Dumoulin.

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This guy is the re-incarnation of Wiggo. His TT on it's own is not a surprise. It's his climbing that is bemusing. It's the equivalent of the pure climbers like Nibalii/Quintana/Chaves finishing top 3 in a TT. Cycling continuing to defy Science.
 
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Domoulin has ridden 7 GTs before this Giro and only finished 3. Not a great record or a showing of potential for GTs.
 
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Cycling makes me LOL sometimes. On the upside at least other teams are catching up to Sky in terms of preparation to keep things interesting.
 
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In retrospect I think the comparisions with Wiggo are much too harsh. Tom has showed talent at a much earlier age. Wiggo only smashed it at around the 30 mark. Dumoulin does look good on a bike but cycling continues to defy logic sometimes.
 
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classicomano said:
Benotti69 said:
Domoulin has ridden 7 GTs before this Giro and only finished 3. Not a great record or a showing of potential for GTs.
What point are you trying to make here? All 4 of those DNF's were because of crashes/injury's.
As i said not showing GT potential.
 
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ontheroad said:
In retrospect I think the comparisions with Wiggo are much too harsh. Tom has showed talent at a much earlier age. Wiggo only smashed it at around the 30 mark. Dumoulin does look good on a bike but cycling continues to defy logic sometimes.
Good call.

I would add that I'm not going to add him to Wiggo status after one climb, either. Let's see.
 

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Benotti69 said:
classicomano said:
Benotti69 said:
Domoulin has ridden 7 GTs before this Giro and only finished 3. Not a great record or a showing of potential for GTs.
What point are you trying to make here? All 4 of those DNF's were because of crashes/injury's.
As i said not showing GT potential.
Indurains first 9 3 week races, DNF x 5, 84, 92, 97, 47. People develop at different rates.
 
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Benotti69 said:
classicomano said:
Benotti69 said:
Domoulin has ridden 7 GTs before this Giro and only finished 3. Not a great record or a showing of potential for GTs.
What point are you trying to make here? All 4 of those DNF's were because of crashes/injury's.
As i said not showing GT potential.
Alberto Contador hadn't showed GT potential before the 2007 Tdf either. You need to start somewhere. Is Dumoulin doping, probably. But we all know they all dope so I struggle to understand why a big deal is made of every rider who challenges for a GT podium. Agree with Fernandez. Spot on comment, I dropped in here to see the inevitable reaction and wasn't disappointed :rolleyes:
 
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red_flanders said:
ontheroad said:
In retrospect I think the comparisions with Wiggo are much too harsh. Tom has showed talent at a much earlier age. Wiggo only smashed it at around the 30 mark. Dumoulin does look good on a bike but cycling continues to defy logic sometimes.
Good call.

I would add that I'm not going to add him to Wiggo status after one climb, either. Let's see.
Wiggins didn't focus on road until he was 27/28 though, and immediately came 4th in the Tour, which is better than Dumoulin has ever done prior to this.
 
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Brullnux said:
red_flanders said:
ontheroad said:
In retrospect I think the comparisions with Wiggo are much too harsh. Tom has showed talent at a much earlier age. Wiggo only smashed it at around the 30 mark. Dumoulin does look good on a bike but cycling continues to defy logic sometimes.
Good call.

I would add that I'm not going to add him to Wiggo status after one climb, either. Let's see.
Wiggins didn't focus on road until he was 27/28 though, and immediately came 4th in the Tour, which is better than Dumoulin has ever done prior to this.
Come on. Who buys this stuff?
 
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Singer01 said:
Benotti69 said:
classicomano said:
Benotti69 said:
Domoulin has ridden 7 GTs before this Giro and only finished 3. Not a great record or a showing of potential for GTs.
What point are you trying to make here? All 4 of those DNF's were because of crashes/injury's.
As i said not showing GT potential.
Indurains first 9 3 week races, DNF x 5, 84, 92, 97, 47. People develop at different rates.
Did you just use Indurain as an example of natural rider development? Wow... Even Riis or Chiappucci would be a better example.

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red_flanders said:
Brullnux said:
red_flanders said:
ontheroad said:
In retrospect I think the comparisions with Wiggo are much too harsh. Tom has showed talent at a much earlier age. Wiggo only smashed it at around the 30 mark. Dumoulin does look good on a bike but cycling continues to defy logic sometimes.
Good call.

I would add that I'm not going to add him to Wiggo status after one climb, either. Let's see.
Wiggins didn't focus on road until he was 27/28 though, and immediately came 4th in the Tour, which is better than Dumoulin has ever done prior to this.
Come on. Who buys this stuff?
Oh, me. Definitely. I mean nobody with the talent wants to win the Tour or shows any results until they FOCUS. Just last month a Cat 3 I know turned 40 and it was kind of like a mid-life crisis. He decided to "focus" and now he's hitting up Horner for advice and bugging JV for a contract.

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GraftPunk said:
Cycling makes me LOL sometimes. On the upside at least other teams are catching up to Sky in terms of preparation to keep things interesting.
Agree.

At least with TD it's a guy with some results as a young pro. And a guy who actually looks decent on a bike. Looks like he ought to TT like this. And is decent to look at in general. Marketable. Unlike Dawg who brings little to the image of the sport.

I don't think TD is clean, but after what we've been subjected to from Sky, I can sort of give him a pass. YMMV.

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Hard days for the little pure climbers though. UCI needs to find them a place in the sport. Or Velon ought to instead of this Hammertime foolishness.
 
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red_flanders said:
Brullnux said:
red_flanders said:
ontheroad said:
In retrospect I think the comparisions with Wiggo are much too harsh. Tom has showed talent at a much earlier age. Wiggo only smashed it at around the 30 mark. Dumoulin does look good on a bike but cycling continues to defy logic sometimes.
Good call.

I would add that I'm not going to add him to Wiggo status after one climb, either. Let's see.
Wiggins didn't focus on road until he was 27/28 though, and immediately came 4th in the Tour, which is better than Dumoulin has ever done prior to this.
Come on. Who buys this stuff?
What? It's true. Wiggins was an excellent track cyclist. The transition was more out there than Dumorain, but not as much as some people are saying. Dumoulin went TT specialist to GT, wiggins went track to GT. Dumorain is probably better climber than wiggo ever was.
 

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