some highly technical players who are pleasing on the eye. The French have one – Mbappé and that’s about it. The rest of them of them just run, run, run, run and run as per the program.

I have not bothered to watch England thus far but any team who can match Colombia dope for dope speaks for itself. Croatia’s star players are all with Spanish clubs and presumably can source their own gear. I won’t bother to watch tonight.

Has anyone actually failed a test anywhere so far?
 
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No football player will fail a doping test, FIFA is there to take care of that.
BTW, France and Belgium had just run 102km in that semi-final. Not impressive.
 
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They only ever test positive for some real small time ***.
Maybe it was part of a much larger cocktail. We have heard of cyclists who were taking so much stuff they don't even know what.

Ramos was no doubt on much worse stuff. The administrative error was probably when they accidentally tested the sample of a protected athlete (aka a footballer)
 
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The Hitch said:
They only ever test positive for some real small time ****.
Maybe it was part of a much larger cocktail. We have heard of cyclists who were taking so much stuff they don't even know what.

Ramos was no doubt on much worse stuff. The administrative error was probably when they accidentally tested the sample of a protected athlete (aka a footballer)
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Ha, yes of course!
 
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Mamadou Sakho is suing the World Anti-Doping Agency for £13m in the High Court in London.

The former Liverpool defender is now at 'lowly' Crystal Palace (currently seventh in the EPL, three places above Liverpool) and claims his time on the naughty step with a provisional suspension ruined his career. WADA, in response, have said this is not so and he was dropped from Liverpool because of disciplinary issues and not being able to get on with the manager, Jürgen Klopp. The £13m, Sakho says, represents loss of earnings.

The case itself concerns the drug he popped a positive for, higenamine. UEFA ended his provisional suspension claiming there was confusion over the status of higenamine. It's not specifically name on the Prohibited List, UEFA claimed there is doubt whether it is caught in the catch-all grouping of B2–agonists, and not all labs test for it (the Cologne lab, where the tests were carried out, does, Martial Saugy's Lausanne lab, on the other hand, does not).

It looks, then, like the High Court is being asked to decide whether higenamine is or is not on the list (through the catch-all B2–agonists classification) and, if it isn't, whether WADA acted in bad faith when they advised the Cologne lab that the substance was on the list.

I would guess, also, that first and foremost the High Courth will have to decide whether or not it has jurisdiction here.

For the record, WADA's reported income for 2018 was approx £26m, or just twice the sum Sakho seeks. The threat of a wealthy athlete suing and bankrupting one of these bodies has been around for a long time, Hein Verbruggen used it as an excuse to dawdle on anti-doping in the 1990s, trying to push the responsibility back to the teams and away from the UCI. In the 1990s British Athletics was forced into bankruptcy following the Diane Modahl case.

One extra point for you: Sky's reported annual income is now £38m, almost half as much again as WADA's. Nine times in ten, you will be told that athletes lack the financial firepower to take on the anti-doping system. Cycling, for the last three years, has had one team that that is not true of.

Sakho, his case is being funded personally, not by either his current or former teams.
 
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fmk_RoI said:
Mamadou Sakho is suing the World Anti-Doping Agency for £13m in the High Court in London.

The former Liverpool defender is now at 'lowly' Crystal Palace (currently seventh in the EPL, three places above Liverpool) and claims his time on the naughty step with a provisional suspension ruined his career. WADA, in response, have said this is not so and he was dropped from Liverpool because of disciplinary issues and not being able to get on with the manager, Jürgen Klopp. The £13m, Sakho says, represents loss of earnings.

The case itself concerns the drug he popped a positive for, higenamine. UEFA ended his provisional suspension claiming there was confusion over the status of higenamine. It's not specifically name on the Prohibited List, UEFA claimed there is doubt whether it is caught in the catch-all grouping of B2–agonists, and not all labs test for it (the Cologne lab, where the tests were carried out, does, Martial Saugy's Lausanne lab, on the other hand, does not).

It looks, then, like the High Court is being asked to decide whether higenamine is or is not on the list (through the catch-all B2–agonists classification) and, if it isn't, whether WADA acted in bad faith when they advised the Cologne lab that the substance was on the list.

I would guess, also, that first and foremost the High Courth will have to decide whether or not it has jurisdiction here.

For the record, WADA's reported income for 2018 was approx £26m, or just twice the sum Sakho seeks. The threat of a wealthy athlete suing and bankrupting one of these bodies has been around for a long time, Hein Verbruggen used it as an excuse to dawdle on anti-doping in the 1990s, trying to push the responsibility back to the teams and away from the UCI. In the 1990s British Athletics was forced into bankruptcy following the Diane Modahl case.

One extra point for you: Sky's reported annual income is now £38m, almost half as much again as WADA's. Nine times in ten, you will be told that athletes lack the financial firepower to take on the anti-doping system. Cycling, for the last three years, has had one team that that is not true of.

Sakho, his case is being funded personally, not by either his current or former teams.
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OMG - no games played - Palace are 7th alphabetically and Liverpool 10th but carry on making comparisons based on that.
 
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Zam_Olyas said:
Riyad Mahrez...nothing to see here.
www.telegraph.co.uk

Riyad Mahrez cleared to play for Manchester City after passing drugs test

Riyad Mahrez has been cleared to play for Manchester City against West Ham United on Saturday after being subjected to a drugs test this week in the wake of his omission from the Community Shield squad over fears he may have been given medication containing a banned substance.
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With a manager like Pep running the show, how could there possibly be any suspicion here
 
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Zam_Olyas said:
Riyad Mahrez...nothing to see here.
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What is to be seen here?

The player was treated while on international duty. The doctor doing the treatment didn't provide the relevant paperwork to the club. The club applied the precautionary principle and benched the player. The anti-doping authorities were called in and administered an OOC test. The player was cleared to play.

What am I missing?
 
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The picture proves nothing - The two pics are taken from different angles, while in the first pic his biceps are covered then the second pic he is wearing a sleeveless jersey - His legs are more clearly visible in both pics and there is liitle difference in his legs - Nothing that could be considered earth shattering.
 
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yaco said:
The picture proves nothing - The two pics are taken from different angles, while in the first pic his biceps are covered then the second pic he is wearing a sleeveless jersey - His legs are more clearly visible in both pics and there is liitle difference in his legs - Nothing that could be considered earth shattering.
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Who said anything about proof?

But as far as suspicion goes...wether his arms are covered or not its obvious that he's packed lots of lean muscle onto his arms and shoulders. The operative word here being lean. Ask anyone in the bodybuilding world, people who train specifically for physique enhancement, and they'll tell you how hard that is to do naturally. Get big or get lean. Pick one.

Lean muscle gains like that in a short space of time are almost always the result of an altered hormonal/anabolic states within the body.

This dude is built like and has the explosive pace and power of a 100m sprinter and routinely covers 10-15k in 90 minutes twice a week through a series of short high intensity sprints.

But eh, he's a highly paid footballer playing for one of the richest sports teams in the world, of course nobody GAF if he's doping or not,
 
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