In case of pro atheletes, I suppose the big diference is WHEN they were tested. or, in which medical state. You could have yourself be tested in the off-season, after recently drawing blood, getting ready to pick up actual training again for next season. Or, do it the week before you biggest race. Blood levels near perfect, or even simulating what they'll be at the race.meandmygitane said:Off-topic:
Just for information, at the TV-broadcast from the Norwegian champs. one of the commentators stated that Espen Harald Bjerke (who is/hasn't exactly been a winning machine) had been measured to have a VO2max of 96 ml/kg historically but the other commentator said that the measurements had been faulty.
So I would be very wary of trusting any Norwegian VO2max-values, including Daehlie's. Lot's of strange values.
Maybe perfect peaking? Ok, I never heard from Diggins before, but who knows, maybe trained for this all the time, and we see that almost everyone is after the TdS. And if we see her results we can see, that she had won almost everything in NA.Cloxxki said:Women's XC. How about that Diggins girl? 5th today in 15k after 6th in Moscow earlier this week.
Both in XC and Biathlon, North America took a huge leap in speed the past days of weeks. Kershaw (CA) got his first WC win in the 15k.
I agree on Kershaw of course. With the top two absent, he was a huge win candidate before the start.vcampbell said:Maybe perfect peaking? Ok, I never heard from Diggins before, but who knows, maybe trained for this all the time, and we see that almost everyone is after the TdS. And if we see her results we can see, that she had won almost everything in NA.
I think there is nothing surprising about Kershaw. It was only the matter of time of his first win. When we see Kersaw's and Harvey's results, then we can see that they are better and better.
Since he was 36? At 36 he won 3 world cup victories and was the fastest skier in the Olympics. Also, he wasn't faster than Svendsen today.Zoncolan said:Today's performance in men's pursuit of IBU WC by OEB was ridiculous.
A veteran who was unable to keep up with younger guys since he was 36 suddenly outskies Svendsen and M. Fourcade, the two fastest skiers at 38?!
Did he sign for RSNT or something?
Svendsen was the fastest at the Olympics IIRC.maltiv said:Since he was 36? At 36 he won 3 world cup victories and was the fastest skier in the Olympics. Also, he wasn't faster than Svendsen today.
His form has improved steadily since the season started. Last season he started in a bit too good shape when he was the fastest skier at the beginning of the season.
Why would Horner be the only one? No drop in ski speed over 2 decades, that'd be more odd.Ferminal said:It doesn't quite sit right with me that he'd be clean for most of his career but then decide to do a Horner at the age where he probably should be retiring.
I'm amazed at how much slower Landertinger, Eder et al have been lately. They were flying 2 years ago.Cloxxki said:Why would Horner be the only one? No drop in ski speed over 2 decades, that'd be more odd.
It may also being that the others are cleaner. The Austrians are, or are not taking their sport serious at all.
Tchoudov and Tcherezov are injured.Zoncolan said:I'm amazed at how much slower Landertinger, Eder et al have been lately. They were flying 2 years ago.
Also, where is Maxim Tchoudov? He was outskiing everyone bar OEB 3 years ago. Then we had a few busts in the Russian team (Iourieva, Iaroshenko) and him and Tcherezov all but dissapeared. Sleptsova is also way slower than she used to be.
As maltiv wrote, OEB form has improved in the last few races, and also don't forget, that Fourcade and Svendsen were in the main group half of the race, and OEB needed to chase them, so it is not so surprising that he went so fast. Also Fourcade and Svendsen also missed too many. And we also don't know anything about how the wax worked etc.Zoncolan said:Svendsen was the fastest at the Olympics IIRC.
The jump in form is too great to be the result of normal peaking IMO.
@Python: nobody is disputing the fact he's the GOAT. He's way past his peak years, with guys like M. Fourcade skiing faster than him for the past two years, and Svendsen for even longer. Suddenly, at 38 he improves his ski speed by 10% and is able to match their speed?! I don't think so.
Especially keeping in mind that these two are 23 and 26 respectively and constantly improving.
For the record, I was always a Poiree fan.
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