burning said:Man, he is really going full Wiggo, he can definitely win this whole thing[/
Full Wiggo is a six month peak form so he aint there yet. That being said, Tom is obviously jacked up like there is no tomorrow.
What point are you trying to make here? All 4 of those DNF's were because of crashes/injury's.Benotti69 said:Domoulin has ridden 7 GTs before this Giro and only finished 3. Not a great record or a showing of potential for GTs.
As i said not showing GT potential.classicomano said:What point are you trying to make here? All 4 of those DNF's were because of crashes/injury's.Benotti69 said:Domoulin has ridden 7 GTs before this Giro and only finished 3. Not a great record or a showing of potential for GTs.
Good call.ontheroad said:In retrospect I think the comparisions with Wiggo are much too harsh. Tom has showed talent at a much earlier age. Wiggo only smashed it at around the 30 mark. Dumoulin does look good on a bike but cycling continues to defy logic sometimes.
Indurains first 9 3 week races, DNF x 5, 84, 92, 97, 47. People develop at different rates.Benotti69 said:As i said not showing GT potential.classicomano said:What point are you trying to make here? All 4 of those DNF's were because of crashes/injury's.Benotti69 said:Domoulin has ridden 7 GTs before this Giro and only finished 3. Not a great record or a showing of potential for GTs.
Alberto Contador hadn't showed GT potential before the 2007 Tdf either. You need to start somewhere. Is Dumoulin doping, probably. But we all know they all dope so I struggle to understand why a big deal is made of every rider who challenges for a GT podium. Agree with Fernandez. Spot on comment, I dropped in here to see the inevitable reaction and wasn't disappointedBenotti69 said:As i said not showing GT potential.classicomano said:What point are you trying to make here? All 4 of those DNF's were because of crashes/injury's.Benotti69 said:Domoulin has ridden 7 GTs before this Giro and only finished 3. Not a great record or a showing of potential for GTs.
Wiggins didn't focus on road until he was 27/28 though, and immediately came 4th in the Tour, which is better than Dumoulin has ever done prior to this.red_flanders said:Good call.ontheroad said:In retrospect I think the comparisions with Wiggo are much too harsh. Tom has showed talent at a much earlier age. Wiggo only smashed it at around the 30 mark. Dumoulin does look good on a bike but cycling continues to defy logic sometimes.
I would add that I'm not going to add him to Wiggo status after one climb, either. Let's see.
Ah, you just reminded me of all the glorious "Rolf er ren" jokes on the internet.Valv.Piti said:Tom is clean.
Especially if they discover EPO at some point during said development.Singer01 said:Indurains first 9 3 week races, DNF x 5, 84, 92, 97, 47. People develop at different rates.
Come on. Who buys this stuff?Brullnux said:Wiggins didn't focus on road until he was 27/28 though, and immediately came 4th in the Tour, which is better than Dumoulin has ever done prior to this.red_flanders said:Good call.ontheroad said:In retrospect I think the comparisions with Wiggo are much too harsh. Tom has showed talent at a much earlier age. Wiggo only smashed it at around the 30 mark. Dumoulin does look good on a bike but cycling continues to defy logic sometimes.
I would add that I'm not going to add him to Wiggo status after one climb, either. Let's see.
Did you just use Indurain as an example of natural rider development? Wow... Even Riis or Chiappucci would be a better example.Singer01 said:Indurains first 9 3 week races, DNF x 5, 84, 92, 97, 47. People develop at different rates.Benotti69 said:As i said not showing GT potential.classicomano said:What point are you trying to make here? All 4 of those DNF's were because of crashes/injury's.Benotti69 said:Domoulin has ridden 7 GTs before this Giro and only finished 3. Not a great record or a showing of potential for GTs.
Oh, me. Definitely. I mean nobody with the talent wants to win the Tour or shows any results until they FOCUS. Just last month a Cat 3 I know turned 40 and it was kind of like a mid-life crisis. He decided to "focus" and now he's hitting up Horner for advice and bugging JV for a contract.red_flanders said:Come on. Who buys this stuff?Brullnux said:Wiggins didn't focus on road until he was 27/28 though, and immediately came 4th in the Tour, which is better than Dumoulin has ever done prior to this.red_flanders said:Good call.ontheroad said:In retrospect I think the comparisions with Wiggo are much too harsh. Tom has showed talent at a much earlier age. Wiggo only smashed it at around the 30 mark. Dumoulin does look good on a bike but cycling continues to defy logic sometimes.
I would add that I'm not going to add him to Wiggo status after one climb, either. Let's see.
Agree.GraftPunk said:Cycling makes me LOL sometimes. On the upside at least other teams are catching up to Sky in terms of preparation to keep things interesting.
What? It's true. Wiggins was an excellent track cyclist. The transition was more out there than Dumorain, but not as much as some people are saying. Dumoulin went TT specialist to GT, wiggins went track to GT. Dumorain is probably better climber than wiggo ever was.red_flanders said:Come on. Who buys this stuff?Brullnux said:Wiggins didn't focus on road until he was 27/28 though, and immediately came 4th in the Tour, which is better than Dumoulin has ever done prior to this.red_flanders said:Good call.ontheroad said:In retrospect I think the comparisions with Wiggo are much too harsh. Tom has showed talent at a much earlier age. Wiggo only smashed it at around the 30 mark. Dumoulin does look good on a bike but cycling continues to defy logic sometimes.
I would add that I'm not going to add him to Wiggo status after one climb, either. Let's see.