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damian13ster

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roundabout said:
To me it feels like the implicit message of acting responsibly to avoid lockdowns is ignored in favor of reading it as an ok to act as normal, because the lockdowns are worse.
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I see it completely differently. Act responsibly, wear masks, wash hands, don't touch face, etc. And stop spreading fear because majority of people are dying from other reasons: poverty, cancer, strokes, mental health, that are significantly amplified by the lockdowns and the fear being propagated. Be vigilant - don't be afraid.

But clearly the way one interprets the message is dependent on their own predetermined opinion. Mine is that consequences of lockdowns cause 10x deaths than lack of such actions, and it is starting to look like WHO finally realized it. Too bad it was 6 months too late and probably cost millions of lives
 
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I'm seriously worried about the Vuelta now. The Giro reaching Milan isn't sure either. Vegni won't pull the plug, but the goverment might. The RvV seems safe, although indoor sports have just been banned in Belgiim.
 
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I think the Giro may end on Sunday before the second rest day (which potentially could eliminate most GC contenders making the outcome unfair). The TT and Piancavallo to decide the race but they should inform the riders at least 2 days before to have a proper fight.
 
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hayneplane

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Krzysztof_O said:
I think the Giro may end on Sunday before the second rest day (which potentially could eliminate most GC contenders making the outcome unfair). The TT and Piancavallo to decide the race but they should inform the riders at least 2 days before to have a proper fight.
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Whether or not this happens its a plausible scenario and one the riders and teams should be planning for when deciding on their strategy for Sunday (ITT will be full gas effort anyway). Getting into Pink asap should be the aim for every rider in contention.
 
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I don't think that Sunweb (mainly) and the other teams will only test in the rest day.
Especially considering we already had 3 positive cases on riders (interesting enough, all of them are amongst the top from the startlist). So as long as we make it to the weekend without news for posives, I'm confident enough that we'll go to Milan. Especially because Italy is doing still fine compared to most of Europe.

Vuelta in the other hand is at risk, but without checking the numbers, seems like Spain flattened the curve a bit, so as long as Vuelta starts, I think it's safe.


That said, why did they waited so long for the restart ? I mean, I think they released the new calendar in April and many European countries had their cases going down already in April, and many scientists raised voices that in summer the situation will easier to control. So, perhaps, they could start in early July despite travel restrictions in few countries.
 
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djpbaltimore

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The rapid antigen test is not the best choice for finding positives... if that is the goal of the process.

The story about the shared buffets in the 'bubble' are horrifying. The whole situation is shambolic.
 
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djpbaltimore said:
The rapid antigen test is not the best choice for finding positives... if that is the goal of the process.

The story about the shared buffets in the 'bubble' are horrifying. The whole situation is shambolic.
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Yeah I was shocked when I read about the buffets... are they really that stupid?
 
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Yes, it makes you wonder how could they have not worked better at keeping bubbles and non-bubbles apart at hotels, etc, like the Tour (apparently) did.
 
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the shared buffets thing sounds weird. wonder what exactly was meant by that? I stayed in a hotel during corona times (admittedly in late July when things were different and not in Italy) and the way dining was handled felt relatively secure
 
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roundabout said:
the shared buffets thing sounds weird. wonder what exactly was meant by that? I stayed in a hotel during corona times (admittedly in late July when things were different and not in Italy) and the way dining was handled felt relatively secure
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I stayed in a couple of hotels in Italy in August and there were buffets, but guests weren't allowed close to them. Staff would always serve the food at the table.
 
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Shared buffets (if that was the case) is as much a team management failure as a race management failure. Maybe more so. Why are you letting your riders do that ? Why are you (as the hotel customer) not insisting on separated dining ?
 
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mathews retest being negative shows again how potentially damning this all is... but there is no other way
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RCS did re-tests as well though before excluding the riders. So normally this should make false positives almost impossible to happen.
 
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it was on Wielerflits

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Matthews test negatief bij hertest

Team Sunweb heeft gisteren na de positieve Corona-test van Michael Matthews in de Giro d’italia nog een snelle hertest bij de Australiër afgenomen. Daarbij testte Matthews negatief. Dit kan duiden op een false-positive test die op de rustdag in de Ronde van Italië is afgenomen. Een PCR-test...
www.wielerflits.nl www.wielerflits.nl

Jumbo confirmed that RCS did a re-test for Kruijswijk though, and also in Yates case it was clearly communicated, that two tests were done (first antigen, then PCR for confirmation). So I wouldn't jump to a "false positive" conclusion so quickly - it's actually more likely that Sunweb's quick (re) re-test was not correct
 
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it was on Wielerflits

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Matthews test negatief bij hertest

Team Sunweb heeft gisteren na de positieve Corona-test van Michael Matthews in de Giro d’italia nog een snelle hertest bij de Australiër afgenomen. Daarbij testte Matthews negatief. Dit kan duiden op een false-positive test die op de rustdag in de Ronde van Italië is afgenomen. Een PCR-test...
www.wielerflits.nl www.wielerflits.nl

Jumbo confirmed that RCS did a re-test for Kruijswijk though, and also in Yates case it was clearly communicated, that two tests were done (first antigen, then PCR for confirmation). So I wouldn't jump to a "false positive" conclusion so quickly - it's actually more likely that Sunweb's quick (re) re-test was not correct
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Says who, you?

It's been a constant for months now, i.e. a yo-yo back & forth between positive & negative tests for everyone (no matter who they are) whilst none get sick.

Let the carousel of insanity continue & we'll see where this ends.
 
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Says who, you?
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no, it's just maths. False positives do happen of course, but the chance to have two (antigen+PCR) of them succeeding each other is something like 1-10000, while there is around a 1-50 chance that the single antigen test was wrong
 
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