Emanuel Buchmann thread

[ppanther92]

Lets face it - he will ride another invisible TdF. Like last year. Bad decision.

 

[Pinot's goat]

Lets face it - he will ride another invisible TdF. Like last year. Bad decision.

He was injured last year because of the Dauphine crash.

 

[ppanther92]

He was injured last year because of the Dauphine crash.

And he peaked for this year's Giro where he crashed out. In my opinion Buchmann is rider that can be (very) good when he has an unhindered preperation. He is good a peaking for races. But this is clearly not the case. For Vuelta it would have been at least easier possible.

Totally expect him to finish somwhere around 30th in GC.

 

[Remy55]

And he peaked for this year's Giro where he crashed out. In my opinion Buchmann is rider that can be (very) good when he has an unhindered preperation. He is good a peaking for races. But this is clearly not the case. For Vuelta it would have been at least easier possible.

Totally expect him to finish somwhere around 30th in GC.

That is totally possible.

I looked at the Giro and his schedule: since his last start and the first stage of the Tour will be passed more than a month. Additionally he missed the third week with most of of the really hard stages on subsequent days. In the first 16 days of the Giro there where only five days he had to go really deep.
Under this circumstances a good preparation for the Tour should be managable and I don't think they would send him if he is not in shape. Denk even said that they learned from the mistaces form last year.

 

[Faserr]

He is good a peaking for races. But this is clearly not the case. For Vuelta it would have been at least easier possible.

Totally expect him to finish somwhere around 30th in GC.

I don't think so. If he wants a perfect shape he perhaps has to peak perfectly, but that didn't turn out good in the last two years. 2019 he was solid or really good all year.

Win in Mallorca
4th UAE
3th Basque Country
7th Romandie
3th Dauphiné
4th TDF
8th Lombardia

 

[geisterhome]

The thing is this year GC field is very weak. Let‘s assume Buchmann is in top shape, who is clearly better than him?
Roglic, Pogacar, Thomas and Carapaz. Maybe MAL, but he is even worse at TT. So let one of them crash or have a really bad day and he could fight for the podium.

The big question remains how his shape is, I think we will know after the Grand-Bornand stage.

Yea the question is his shape, I read an article where he was saying that he actually had some issues after the crash and had to deal with kneepain for a while. Considering that I have some doubts about his shape.

As I have written above I suspect this to be a move to appeal to the german audience more than anything. Somehow this feels like last year all over again. I have actually looked at some of his powerfiles from last years Tour and its not like he was that much worse there compared to this years Giro. Roughly he had 20w less during those first Tour mountain stages when he was still trying for the GC. So just a mild drop in form can make a large difference.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Yeah, this will be mainly down to the fact that with a questionable Ackermann and without Kämna or Schachmann being visible a lot in breakaways they need a German flagship that gives them coverage.
The Tour is by far the only event in Germany that gets frequent mainstream coverage so even if it makes more sense to have him go only to the vuelta from a sporting perspective, it helps the team more from an economic viewpoint.

Having said that, this route does really really not suit him. He´ll lose about 3 minutes just in the TTs to other GC contenders. His biggest hope is probably that JV, Ineos and UAE go full out attacking on each other on the big mountain stages that will create big splits where he could benefit sticking with the top guys. Because if its mainly cho cho trains with 10-20 second gaps at the end he´ll never make enough time up from his losses in the TTs, especially given that he doesn`t really have a punch.

 

[geisterhome]

Yeah, this will be mainly down to the fact that with a questionable Ackermann and without Kämna or Schachmann being visible a lot in breakaways they need a German flagship that gives them coverage.
The Tour is by far the only event in Germany that gets frequent mainstream coverage so even if it makes more sense to have him go only to the vuelta from a sporting perspective, it helps the team more from an economic viewpoint.

The thing is him riding the Tour will just get them significant coverage if he is riding for the GC, as soon as he his out of contention the interest will crumble massively, just as it was last year after the pyrenees. Back then he was also supposed to go for a stage win but nobody cared anymore. You dont get the casual german cycling/ Tdf fan in front of the TV every day with the prospect that Emanuel Buchmann might be in a breakaway one day.

 

[Marco-Sun]

Does anyone know if he lost time due to the crash today or if he just couldn't follow the pace?

Want him to ride for Polkadot jersey but I guess that will not happen...

 

[Faserr]

He rode all day at the back of the bunch and he was held up by the last crash. He wasn't in the front group when they hit the last climb. Hopefully he looses more time and can ride in a offensive way.

 

[geisterhome]

He rode all day at the back of the bunch and he was held up by the last crash. He wasn't in the front group when they hit the last climb. Hopefully he looses more time and can ride in a offensive way.

A rider like him needs to be in top shape or massive luck to win a stage even from an escape group, a sprint or explosive attacks are not in his repertoire. All he can do is ride everyone out of the saddle on a long climb.
That being said he had to take a long break from training after the Giro He didnt post any rides on Strava from the end of his Giro till the 14th of June and after reading an article stating how his knee was bothering until about that time I actually believe he didnt do proper riding till then. With that kind of preperation I doubt he will have the legs to do much. IMO the talk about keeping one eye on the GC was just to create at least a bit of media hype in Germany.

 

[geisterhome]

He is way below his best right now, on the Ventoux before he got dropped he managed 350w over 12 mins. At the Giro it was more like 390 to 370w (e.g. the last bit of the Zoncolan...) over roughly that time. That performance is actually worse than what he was showing during last years TdF before he gave up on the GC.
That level is no way enough to go for stage wins in the mountains. I have no idea what they were thinking bringing him to the Tour. Helping Keldermann to cruise into a 7th place which nobody will take notice of cant be much of a reason as the kind of help he can deliver right now could be done by a lot of riders (who couldnt have targeted e.g. Vuelta Podium later this year)

 

[Remy55]

He is way below his best right now, on the Ventoux before he got dropped he managed 350w over 12 mins. At the Giro it was more like 390 to 370w (e.g. the last bit of the Zoncolan...) over roughly that time. That performance is actually worse than what he was showing during last years TdF before he gave up on the GC.
That level is no way enough to go for stage wins in the mountains. I have no idea what they were thinking bringing him to the Tour. Helping Keldermann to cruise into a 7th place which nobody will take notice of cant be much of a reason as the kind of help he can deliver right now could be done by a lot of riders (who couldnt have targeted e.g. Vuelta Podium later this year)

He writes on Instagram he is not feeling healthy since stage 8 and because of that he is not able to reach his normal level.

 

[geisterhome]

Curious to see what the next season will bring for him.

The last 2 years have been nothing short of terrible for him. So bad actually that I find it worth of a short write up.

After starting off well in 2020 he had his first crash and DNF during the UAE Tour. After showing great promise the Dauphine ended the same way. This carried over to the Tdf, a race he shouldnt have participated IMO in after his crash and lack of form due to it. He didnt recover for the rest of the season and couldnt start another race.


His 2021 started in the UAE, he was in decent shape and would have been comfortably placed in the top 10 overall if he didnt lose over 8mins in the crosswinds of stage 1.

Then he did the Strade Bianche, which he finished in 40th place. Which is ok I guess since this is not really a race that suits him but after his Giro gravel performance maybe something better would have been possible there as well. I don't know any details how it went down though that day.

He countinued his season at the Iztulia of the Basque country, just like at the Tour of the UEA he would have had all chances of a decent top 10 placing (his watt values looked impressive) if he didnt fall back in a decent of the last stage.

Then it was time for the his main race of the season, the Giro. The weather wasn't on his side for most of it but still he had very good chances to reach his goal of a podium spot, until he crashed one more time...

His next race were the national championships where he reached a 4th place. Not too bad, but finishing behind the powerhouses of Jonas Koch and Georg Zimmermann somewhat puts it into perspective as well.

Next onto the TdF, I didnt think at the time that starting there made a lot of sense and being more of a PR move. The chance of placing high in the GC seemed slim, I dont see him as a stage hunter unless he is in top shape and idk if supporting a Wilco Keldermann in his usual spectacular hunt for a place in the top 10 is really a task a team needs to spend their best climber on. Anyways, his form wasnt amazing, then he got sick and went rather unoticed for most of the race. Maybe it was a good preperation for his 2nd main goal of the season, the olympics at least?

Well, it didnt really matter, his roommate got a positive corona test the day before the race, Emu had to start the olympic road race after a night without sleep and came in on 29th place.

After that he also caught corona and thus a 71th place in Milan Torino was his most outstanding result for the rest of the season.

 

[Earns1985]

Curious to see what the next season will bring for him.

The last 2 years have been nothing short of terrible for him. So bad actually that I find it worth of a short write up.

After starting off well in 2020 he had his first crash and DNF during the UAE Tour. After showing great promise the Dauphine ended the same way. This carried over to the Tdf, a race he shouldnt have participated IMO in after his crash and lack of form due to it. He didnt recover for the rest of the season and couldnt start another race.


His 2021 started in the UAE, he was in decent shape and would have been comfortably placed in the top 10 overall if he didnt lose over 8mins in the crosswinds of stage 1.

Then he did the Strade Bianche, which he finished in 40th place. Which is ok I guess since this is not really a race that suits him but after his Giro gravel performance maybe something better would have been possible there as well. I don't know any details how it went down though that day.

He countinued his season at the Iztulia of the Basque country, just like at the Tour of the UEA he would have had all chances of a decent top 10 placing (his watt values looked impressive) if he didnt fall back in a decent of the last stage.

Then it was time for the his main race of the season, the Giro. The weather wasn't on his side for most of it but still he had very good chances to reach his goal of a podium spot, until he crashed one more time...

His next race were the national championships where he reached a 4th place. Not too bad, but finishing behind the powerhouses of Jonas Koch and Georg Zimmermann somewhat puts it into perspective as well.

Next onto the TdF, I didnt think at the time that starting there made a lot of sense and being more of a PR move. The chance of placing high in the GC seemed slim, I dont see him as a stage hunter unless he is in top shape and idk if supporting a Wilco Keldermann in his usual spectacular hunt for a place in the top 10 is really a task a team needs to spend their best climber on. Anyways, his form wasnt amazing, then he got sick and went rather unoticed for most of the race. Maybe it was a good preperation for his 2nd main goal of the season, the olympics at least?

Well, it didnt really matter, his roommate got a positive corona test the day before the race, Emu had to start the olympic road race after a night without sleep and came in on 29th place.

After that he also caught corona and thus a 71th place in Milan Torino was his most outstanding result for the rest of the season.

Like you said, the last two seasons had been pretty bad for him.

I still see potential in him, but the bad thing is that he is very vulnerable to crashes and bad weather. And unlike other riders it seems that one crash per season could ruin a whole season for him.

In 2020 he crashed out of Dauphine and in 2021 he crashed out of the giro. Unlike other riders like Roglic, who wins after a bad crash at the tour, the Olympic TT and the Vuelta, Buchmann fails to achieve a good result for the whole rest of the season. It is fair to say that his team also played a role with the race planning for this case, but really good riders also would have made more out of it than Buchmann did.

 

[geisterhome]

Like you said, the last two seasons had been pretty bad for him.

I still see potential in him, but the bad thing is that he is very vulnerable to crashes and bad weather. And unlike other riders it seems that one crash per season could ruin a whole season for him.

In 2020 he crashed out of Dauphine and in 2021 he crashed out of the giro. Unlike other riders like Roglic, who wins after a bad crash at the tour, the Olympic TT and the Vuelta, Buchmann fails to achieve a good result for the whole rest of the season. It is fair to say that his team also played a role with the race planning for this case, but really good riders also would have made more out of it than Buchmann did.

Just seems like a really fragile guy right. Could it be that ultra skinny riders like him are less resistant to adversities like crashes, illness etc?

That being said does anyone know what happened to him at the Tirreno? Seems like his worst performance this year after doing at least somewhat ok the first few races, he always used to be in good shape early in the season.

 

[Filippo_3467]

Maybe that's a more broader point that just Buchmann, but the horrible, horrible start of the season for Bora is really something to watch out for. Basically almost every ridder that raced last year for them is in absolute catastrophic form. The wanted to go into the season with a lot of success. Ok Vlasov and Kämna did great in some early season races and Higuita has a decent uphill sprint. But in most races they are maybe the weakest team in the race. Their classic squad gets destroyed by every pro conti team. They have basically no one who can compete in sprint right now. Kelderman, Buchmann and Konrad are nowhere near their normal level. Same for Großschartner and Schachmann before they had to interrupt their racing. So All in all it's really bad and I don't want to be too pesimistic, but the bulk of the important races are in the next weeks and months and I honestly don't see the really competing in right now.

 

[tobydawq]

Maybe that's a more broader point that just Buchmann, but the horrible, horrible start of the season for Bora is really something to watch out for. Basically almost every ridder that raced last year for them is in absolute catastrophic form. The wanted to go into the season with a lot of success. Ok Vlasov and Kämna did great in some early season races and Higuita has a decent uphill sprint. But in most races they are maybe the weakest team in the race. Their classic squad gets destroyed by every pro conti team. They have basically no one who can compete in sprint right now. Kelderman, Buchmann and Konrad are nowhere near their normal level. Same for Großschartner and Schachmann before they had to interrupt their racing. So All in all it's really bad and I don't want to be too pesimistic, but the bulk of the important races are in the next weeks and months and I honestly don't see the really competing in right now.

Hindley was decent in Tirreno too.

And I think Schachmann was sick in PN, so that was obviously not his real level, but yes, it hasn't been close to impressive.

 

[Remy55]

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[ppanther92]

Looks a bit like a one hit wonder already. Would be the 3rd invisible season in a row.

 

[Netserk]

Looks a bit like a one hit wonder already. Would be the 3rd invisible season in a row.

He was only invisible in 2020 after he crashed out of Dauphiné.

 

[ppanther92]

He was only invisible in 2020 after he crashed out of Dauphiné.

Thats true but a 3rd at one Dauphine mountain stage certainly does not make your season when you got 4th at the Tour previously.

 

[geisterhome]

Was he sick recently?

Otherwise he seems in a downward spiral right now. At first it a lot could be blamed on bad luck but realisticly he had one good performance since his crash that the Dauphine 2020, which was that gravel stage last Giro. Before this year most of his results were still somewhat acceptable but has has shown in 2022 is on the lowest level since he turned pro. Not too long ago he was a safe bet for top ten finishes in Races like TR and TBC.

Few years ago there was this group of german riders (Schachmann, Buchmann, Politt, Ackermann,...) who were all approaching their prime years but those guys have been regressing ever since.

Schachmann was still going ok till the first half of last season, although it already became obvious he wouldnt turn into that starrider I though he had to potential to.

Politt won a Tour Stage and the Deutschland Tour last but he was supposed to be a contender for the cobbled classics and he seems to have completely lost it.

Ackermann doesn't win sprints anymore.

Kämna is fighting his own demons and we can be happy he will keep his head straight and go on to win a stage here and here.

 

[Remy55]

Buchmann had a really bad Covid infection in November, he had high fever for 5 days. Additionally he got sick now at the last stage of Itzulia.

Since his crash at Dauphine 2020 he never reached his top level again.

 

[geisterhome]

Buchmann had a really bad Covid infection in November, he had high fever for 5 days. Additionally he got sick now at the last stage of Itzulia.

Since his crash at Dauphine 2020 he never reached his top level again.

He looked damn strong there, if he didn't crash and all else went well he would have podiumed at the Tour I'm sure beating Richie Porte was well within his limits then.

I was just looking at his 2019 season. 1st,2nd (Mallorca races), 4th (GC UAE),7th (GC TdR), 4th (GC Dauphine), 4th (GC TdF),4th (Gran Piemonte), 8th (Lombardia)... only a handful minor races he didnt finish in the top 10. That guy was close to flying not too long ago and delivered pretty much nothing coming close ever since.