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Difficult to dislike the guy, but his record is pretty shady.BullsFan22 said:I want to believe Olsson, but....This guy has been doing this for years now. Anyone want to bet when he does come back from his 'sickness,' he'll be winning races and putting everyone to the sword?
http://www.svt.se/sport/vintersport/johan-olssons-o-tur-att-lamna-aterbud/
Random Direction said:If someone has a bit of time and the data available to them, it could be quite informative to run a correlation analysis between nationality, result (in time or placement) and location of anti doping lab to which test samples were sent. My bet is on the same issue in athletics with one or two labs clearing positives for those who have paid / are from a given nation, occurring in xc and biathlon. For the issue to be real, there would be a strong skew in results for some nations or individuals to some labs, and a relatively consistent distribution for other nations. I'd pick Moscow and Lausanne to be the shady ones - and initially look at the Russian, Swiss and Austrian skiers, as well as those with close ties to those nations.
Feel free to PM me with the data.
Becky, Marty or Lisa, if you are on the forum this is for you.
Random Direction said:True on some parts Bulls fan, however my key point was that a statistical analysis could potentially be useful in determining if some nations have been using relationships with the testing labs to create windows to compete while glowing. If it shows the swedes and Norwegians have been doing it but not the Russians, great. I'd prefer to deal with statistical evidence instead of possibility.
BullsFan22 said:Looks like the Norwegians at it again this season. Sundby looking untouchable already. It reminds me of 15-16 years ago, when the Norwegians would go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 in the men's race this time of year. The next two people? In one of those races it was Muehlegg and Elofsson. I don't need to tell you about Muehlegg, do I? Yes they had noticeably fast skis yesterday (especially compared to the Russians, who would be reduced to almost a crawl the second half of the big last hill in Kuusamo), but does that paint the entire picture?
BullsFan22 said:Bjoerndalen though. 42 next month, still winning races, against guys almost 10-20 years younger. Disappears for most of the year in the Italian and Austrian Alps, Norwegian news reporting him being sick and or injured, missing weeks of training, and does he do? Wins by hitting all targets and skis with a time inside the top 10. Early in the season, yes, but the guy won the bulk of his races in the EPO era. Clean? Probably not.
coinneach said:BullsFan22 said:Bjoerndalen though. 42 next month, still winning races, against guys almost 10-20 years younger. Disappears for most of the year in the Italian and Austrian Alps, Norwegian news reporting him being sick and or injured, missing weeks of training, and does he do? Wins by hitting all targets and skis with a time inside the top 10. Early in the season, yes, but the guy won the bulk of his races in the EPO era. Clean? Probably not.
I know I should say I don't care, because I care about the integrity of sport.
But I have to say if there is one athlete who is above all the rest in the last 20 years it would be eitherLance, Bolt or Bjorndalen, and I've looked up to all of them......but Bjorndalens 95th wold cup win yesterday was the the most amazing performance I have ever seen. His final 2 shots were spine tingling beyond anything else I've seen. FANTASTIC
I agree that Bjørndalen in general is a bit fishy, but not this performance. He won solely due to shooting well, which is the way one would expect a 42-year old to win.BullsFan22 said:Bjoerndalen though. 42 next month, still winning races, against guys almost 10-20 years younger. Disappears for most of the year in the Italian and Austrian Alps, Norwegian news reporting him being sick and or injured, missing weeks of training, and does he do? Wins by hitting all targets and skis with a time inside the top 10. Early in the season, yes, but the guy won the bulk of his races in the EPO era. Clean? Probably not.
maltiv said:I agree that Bjørndalen in general is a bit fishy, but not this performance. He won solely due to shooting well, which is the way one would expect a 42-year old to win.BullsFan22 said:Bjoerndalen though. 42 next month, still winning races, against guys almost 10-20 years younger. Disappears for most of the year in the Italian and Austrian Alps, Norwegian news reporting him being sick and or injured, missing weeks of training, and does he do? Wins by hitting all targets and skis with a time inside the top 10. Early in the season, yes, but the guy won the bulk of his races in the EPO era. Clean? Probably not.
10th fastest skiing time for a guy with perfect technique, who used to be able to win normal XC-skiing events at his peak, isn't really that suspicious. Particularly considering that it's early in the season, which means that a lot of non-Norwegians usually are far from top form due to too little training on snow.