European Championship 2025: Men’s ITT, October 1

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Strange response to my post. I have enjoyed cycling since as ever my memory goes back and I'll not let it slip.
I can't help it that some organizers and organizations - once in a while - are making a mess of things.
Your argument is skewed and imprecise. It's like a cuckoo landing in an owl's nest, insisting that it owns it and tell the owls to abandon.

I just thought the 50km limit was extremely arbitrary. And you said distances below that couldn't be used to crown a champion, which all the sports I mention do.

I too would like it if the distance was longer but you acted as if it was something new and particularly lamentable this year, which it isn't.

You could also argue that since they never use such distances (plus 50) in races across the season, it would be artificial if it was the case in the world and continental championships (but you could probably call those events artifical anyway given that there are no stand-alone time trials apart from those and the Chrono des Nations).
 
Honestly, there are quite a few people who think the 50 k in Cross-country skiing is most important. I also mourn the loss of the 50k race walk, especially because I doubt the 35k replacement has any large upside for viewers. It‘s still 2:30 long.
OK so off-topic, but I dropped watching the 50k cross-country discipline when it converted to an arm pole mass start. If it was to spice things up, it had the exact opposite effect.
 
Honestly, there are quite a few people who think the 50 k in Cross-country skiing is most important. I also mourn the loss of the 50k race walk, especially because I doubt the 35k replacement has any large upside for viewers. It‘s still 2:30 long.
 
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Average speeds are super slow for a TT this flat. Must be some strong headwind.
Perhaps we've also underestimated the final climb. At the start, there also seems to be some gradient.

Schwarzbacher seems to have a very similar profile to Ganna. The time trials that the young Slovakian has won this year have been very flat and very fast, over 50 kilometers per hour.
Today he finished twelfth. He may have had a mediocre day, but the time trials he's won have been over 50 kilometers per hour and today he did at 45. The winner didn't even reach 48.

Remco is a clear favorite with this average. Ganna needs the time trial to be very flat and fast. I think Tarling needs it even more.

It wouldn't be surprising if either of them were out off the podium.
 
Is strong headwind bad for remco? I hear the commentators say it is beneficial for the heavier riders, but the heavier riders are also bigger so they catch more wind. It seems counterintuitive to me.
Commentators aren't known to be experts in computational fluid dynamics.

Normally you're right but it gets very complex quickly depending on sideways profile and direction as well as shape and turbulence you create.
 
Perhaps we've also underestimated the final climb. At the start, there also seems to be some gradient.

Schwarzbacher seems to have a very similar profile to Ganna. The time trials that the young Slovakian has won this year have been very flat and very fast, over 50 kilometers per hour.
Today he finished twelfth. He may have had a mediocre day, but the time trials he's won have been over 50 kilometers per hour and today he did at 45. The winner didn't even reach 48.

Remco is a clear favorite with this average. Ganna needs the time trial to be very flat and fast. I think Tarling needs it even more.

It wouldn't be surprising if either of them were out off the podium.
The average speeds for the whole time trial for the women are generally less than 2kph lower than those from the start to T3 (at the bottom of the climb). So that would suggest a sub-50kph average in the flat section for every single male U23. That doesn't happen without a headwind.

That being said, a headwind is also good for Evenepoel , given his low CdA.

Oh, and Schwarzbacher is mainly good at short TTs, not necessarily flat ones - he was second at the West Bohemia uphill prologue, and that had a winning speed of 32kph.
 
Very nice they show the ludicrous advantage of catching your minute man so blatantly on screen in the women's ITT
For the ME ITT, i assume whoever gets close enough to catch his minute man of the final 15 riders, is going to be a contender regardless of the draft. But draft in a headwind is advantage squared. Let's just hope nobody is on a bad day giving a free advantage to whoever catches him.
 
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