European Championships 2019 - Alkmaar

[F_Cance]

It is. Not the first time you seem to have an individual opinion regarding him.

Alas "blow up" was losing 3 Minutes on 33km. I said it wasn't enough and now i have to read here that losing

1m30 on 6km climbing isn't much

 

[red_flanders]

obviously the 2-3 hardcore fanboys of him here can't wait for him to win every race. Others will be bored by this domination.

Maybe wait until it gets boring to complain that it's boring. Just a thought.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

It is. Not the first time you seem to have an individual opinion regarding him.

Alas "blow up" was losing 3 Minutes on 33km. I said it wasn't enough and now i have to read here that losing

You're one to talk about having a personal opinion of him. lol.
Anyway, no 1m30s isn't a lot to lose on the final 6km of multiple climbs after blowing up. Regardless of what you may believe.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

I just don't think getting "outclimbed" by 7 seconds by Kudus and Conti has to be an issue for a 19 year old. Whatever the reason of his attack in AIR, is irrelevant. He attacked too soon, blew himself up, still managed to lose only 1m30s. I'm sure Knox was ok with him attacking, because it was in Knox best interest as well.

That is not what Mayo says. The point is that if you had to draw a picture of where Evenepoel's current strengths lie, then surely it would be in rolling terrain/TT'ing and not in high mountain climbing. And who knows what the future may bring. Obviously, all Belgian fans would love a new GT-dominating rider but you should not be blinded by that hope in your evaluation of his current climbing level.

 

[DNP-Old]

Lol, I'm watching the women's junior race right now. Why put in a cobbled section if you don't block the sidewalk next to it? The only ''hard'' part of this course now brings no challenge whatsoever.

 

[DNP-Old]

Two things:
1). Why is this thread invisible from the main board?
2). I've seen enough, this route is garbage. Other than millions of crashes, there's no point to create a gap.

 

[F_Cance]

Yes. Don't get why Terpstra said "survival of the fittest". This is basically a crit race.

 

[tobydawq]

It will be quite stormy the next two days.

 

[DNP-Old]

It will be quite stormy the next two days.

Would be the only factor to make this thing remotely interesting. Wind isn't much of a factor though with this race not leaving downtown for even a second.

 

[starlord]

Would be the only factor to make this thing remotely interesting. Wind isn't much of a factor though with this race not leaving downtown for even a second.

First (46km long) loop is situated in the surroundings of Alkmaar, not in the city centre

 

[gerundium]

7 Bft wind in the forecast, with very strong wind gusts tomorrow. The womens race is going to complete and utter carnage. Sadly, on sunday the worst of it is over already for the mens race. The forecast is only 4 Bft, with shelter in the city that probably won't be enough to break it up. Fingers crossed that it picks up enough to go to 5 Bft, then it should be enough to have a very attractive race for the men as well.

KNMI - Weer - Verwachtingen

www.knmi.nl

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

That is not what Mayo says. The point is that if you had to draw a picture of where Evenepoel's current strengths lie, then surely it would be in rolling terrain/TT'ing and not in high mountain climbing. And who knows what the future may bring. Obviously, all Belgian fans would love a new GT-dominating rider but you should not be blinded by that hope in your evaluation of his current climbing level.

It's got nothing to do with all that. Sure i'm a fan, and while i'm excited, i'm also rather realistic. If you read through the Evenepoel topic, you'll see that both are true. I have personally described him as a mini-cancellara, who due to his tiny frame (weight), will also climb fast. I also compared him to Indurain, but a more realistic version, again due to his size/weight.

What Mayo has been saying, and he's stated that before in other topics, is that he can't understand why a 61kg kid who can pounce like he does in ITT, is still "only" at the same climbing level as Jan Polanc who is such a bad climber that he finished 11th and 14th in the Giro. But ofcourse, Mayo doesn't use Polanc as reference, but Kudus and Conti, because those fit his point better. While forgetting that he's still only 19 and probably climbing faster than Bernal at that age (going by Bernal's Tour de l'Avenir when he was 20, i'm actually quite sure of that). He also seems to forget that Remco is still not skinny as a climber, and has stated he wants to wait before working on his weight. And that he's only done his first altitude camp, a few weeks ago. While using descriptions like "outclimbed" for what is in reality a 7 second gap and Evenepoel went solo in the attack, while Kudus and Conti were cowering away in the wheel of Grossshartner. Yeah, i know what Mayo is talking about.

 

[glassmoon]

Congrats!

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Brenner & Piccolo in the break of 8.
Also Van Ryckeghem, Leijnse, Ponomar, Ballerstedt...

 

[Mayomaniac]

Brenner & Piccolo in the break of 8.

Good luck bringing those 2 back, both of them have a great engine and a strong team in the main bunch.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Full list of the break:

Brenner
Piccolo
Van Ryckeghem
Leijnse
Ponomar
Ballerstedt
Karpenko
Trainini

Peloton seems to be closing in.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Peloton is greatly reduced and they are only a few seconds behind the leaders.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

These guys don't know how to grab a bottle, lol. One after the other dropped in the supply zone.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Ponomar (2nd best 2002 in Course de la Paix iirc) in the attack, solo. French & Dutch leading the peloton.
Chasing group not far behind, peloton not far behind either.

 

[RedheadDane]

Will they finish the finish line before the riders get there?

 

[LosBrolin]

Ponomar is the next Marco Brenner

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Crash in the peloton, an Italian slides out of a corner and takes down half the bunch.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Ponomar is expanding his lead.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

5k to go now. Leijnse, Piccolo & Ballerstedt in the chase i think.

 

[spalco]

Pretty impressive effort by the Ukrainian. I hope he makes it.