Dropping implicated riders from the Giro

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maltiv said:
Seriously the Possini case could just be that he was living close to a doctor who was dealing drugs for example, we haven't seen anything that implies that he is guilty, have we? You might be investigated if you were close to a robbery but that doesn't make you a criminal...I still believe they should have excluded him from the team though but it's not a big deal, unless the investigation actually contains some sort of evidence.

That well be true. But what I'd like to see is some statement from Sky, a global communications giant, explaining why they felt it was OK to include him in the team, or indeed to keep him on the books.

There's nothing on their website about the case. They should be leading with Team Sky related news, getting their spin in first, not pretending the bad news doesn't exist. Not impressed.
 
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Captain_Cavman said:
There's nothing on their website about the case. They should be leading with Team Sky related news, getting their spin in first, not pretending the bad news doesn't exist. Not impressed.

they have released statements. Something about there no reason no to include him and they will monitor the situation
 
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Got a LINK?

And I was talking about the website.

not on the website. Statements like that they just give to the press, they dont actually put them themselves.

Dont have a link to hand, was some time over the weekend when I was on the road so was reading on my phone so not in my history. One of the giro articles had db quoted as saying "see what happens down the line"
 
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TeamSkyFans said:
not on the website. Statements like that they just give to the press, they dont actually put them themselves.

Dont have a link to hand, was some time over the weekend when I was on the road so was reading on my phone so not in my history. One of the giro articles had db quoted as saying "see what happens down the line"

It's still pretty unimpressive though, isn't it? I mean, given the comments DB made about profiles and the such like? It seems to me that once you're in, you're safe. Barry. Possoni. Others?

I find Sky's whole attitude to the investigation of Possoni utterly hypocritical. As CC and MJM say, you would expect a global media conglomerate to be better at communication than they are.

I wonder if Sean Yates can see the irony in his comments on the website regarding Possoni's Giro selection?
 
Mrs John Murphy said:
Perhaps lack of results means they are taking bigger chances. With PT licenses being so results driven they need riders who can get them points.

Maybe they've looked at other teams who have been brazen about doping and dopers ie Astana, HTC etc and said screw it.

The problem with that argument is that, at the time they rescued Plaza from Portugal (and signed Cobo too), they still had Valverde. They didn't have a lack of results, they'd just won a Grand Tour and finished top of the standings for teams in the UCI rankings. They did need a sponsor for 2011, but signing dubious riders is not exactly the best way to do that. Plaza rode for them before anyway.

Now, signing Ventoso in the 2010 off-season, maybe you have a point there, but yes, the only positives we can recall are Fertonani and Costa (who was acquitted anyway). Sticking with Valverde until the bitter end was only logical given that there was a loophole to keep him riding and they were sponsor-hunting.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
The problem with that argument is that, at the time they rescued Plaza from Portugal (and signed Cobo too), they still had Valverde. They didn't have a lack of results, they'd just won a Grand Tour and finished top of the standings for teams in the UCI rankings. They did need a sponsor for 2011, but signing dubious riders is not exactly the best way to do that. Plaza rode for them before anyway.

Now, signing Ventoso in the 2010 off-season, maybe you have a point there, but yes, the only positives we can recall are Fertonani and Costa (who was acquitted anyway). Sticking with Valverde until the bitter end was only logical given that there was a loophole to keep him riding and they were sponsor-hunting.

What would be your explanation behind the change?