Doping raid Operación Galgo: Fuentes Caught...again

[OneRaceWonder]

the more i hear about dr fue the more i think he's nuts. if he uses his new mix up to name names, good on him, but it wont change the fact he's an outlandish nut.

Ok, so lets say that he´s a nut, but what I don´t understand is, that he has got to make a lot of money!? Does he own a clinic were he can make some money laundring or what? If he´s an exceptional doctor, he could have made a lot of money without doping athletes...?

 

[The Hitch]

Ok, so lets say that he´s a nut, but what I don´t understand is, that he has got to make a lot of money!? Does he own a clinic were he can make some money laundring or what? If he´s an exceptional doctor, he could have made a lot of money without doping athletes...?

Not really. They say Armstrong was paying 100 000 a year. So Fuentes clients will be paying less but we can still comfortably say tens of thousands per athlete, even when you take away expenses. Looking at the Puerto list how many people were there? 35 cyclists. 200 athletes.

So even if he was only getting 10 000 an athlete hes clearing 2 million. But from the looks of it hell be getting more than that. Perhaps 5 times that. If its true that you got the likes of Nadal there at some point then he would probably be charging more than that.

 

[OneRaceWonder]

Not really. They say Armstrong was paying 100 000 a year. So Fuentes clients will be paying less but we can still comfortably say tens of thousands per athlete, even when you take away expenses. Looking at the Puerto list how many people were there? 35 cyclists. 200 athletes.

So even if he was only getting 10 000 an athlete hes clearing 2 million. But from the looks of it hell be getting more than that. Perhaps 5 times that. If its true that you got the likes of Nadal there at some point then he would probably be charging more than that.

But when he´s making that amount of money, why aren´t the spanish tax authorities involved? Kind of a rethorical question, but when cops/authorities know what to look for, the usually find it.

Btw, how much did Fränk Schleck pay for his "training program"?

 

[Kerbdog]

Btw, how much did Fränk Schleck pay for his "training program"?

If im not mistaken it was 6,991.00 Euro give or take a few cents. I think that was the figure that was tracked between the 2 bank accounts. For interval training apparently. Dont get me wrong cos I like Frank Schleck but everytime i watch him I always think about this.

 

[hrotha]

But when he´s making that amount of money, why aren´t the spanish tax authorities involved? Kind of a rethorical question, but when cops/authorities know what to look for, the usually find it.

I always imagine some lowly tax officer, State Antidoping Agency staff employee or sports federation clerk getting on Fuentes's track and uncovering lots of incriminating stuff, until someone higher up takes the case from them and shuts it down.

 

[The Hitch]

I always imagine some lowly tax officer, State Antidoping Agency staff employee or sports federation clerk getting on Fuentes's track and uncovering lots of incriminating stuff, until someone higher up takes the case from them and shuts it down.

Anyone who uncovers Fuentes dealings gets a choice.

Plata O Plomo.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

I always imagine some lowly tax officer, State Antidoping Agency staff employee or sports federation clerk getting on Fuentes's track and uncovering lots of incriminating stuff, until someone higher up takes the case from them and shuts it down.

Anyone who uncovers Fuentes dealings gets a choice.

Plata O Plomo.

Plata O Plomo, accept a bribe or face assination? I hope that's just part of the imagination and not really the case. ???

 

[khardung la]

Anyone who uncovers Fuentes dealings gets a choice.

Plata O Plomo.

Oh man, that is exaggerating a bit, don´t you think so?.

 

[L'arriviste]

Oh man, that is exaggerating a bit, don´t you think so?.

I suspect not. The interview to which I alluded above in which Fuentes indicated about keeping schtum was actually described elsewhere by our very own BroDeal some years ago:

It was in the same interview [with French newspaper Le Monde - L'arriviste], incidentally, that Eufemanio Fuentes replied to a question about his connection with Barcelona and Real Madrid saying:

"I cannot answer that. I have received death threats. I was told that if I revealed certain things, I or my family could have serious problems. I was threatened three times, and I won't be threatened a fourth time."

Source of the thread on which BroDeal posted

 

[The Hitch]

Oh man, that is exaggerating a bit, don´t you think so?.

Plata O Plomo, accept a bribe or face assination? I hope that's just part of the imagination and not really the case. ???

Relax its in jest. Others here have talked about how Fuentes will get assasinated and all that and im just mocking that idea.

as much as i believe there is conspiracy here, in so far as there are far more people doping both in cycling and outside cycling, than it is said, and in so far as i believe Fuentes has had dealings with high up Spanish footballers, it is clear that this conspiracy goes below the level of assasination.

In otherwords forget the plomo (lead)

The plata (silver) though is very much involved.

Edit: Though looking at Laraviste post, i suppose anything is possible.

 

[khardung la]

Relax its in jest. Others here have talked about how Fuentes will get assasinated and all that and im just mocking that idea.

I am commenting that knowing that you are joking, but out of concern that someone really thinks a guy like Fuentes is under death threat or something. Probably some people, specially out of Spain, don´t know that the guy is an egocentric ****er, what in Spanish is called "a chulo". Of course money is driving everything in this case, but the guy is also very proud of himself and likes to think of himself as a sort of "pillar" of Spanish sport, a brilliant doctor and a person that makes the dirt job that no one wants to know about.

He is the kind of guy that would always talk criptically to appear more important than he is, and given his ego I don´t discard that he would be capable of confessing all his crimes in detail and make a book one day. Anyway, for now I think he is blackmailing important sportmen and politicians, and will keep doing that, at the end he needs them and they need him.

http://www.elmundo.es/blogs/deportes/libredirecto/2010/12/14/eufemiano-el-futbol-y-el-dopaje.html

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Relax its in jest. Others here have talked about how Fuentes will get assasinated and all that and im just mocking that idea.

Edit: Though looking at Laraviste post, i suppose anything is possible.

The jest... I figured as much. But still as you say anything possible. I'm just curious. But as they say in Spain, la curiosidad mató al gato.

 

[D-Queued]

... but the guy is also very proud of himself and likes to think of himself as a sort of "pillar" of Spanish sport, a brilliant doctor and a person that makes the dirt job that no one wants to know about.

...

I have to admit that I have always appreciated his sense of humor.

Gynecologist... manstruation
Dog names... man's best friend

But, with that kind of attitude he clearly has a casual regard for authority at best and obviously considers himself too smart for everyone.

Regards, David

 

[hrotha]

Fuentes was born to be a mediocre rock star, no doubt about it, but that doesn't mean he hasn't been very, very important in the history of Spanish sports in the last 30 years. I have no trouble believing there were death threats involved, but right now I don't think they were too serious or that someone actually intended to act on these threats.

I hope Qatar offers him asylum, protection and a job so that he's free to tell everything. Qatar's football team could use some enhancements, too.

 

[flicker]

Fuentes and Ferrari should get medals and bonus for the health and training benefits that have used in sports. They have made history.

 

[flicker]

I am commenting that knowing that you are joking, but out of concern that someone really thinks a guy like Fuentes is under death threat or something. Probably some people, specially out of Spain, don´t know that the guy is an egocentric ****er, what in Spanish is called "a chulo". Of course money is driving everything in this case, but the guy is also very proud of himself and likes to think of himself as a sort of "pillar" of Spanish sport, a brilliant doctor and a person that makes the dirt job that no one wants to know about.

He is the kind of guy that would always talk criptically to appear more important than he is, and given his ego I don´t discard that he would be capable of confessing all his crimes in detail and make a book one day. Anyway, for now I think he is blackmailing important sportmen and politicians, and will keep doing that, at the end he needs them and they need him.

http://www.elmundo.es/blogs/deportes/libredirecto/2010/12/14/eufemiano-el-futbol-y-el-dopaje.html

If Alberto had only gone to a proper Physician instead of some back alley guy
he would be all suited up to campaign in 2011. Fuentes does a job no one else wants but is badly needed for the good of national pride and sport.

 

[Escarabajo]

I suspect not. The interview to which I alluded above in which Fuentes indicated about keeping schtum was actually described elsewhere by our very own BroDeal some years ago:



Source of the thread on which BroDeal posted

This was published by Brodeal in 2007.

Wow. That says it all.

Strange is that he was already using Blood doping when EPO was hitting the competition scenes. Maybe he switched once he mastered the usage of EPO. Speculations.

Pereiro and Delgado. All behind Fuentes.

Thanks to Brodeal again for this information.

 

[The Hitch]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...BMaiyA?docId=f7a7e0cc235a42e4863f917d5cdb97d1

Now they are going to get tough.

Or so they say.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I suspect not. The interview to which I alluded above in which Fuentes indicated about keeping schtum was actually described elsewhere by our very own BroDeal some years ago:



Source of the thread on which BroDeal posted

Which was originaly posted by "Strategy" @ the DPF.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...BMaiyA?docId=f7a7e0cc235a42e4863f917d5cdb97d1

Now they are going to get tough.

Or so they say.

"Blanco insisted Spain was at the forefront of the battle on doping."

"Nobody fights against doping more than Spain does,"


This is a great quote. The fish wrap has some good ones but that one is my favorite. It was the parting shot.

 

[D-Queued]

"Blanco insisted Spain was at the forefront of the battle on doping."

"Nobody fights against the World Anti doping Agency more than Spain does,"


This is a great quote. The fish wrap has some good ones but that one is my favorite. It was the parting shot.

Sorry, Glenn, but in Spanish grammar it is ok to drop the subject.

In this case, we all know what subject Blanco was really referring to.

For those unfamiliar with such linguistic nuance, I have edited your post to add the complete Subject here.

Dave.

 

[BroDeal]

Not really. They say Armstrong was paying 100 000 a year. So Fuentes clients will be paying less but we can still comfortably say tens of thousands per athlete, even when you take away expenses. Looking at the Puerto list how many people were there? 35 cyclists. 200 athletes.

So even if he was only getting 10 000 an athlete hes clearing 2 million. But from the looks of it hell be getting more than that. Perhaps 5 times that. If its true that you got the likes of Nadal there at some point then he would probably be charging more than that.

In the four years before Operation Puerto, Fuentes' doping operation brought in 8 million euro. Judging by Hamilton's charges, only a modest percentage of money paid to Fuentes was spent on the actual drugs. Most was spent on what essentially was a consulting fee. Profit margins must have been pretty good.

Either Fuentes lived the high life, spending nearly everything he made, or he got away with a substantial amount of money, enough that he should not have to be setting up shop again.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Sorry, Glenn, but in Spanish grammar it is ok to drop the subject.

In this case, we all know what subject Blanco was really referring to.

For those unfamiliar with such linguistic nuance, I have edited your post to add the complete Subject here.

Dave.

Dave – thanks for that! Now you owe me a keyboard.

 

[The Hitch]

In the four years before Operation Puerto, Fuentes' doping operation brought in 8 million euro. Judging by Hamilton's charges, only a modest percentage of money paid to Fuentes was spent on the actual drugs. Most was spent on what essentially was a consulting fee. Profit margins must have been pretty good.

Either Fuentes lived the high life, spending nearly everything he made, or he got away with a substantial amount of money, enough that he should not have to be setting up shop again.

So my 2 million figure was bang on.

Ps that post from 2007 was awesome. Definately goes into my mental list of links to give to people who say only cyclists dope.

To put it another way

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Right on, Jeebus...