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For Bora I guess the issue is that they have Sagan who is a bonafide superstar and Ackermann who is a consistent winner who are both there until the end of next year (that's as long as they have Buchmann for afaik?). Schachmann meanwhile is clearly the long term bet being there another 4 years. There's a lot of one day and sprint talent and assembling a great squad of stage hunters + consistent winners can do you well across a big chunk of the season and net you more positives than having a good GC rider who can be a bit anonymous.

Buchmann's best bet is to get out and win some stages or contest the polka dot jersey now. He was unlucky with the crash and what that did to his prep, but if he's not pulling out he needs to do more than just see the race out.
But the only thing anybody in Germany who's not already a hardcore cycling fan would care about is a Tour podium, best a possible win. Or maybe a Giro win. Schachmann would not be my best bet for that. It's either Buchmann or in the future Kämna or someone entirely else. Even if Schachmann would become world champion nobody would care. And they are very clearly going for the German audience. Apart from a few people hardly cared about Kittel and he has been pretty successful at the Tour.
Buchmann can try something, but I doubt he will win anything in this Tour. He's clearly only hanging on and since he's not punchy how is he going to win any of those stages? Dots would be the only possibility, but even for that he's probably not strong enough now, just as Pinot.

P.S: Among the people I know I am the only one who watches the Tour, not even daring to speak of other races. Maybe I am a bit blind here and there are groups of people in Germany who are different.
 
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It's strange though how Denk seems to have given up on Buchmann considering the value of a Tour podium by a German rider. For the next couple of years he is the best bet to do so while hardly requiring a miracle if he keeps his level.
 
They just signed Kelderman. So it´s very likely that they will try to improve their GC results in GTs. Not sure what happens to Majka but I think Buchmann will get another chance with full support of the team. Obviously not in this years Vuelta (Ackermann will bring his sprint train) but maybe in next years Giro.
 
I don't think that quote means that they lost faith in Buchmann. It was bad luck and I don't think Bora has much better options for the next two years.
Ackermann has a really bad shedule this year and they promised him the Tour de France next year, like they did for Bennett before he was leaving. So I am sure that Ackermann is at the Tour de France 2021 and he can definately win stages like Ewan and Bennett. They need more then one rider to support Ackermann and that's why they can't bring a big support team for Buchmann.
Buchmann should go for the Vuealta this year and try to make big impression there. I think he is allowed to ride the Tour next year then. Perhaps with a smaller support team for him. Hopefully he doesn't have bad luck again, because there will be pig pressure.
 
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Ackermann has a really bad shedule this year and they promised him the Tour de France next year, like they did for Bennett before he was leaving. So I am sure that Ackermann is at the Tour de France 2021 and he can definately win stages like Ewan and Bennett. They need more then one rider to support Ackermann and that's why they can't bring a big support team for Buchmann.
The real question should be, are Ackermann and Sagan compatible to race the tour together?

If I was Bora-boss I would've planned this for Tour next year:
Ackermann + 2 lead outs
Sagan (tell him to not contest in sprints, bring break away Sagan)
Oss or Pöstlberger
Buchmann
Kämna
Muhlberger or Grosschartner

Tell Schachmann to focus on Ardennes/Giro + Olympics.
 
But the only thing anybody in Germany who's not already a hardcore cycling fan would care about is a Tour podium, best a possible win. Or maybe a Giro win. Schachmann would not be my best bet for that. It's either Buchmann or in the future Kämna or someone entirely else. Even if Schachmann would become world champion nobody would care. And they are very clearly going for the German audience. Apart from a few people hardly cared about Kittel and he has been pretty successful at the Tour.
Buchmann can try something, but I doubt he will win anything in this Tour. He's clearly only hanging on and since he's not punchy how is he going to win any of those stages? Dots would be the only possibility, but even for that he's probably not strong enough now, just as Pinot.

P.S: Among the people I know I am the only one who watches the Tour, not even daring to speak of other races. Maybe I am a bit blind here and there are groups of people in Germany who are different.

Yea absolutley, all germany cares about when it comes to cycling is if there is someone contending for a high overall placing in the Tour. Already this year you could find an update about Emus health in the news almost everyday. Sprint victories or a green jersey won't move the needle one bit.
 
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The indirect quotation from Denk from the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung above says nothing special about Buchmann's future role in the team. The sporting leadership is aware of Buchmann's physical sensitivity. If everything does not go according to plan in preparation, there are consequences.
Denk also mentioned that Buchmann was the strongest after Roglic at Dauphine. He is still kinda young for a CG cyclist and he is german. I am not worried at all. I would really be happy to see Buchmann at the Vuelta ngl.

In the background the management seems to dream that Schachmann could perhaps become a driver for grand tours. Maybe difficult to imagine, but the statements go in this direction at least to try everything with Schachmann.

With Politt's transfer, Bora-Hansgrohe has a certain security through to look closer at Sagan's results in the next months. Sagan was the defining face of the team for many successful years as the extraordinary driver he is. But he is not getting any younger. Politt can be paid at least five times with Sagans salary, I would assume.

Kelderman and Politt are also useful when it comes to a TTT (Politt as well for leadout in sprints). It looks to me as if they want to position themselves more broadly in this area in order to be able to offer their leader everything for the overall classification that is necessary.
 
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He could not regenerate after the tour. He got also sick during the tour a bit and probably should have quit.
Without a good training block his team did not believe that he clould ride with the best at the vuelta.
Full focus on 2021.
 
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He could not regenerate after the tour. He got also sick during the tour a bit and probably should have quit.
Without a good training block his team did not believe that he clould ride with the best at the vuelta.
Full focus on 2021.

His team is riding him into the ground right now. First they brought him to the tour when he was injured and miles away from top shape. Then they left him in the race to the very end for what reason really? That he can take 3 turns in the wind that one stage for Peter Sagan and that it finishes him for the rest of the year at least?

They did pretty much the same with Schachmann. Bringing him to the Tour with a broken collar bone. And instead of giving him the recovery time he needs he had a tour were he performed well below his abilities and then wasnt able to do much after the tour either.

Team Bora is quickly becoming the new Team Telekom/T Mobile.

Wise decision of Marco Brenner to go to Sunweb instead. I think the more ambitious riders in the peleton are realising that a move to Bora is more likely killing their careers than anything else.
 
Sunweb certainly has the edge over Bora at the moment. At first I thought Brennner was stupid to go to Sunweb, but perhaps the decision was not bad.
Normally Bora is not that stupid. With Buchmann there was a 50% chance that he could perform at the Tour. The big mistake was, that he did not quit. Schachmann ruined his season a bit with going to the Tour injured. Schachmann thought that the Giro and other races would be cancelled.
 
To be fair many teams acted like that. This was a season that almost would not have happened, everyone was very happy the Tour went ahead, it was of immense importance for the sponsors/ teams. And everyone brought their strongest riders, that is, strongest riders in theory. There were many who were a bit banged after the Dauphiné, but if they could by any means, they went. Also Buchmann and Schachmann were not the only ones who "ruined" their season by that. (Pinot, Higuita, Martínez...) I think Quintana stayed too long at the Tour as well. It was just so important for all of them, they hoped for a minor or bigger miracle.
 
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Some snippets for hyping:
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"The best years of a stage racer only begin at 28," the flyweight told the SID: "I still have something ahead of me."
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He was "very motivated to show what I'm made of at the Giro," said Buchmann. Because he still has a score to settle. The Tour of Italy is Buchmann's first major appearance since the 2020 Tour, which ended in pain and disappointment instead of on the podium in Paris due to a fall. A lot would have been possible without bad luck, Buchmann believes: "It's extremely bitter that I couldn't call it up."
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This is also due to Peter Sagan. The three-time world champion is still considered a pop star of cycling and attracts attention just because of his presence. At the Giro, the Slovak is supposed to win sprint victories for the Bora team - and escort Buchmann into the mountains. "You also need strong men on the flat," said Buchmann.
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And this from an interview with Großschartner:
The clear number one in the team is the Innsbruck-based German Emanuel Buchmann, who finished fourth in the Tour de France in 2019. "If he is in a similar shape to the one he was in back then, then he will certainly be on the podium. He can prepare himself really well for such races and has the coolness necessary to remain calm even in difficult situations," said Großschartner, who is a noble helper to his captain stand by your side in the mountain stages and also be his roommate.

I love the term noble helper which google uses for Großschartner.
 
Some snippets for hyping:
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"The best years of a stage racer only begin at 28," the flyweight told the SID: "I still have something ahead of me."
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He was "very motivated to show what I'm made of at the Giro," said Buchmann. Because he still has a score to settle. The Tour of Italy is Buchmann's first major appearance since the 2020 Tour, which ended in pain and disappointment instead of on the podium in Paris due to a fall. A lot would have been possible without bad luck, Buchmann believes: "It's extremely bitter that I couldn't call it up."
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This is also due to Peter Sagan. The three-time world champion is still considered a pop star of cycling and attracts attention just because of his presence. At the Giro, the Slovak is supposed to win sprint victories for the Bora team - and escort Buchmann into the mountains. "You also need strong men on the flat," said Buchmann.
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And this from an interview with Großschartner:
The clear number one in the team is the Innsbruck-based German Emanuel Buchmann, who finished fourth in the Tour de France in 2019. "If he is in a similar shape to the one he was in back then, then he will certainly be on the podium. He can prepare himself really well for such races and has the coolness necessary to remain calm even in difficult situations," said Großschartner, who is a noble helper to his captain stand by your side in the mountain stages and also be his roommate.

I love the term noble helper which google uses for Großschartner.
If he is in Tour 2019 or Dauphine 2020 shape then I would say a podium place is the least we can expect.
This year he looked solid but still a good way off his best shape.
Even at the Iztulia he was still a behind quite a lot of riders and it wasnt all due to bad luck he didnt finish in the top 10. Also on that crazy last stage his climbing times were a good bit worse than those of Pogacar or Valverde although his coach claims he could have followed them if not for the time lost on the downhill.

Question is now if this was all just part of getting in giro shape and not peaking too early and if he improved his from in the the last month.
 
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That was a horrible TT today. Even if we consider it being a flat and short power course which suits him worstof all. He'll need his best climbing legs and a good recovery for the Milan TT at the end.
His TTs were actually surprisingly good this season. Everything else was somewhat below what you expect though so overall this stands in line what he has shown this year. Also his team said they expected more.
It's early in the Giro and the course didnt suit him but those are the usual excuses you get when a rider isn't going as well as he should ( just like the first MTF in the Tour last year when it was not steep enough and he had no teammatss around him..)
I would be very surprised if he would ride anywhere near the podium this year.
 
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Very unlikely that he would end up on or close to the podium, would be nice for him tho after he had a terrible year in 2020 but I kinda feel that his 4th at the tour was a his maximum just like kruijswijks 3rd was probably his
 
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At radsport-news I read he came straight from altitude training and they are making this a bit responsible for his time trial... that they are hoping he will be best in the third week... Don't know if it works out like this, but that's what they say...
 
With Buchmann I unfortunately have the feeling that his 2019 TdF was his greatest showing. I don't really have a rational reason but my gut tells me that his career may end rather unspectacular with him fading in his GC aspirations after trying a few more times but no real results apart from maybe some lower top 10s. Again, don't ask me why I do believe that (obviously the last year and also this season weren't good but he actually does have a reason for that).
 
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At radsport-news I read he came straight from altitude training and they are making this a bit responsible for his time trial... that they are hoping he will be best in the third week... Don't know if it works out like this, but that's what they say...
Ja, Fabbro and Großschartner also suffered somewhat from the consequences of the altitude training in the early stages of the Tour of the Alps.

Zemke at least mentioned that they had hoped for a little more from Emu.

"The 28-year-old had deliberately designed his preparation with coach Dan Lorang so that in the third week he is still fit enough to shine when it is not a matter of seconds but of minutes."

Nevertheless, Bernal seems to have managed better, who Buchmann was able to beat in the Tour's time trial back in 2019. And Remco ended his altitude training earlier in order to get the finishing touches in the Ardennes.

Buchmann: "Didn't feel particularly good, but not that bad either" (...) "I think it was a solid start to the Giro".

At 104nd place out of 184 (even seconds behind Bardet, Hindley and Landa) that sounds euphemistic. He could have been in the top 60 in my opinion.

However, we will see and hope for the best for the 9 last stages of this Giro. I am still confident that he could be strong in the mountains though.
 
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With Buchmann I unfortunately have the feeling that his 2019 TdF was his greatest showing. I don't really have a rational reason but my gut tells me that his career may end rather unspectacular with him fading in his GC aspirations after trying a few more times but no real results apart from maybe some lower top 10s. Again, don't ask me why I do believe that (obviously the last year and also this season weren't good but he actually does have a reason for that).
i'm not that pessimistic like you and one of my closer friends.^^
Buchmann was looking really good at the Dauphine 2020 before he crashed. Having said that, I also wonder why he is not more ambitious at the start of his season highlight when he loses 38-17 seconds to other favorites on a TT with 8.6 km...
 
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he looked great last year in the dauphine but i am pretty sure he said himself that he was in is absolute peak shape already for that race whereas other riders were still building up a bit more .. pogacar and porte looked terrible compared to later in the tour

guillaume martin similar, he was great in the dauphine on some stages but then only 11th in the tour later on

i am afraid buchmann and bora overate him slightly when they expect him to challenge for podiums in GT's, realisticly he is more a guy who would come between 5-10th in GC ..he would be better off going for stages or miraculously get stronger in 2 or 3 years and step up to becoming a proper contender for the win but i am afraid he is already close to his absolute physical peak
 
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