E3 BinckBank Classic - March 29, 2019

[Scarponi]

I wish I accidentally put a 100 on Stybar tonight

Forgot to get drunk?

Haha drunk
Me knows best

 

[Velolover2]

They got all the classics so far.

2017: The year of Gilbert
2018: The year of Terpstra
2019: The year of Stybar

When one QS rider steps down, there is always another to take over.

 

[tomorrow]

Re:

Great tactics from QS once again. Despite his two late attacks, no real shock that Stybar won that having been able to sit on for so long.

it's not tactics any more, when they do it every race it's just routine, I just don't get, like someone earlier in the discussion, what for were the CC, Bora and others teams saving the domestics on the downhill to paterberg, it was obvious it will split there, they lost like 20s there

 

[RedheadDane]

Re:

They got all the classics so far.

2017: The year of Gilbert
2018: The year of Terpstra
2019: The year of Stybar

When one QS rider steps down, there is always another to take over.

Maybe they're hiding them under the (Quickstep) floors.

 

[DFA123]

Nice ride by Politt - he looks like he has the potential to become a contender. Made the break, continued to take decent pulls in every group he was in, and able to beat Trentin to the line.

 

[Jancouver]

Great win!

Who's laughing again!

 

[DFA123]

Re: Re:

Great tactics from QS once again. Despite his two late attacks, no real shock that Stybar won that having been able to sit on for so long.

it's not tactics any more, when they do it every race it's just routine, I just don't get, like someone earlier in the discussion, what for were the CC, Bora and others teams saving the domestics on the downhill to paterberg, it was obvious it will split there, they lost like 20s there

Maybe the tactic was that they didn't actually want to catch Jungels too early. They wanted to catch him in the last 10km, otherwise a succession of fresher QST riders would just keep attacking. And it wasn't too far from working.

 

[Bardamu]

Sagan again with a subpar performance. He'll probably win Gent-Wevelgem.

 

[tobydawq]

Re:

Like i said, Stybar was laughing his *** off.

I didn't see him laugh. But fair enough, you must have a higher definition on your tv.

 

[Bardamu]

Every team with more than one strong rider should've responded to Jungels directly btw, it's not like QST and Jungels have never done this before.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Re: Re:

Great tactics from QS once again. Despite his two late attacks, no real shock that Stybar won that having been able to sit on for so long.

it's not tactics any more, when they do it every race it's just routine, I just don't get, like someone earlier in the discussion, what for were the CC, Bora and others teams saving the domestics on the downhill to paterberg, it was obvious it will split there, they lost like 20s there

The other teams should hire riders from DQ so that they can neutralize the DQ tactics

 

[Valv.Piti]

Sagan should feel a bit worried after this performance, but he can suddenly find missing shape pretty quickly.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Another no-show from Trek and Dimension Data

 

[Vroome.exe]

I think it's much better when DQS wins everything not because they have the strongest rider, but because of the whole team and their tactics. At least they make the race hard and interesting. Of course when Sagan and GVA were winning everything nobody cried about their dominance.

 

[Bardamu]

Re:

I think it's much better when DQS wins everything not because they have the strongest rider, but because of the whole team and their tactics. At least they make the race hard and interesting. Of course when Sagan and GVA were winning everything nobody cried about their dominance.

But this wasn't interesting.

 

[DFA123]

Re: Re:

I think it's much better when DQS wins everything not because they have the strongest rider, but because of the whole team and their tactics. At least they make the race hard and interesting. Of course when Sagan and GVA were winning everything nobody cried about their dominance.

But this wasn't interesting.

At least the last 5km were reasonably interesting. Which is 5km more than almost every cobbled classic last season.

 

[tobydawq]

Re:

I think it's much better when DQS wins everything not because they have the strongest rider, but because of the whole team and their tactics. At least they make the race hard and interesting. Of course when Sagan and GVA were winning everything nobody cried about their dominance.

I was sick of GVA's dominance. And cried about it.

When was Sagan winning everything?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Re: Re:

Like i said, Stybar was laughing his *** off.

I didn't see him laugh. But fair enough, you must have a higher definition on your tv.

4k buddy

The moment Stybar was able to follow Van Avermaet's attack, it was clear that either Jungels would stay away, or if he got caught, Stybar would get a free ride to the final few kilometers. Jungles would always be able to keep the pace high enough to prevent the other group from coming back.

I 'm not particularly fond of DQS winning everything, but they have the best team. Simple. Always an extra guy that doesn't have to work and can profit off the work of others. I can live with Stybar winning it. He's a very nice bloke and he's paid his dues. I would have liked Van Aert or Van Avermaet to win more, because they worked the most.

 

[Vroome.exe]

Re: Re:

I think it's much better when DQS wins everything not because they have the strongest rider, but because of the whole team and their tactics. At least they make the race hard and interesting. Of course when Sagan and GVA were winning everything nobody cried about their dominance.

But this wasn't interesting.

Then I don't know what you expect from a race like this, I mean not every race is PR 2016. DQS at least guarantee action from far out. Without them Kristoff would probably win half these races.

 

[tomorrow]

Re:

Sagan should feel a bit worried after this performance, but he can suddenly find missing shape pretty quickly.

we'll see on sunday, if something, sagan doesn't seem to bother with past result, either good or not good. And GvA in some kind of a shape is also good news for him. WVA and Bettiol too actually. The more riders in par with DQS guys, the better chance they can neutralize them, and this year it will be even more difficult, because Stybar is in monster form and imho and better in the helingens than any of them, whereas last year Terpstra and Gilbert before were kind of a underdogs.

 

[Bardamu]

Re: Re:

I think it's much better when DQS wins everything not because they have the strongest rider, but because of the whole team and their tactics. At least they make the race hard and interesting. Of course when Sagan and GVA were winning everything nobody cried about their dominance.

But this wasn't interesting.

Then I don't know what you expect from a race like this, I mean not every race is PR 2016. DQS at least guarantee action from far out. Without them Kristoff would probably win half these races.

Not a fan of one team neutralising the entire race.

 

[tobydawq]

Re: Re:

Like i said, Stybar was laughing his *** off.

I didn't see him laugh. But fair enough, you must have a higher definition on your tv.

4k buddy

The moment Stybar was able to follow Van Avermaet's attack, it was clear that either Jungels would stay away, or if he got caught, Stybar would get a free ride to the final few kilometers. Jungles would always be able to keep the pace high enough to prevent the other group from coming back.

I 'm not particularly fond of DQS winning everything, but they have the best team. Simple. Always an extra guy that doesn't have to work and can profit off the work of others. I can live with Stybar winning it. He's a very nice bloke and he's paid his dues. I would have liked Van Aert or Van Avermaet to win more, because they worked the most.

I'm not saying it wasn't a perfect situation for him, you just made it sound (to me) like the others were stupid in reeling in Jungels when Stybar was sitting in the wheels. And that it was a given he would win in the end. I don't think it was a no-brainer but he was pretty dominant in the sprint, I have to admit.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Re: Re:

Like i said, Stybar was laughing his *** off.

I didn't see him laugh. But fair enough, you must have a higher definition on your tv.

4k buddy

The moment Stybar was able to follow Van Avermaet's attack, it was clear that either Jungels would stay away, or if he got caught, Stybar would get a free ride to the final few kilometers. Jungles would always be able to keep the pace high enough to prevent the other group from coming back.

I 'm not particularly fond of DQS winning everything, but they have the best team. Simple. Always an extra guy that doesn't have to work and can profit off the work of others. I can live with Stybar winning it. He's a very nice bloke and he's paid his dues. I would have liked Van Aert or Van Avermaet to win more, because they worked the most.

I'm not saying it wasn't a perfect situation for him, you just made it sound (to me) like the others were stupid in reeling in Jungels when Stybar was sitting in the wheels. And that it was a given he would win in the end. I don't think it was a no-brainer but he was pretty dominant in the sprint, I have to admit.

He was able to sit in 4-8th position for the final 35k, while Van Aert, Bettiol, Van Avermaet had to do a lot of work to close 45 seconds on Jungels.

Anyway, i still crack up every time Van Avermaet pronounces Jungels as the plural of one jungle. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[jaylew]

Re:

I think it's much better when DQS wins everything not because they have the strongest rider, but because of the whole team and their tactics. At least they make the race hard and interesting. Of course when Sagan and GVA were winning everything nobody cried about their dominance.

This is multiple years worth of dominance. Besides, dominance by one rider is far more appealing and historically relevant than by one team.

 

[SafeBet]

Re:

Another no-show from Trek and Dimension Data

Yeah I was checking the results and it was stunning.
Valgren was DD's best placed rider: 39th.
Degenkolb was Trek's best placed rider: 22nd with Stuyven and Theuns almost invisible for the entire race.
Sky was also a no show with no one inside the top50.

I don't think the problem is Deuceninck being too strong (well not entirely). Several teams are underperforming badly.
With all that said, I enjoyed the race. Groups all over the place chasing a 60 km attack, not that bad if you ask me.

Hats off to Marc Hirschi, we knew he was talented but that was a monster performance for a neo-pro.