Doping in Swimming

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fuzzydunlop3 said:
http://swimswam.com/world-champ-mads-glaesner-gets-three-month-suspension-loses-bronze-medal/

what's in the water at USC? Ous Mellouli, Jessica Hardy, and now another failed test. Dr. Dave Salo should be facing some questions.

From the article:

two days later after the 1500 meter freestyle, his test came back clean. He won the gold medal in that 1500 freestyle…His gold from the 1500 will remain.

It’s like a rider testing positive on a stage in a GT, and allowed to keep his win in a subsequent stage if his sample then was negative.

This three-month suspension will not cost Glaesner a swim at the long course World Championships in Barcelona this summer, where he was set to contend for a medal in the 400 and the 1500. After all appeals and B-samples were run, the suspension was back-dated to March 19th, so his suspension will be up on Wednesday.

And some of us thought Contador got a good deal.

According to the World Anti-Doping Code, the appropriate punishments for a first positive test for this substance can range from public reprimand to two years of suspension.

Yeah, no need to suspend, just shame them in public. “Bad boy, you’re a bad boy! Now behave!”

LA should ask WADA if his suspension could be lifted, he certainly has served the public reprimand part.
 
fuzzydunlop3 said:
interesting that both Sun Yang and Ye Shiwen both trained under Denis Cotterell in Australia, who also happened to be Grant Hackett's coach.
Cotterell comes from the Don Talbot/Charlie Walsh school of coaching. Get a dozen eggs, throw them against the wall as hard as possible and take the ones that don't smash.

It's a training style that practically forces athletes to either find a way to cope, or burn out spectacularly. This is why the AIS turns out so few world class athletes for the numbers that attend, yet the ones who make it are generally world class (swimming and track cycling at least)

Be very suspicious of any swimmer or cyclist who survives the AIS.
 
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Nick777 said:
How far back would you think?

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fuzzydunlop3 said:
http://swimswam.com/world-champ-mads-glaesner-gets-three-month-suspension-loses-bronze-medal/

what's in the water at USC? Ous Mellouli, Jessica Hardy, and now another failed test. Dr. Dave Salo should be facing some questions.

Nope. No questions. Salo gets results. That's the metric he's measured by. In the very minor sport of collegiate cycling, a winning coach employed by a college admitted to distributing EPO and kept his job. I could cite far worse things done under successful coaches that are vigorously defended.

BTW, he got off rather lightly because that's what FINA's regulations are and WADA can only apply FINA's regulations. Their seemingly lax rules are very likely a reason there is less doping controversy in that sport. Which, is the point.
 
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Bosco10 said:
Does Michael Phelps really eat 12,000 calories a day?

I'd say yes. He'd be swimming 6+ hours day.

When I was a swimmer, I was part of a study on elite athletes and I was doing 6500 calories a day. I was only doing 4 hours of swimming a day then.