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Also ran. Hysterical.bianchigirl said:Unfortunately, with the news coming out of BMC, questions will be asked as to why Evans is suddenly a winner rather than an also ran...
He definitely doesn't come across as 'one of the boys'. Probably a result of growing up in relative solitude as a youngster.Libertine Seguros said:Evans is a weird character. He's hard to warm to but his eternal nearly man status has made him an underdog, hence appealing. His talent is enough that he should have a better palmarès than he does, but he seldom goes into races as a favourite. He's been criticised for not attacking - yesterday on Eurosport David Harmon even said "perhaps at last people will stop saying he doesn't attack" - yet yesterday he won because he timed everything perfectly, whereas in 2008 and 2009 at the same race the so-called 'non-attacker' lost the race by attacking slightly too early. He's an understated winner, but a terrible loser. He spends years complaining indirectly about a lack of team support, but moves to a team with even less team support and wins things.
He's a pretty unique character within cycling, that's for sure. That's probably a good thing - acf's blood pressure couldn't handle any more.
You are 6 months too late. I noticed that long ago. No surprise he won a classic. He finished two places behind the team mate he was helping on Sunday in Amstel (Kroon) so he had the form. All it came down to was the right tactics. Classics unfold that way. Sometimes you win, others you make a move too early or leave it till to late. Evans got the timing right on this one. Good for him.mherm79 said:Obviously Cadel started 2010 with a new Team and the Rainbow jersey, but I think there has been another major change - attitude.
anyone else notice a change?
Why don't you just come out and say you love more than just the man. Hop of Evans **** for a a second and come back down to earth. It is a forum. If someone gives an opinion about a rider, regardless of whether that person is your real life friend/buddy, they are entitled to it. It does not make them a troll.powderpuff said:What a load of toro excrement. To have remained at the level he was throughout his stay with Lotto after 2008 would not have been possible if he was a basket case.There is no overstating the move to BMC was extremely beneficial to Cadel; he knew there was hope at the end of the tunnel after the worlds... Didn't see a Lotto DS or team at the worlds. He helped Gilbert because he was one of the true friends he had at Lotto despite all the words in this forum to the contrary about them. If you had written this at the start of the post I would have realised you were just another dumbA$$ troll and wouldn't have wasted my time commenting on your drivel. That is what racing is all about, it's the same for everyone in the race.![]()
You have to state why a person is an idiot for your point to not be a self reflecting pile of cow dung. Why is Ferminal out of his depth? Reasons, arguments, place them into a coherent logical structure. One glimpse at your post and all it sounds like is another Evans lover getting hot under the collar. You'll be gone next week. How do I know? Evans hardcore lovers who only love Evans, only pop up when he wins. He isn't Contador or Cancellara. He doesn't win every week. Maybe once every few months. Till next time...keep practising the name calling.Andy.G said:No, I don't know either of you, except for what I just read ... and you, my son are a complete idiot. I believe you would be out of your depth in a shallow bath. Ride more, race a bit, or at least once and learn what the truth in cycling is all about. I suggest you move to a doping thread - you'll be more engaging to them.
No. You are the dipstick. Get your head out of the sun for a second. Evans lost the leader jersey and did little to get it back. Or perhaps you noticed what happened the day of the puncture. Samu fell earlier and was dropped. Samu was over two minutes back. He caught up to Evans, stayed with him for a while and then dropped him. He finished 20 seconds back to Valverde. Evans dropped 1:20 or there abouts with the wheel change. Cadel then lagged to 1:50 for a while until Samu caught him and finished all up 1:30 back at the line from Valverde.Andy.G said:You did say that Cadel LET HIMSELF DOWN in the kms after he punctured and lost contact waiting out a disastrous wheel change, in the Vuelta ??
Let himself down ??
You dipstick. Go back to AFL. This beautiful sport is obviously beyond you.
Nope, the number below is what I am on the forum, I joined in the first weekFerminal said:Edit: Did CN have forums in 2004? I only noticed them in early 2009 (same with a lot of people I think). Were they reset or something? Is there an archive anywhere?
I said before look at the worlds, he took that in his own hands there as well, attacked at the right time, he has developed a sprint, which anyone who looked at the Stuttgart Finale will know he didn't have. (Or the numerous occasions he would lose 2-5 seconds on a mountain top finish of a GT, no kick) That sprint kick changes people from an "Also ran" to a "winner".Galic Ho said:You are 6 months too late. I noticed that long ago. No surprise he won a classic. He finished two places behind the team mate he was helping on Sunday in Amstel (Kroon) so he had the form. All it came down to was the right tactics. Classics unfold that way. Sometimes you win, others you make a move too early or leave it till to late. Evans got the timing right on this one. Good for him.
bianchigirl said:Unfortunately, with the news coming out of BMC, questions will be asked as to why Evans is suddenly a winner rather than an also ran...
Coming from a person who wishes death and pain to Evans contenders i suggest you calm down with calling people "disturbed".auscyclefan94 said:Galic Ho hates evans end of story. He is a disturbed little person. For a forum he gets very serious.
When did I say I wanted a rider dead? when i made a comment about valverde, well it was a slip of the tongue. I have been in an accident on a bike and was close to becoming a parapledgic. I was out of work and all for a two weeks. get your facts right buddy.No_Balls said:Coming from a person who wishes death and pain to Evans contenders i suggest you calm down with calling people "disturbed".
How can someone get their facts right about your personal life? They have no forum or life uplink to your day to day life. Almost a paraplegic and out of work for two weeks? I'm not saying your full of it, but you are being dramatic. One does not have such a severe accident and return to work within two weeks. Common sense dude. Common sense. As I said, the guy commenting had no idea what goes on in another forum members daily life. How about some perspective on your behalf next time.auscyclefan94 said:When did I say I wanted a rider dead? when i made a comment about valverde, well it was a slip of the tongue. I have been in an accident on a bike and was close to becoming a parapledgic. I was out of work and all for a two weeks. get your facts right buddy.
Agreed. He saw the Spaniards stuffing about in Mendrisio marking Cancellara and took advantage of the situation. Same thing with the Mur. Igor Anton went and Contador followed. Evans was the only one making ground. Anton popped and Contador slowed. Evans kept going at the same pace and the final section was less of an incline. This favoured Cadel and he was able to catch Contador. Contador knew that when Evans was on his wheel it was over. Great timing by Cadel. Right form, right unfolding of the race and the right mental approach. I don't think he has a much bigger kick than before (a bit more but nothing monumental), more or less that he paced the entire climb better than everyone else. That is really what all climbs come down to. He got everything right and Contador didn't.Notso Swift said:I said before look at the worlds, he took that in his own hands there as well, attacked at the right time, he has developed a sprint, which anyone who looked at the Stuttgart Finale will know he didn't have. (Or the numerous occasions he would lose 2-5 seconds on a mountain top finish of a GT, no kick) That sprint kick changes people from an "Also ran" to a "winner".
The attitude has changed with success, but success is from identifying a weakness and plugging that gap.
No, I was lucky especially the way I landed that I didn't become one. Still broke some bones etc. FAir enough though.Galic Ho said:How can someone get their facts right about your personal life? They have no forum or life uplink to your day to day life. Almost a paraplegic and out of work for two weeks? I'm not saying your full of it, but you are being dramatic. One does not have such a severe accident and return to work within two weeks. Common sense dude. Common sense. As I said, the guy commenting had no idea what goes on in another forum members daily life. How about some perspective on your behalf next time.
HO HO HO ...u break me up... Ferminal and I have discussed this and moved on; he doesn't need SOOOPER HO to come to his rescue.Galic Ho said:Why don't you just come out and say you love more than just the man. Hop of Evans **** for a a second and come back down to earth. It is a forum. If someone gives an opinion about a rider, regardless of whether that person is your real life friend/buddy, they are entitled to it. It does not make them a troll.
You forgot to mention how AC drove 1000's of miles just to honour his commitment to the race and he is still recovering from his bad allergies, and that Cadel was wheel sucking until AC blew up.The point remains. Evans was in very good form in the later half of 2009 whilst still at Lotto. When he wins a GT your opinion might hold a little more weight. Winning a single classic is a great achievement but over a guy who just won the Castill ya Leon?
Who knows??? Oh that's right you know everything and predict every winner months perhaps years before a race. Oh to have such eternal wisdom.Do you honestly think if Gilbert was helping him today had he not left Lotto, he would not have won?
I noticed. Good for you.powderpuff said:HO HO HO ...u break me up... Ferminal and I have discussed this and moved on; he doesn't need SOOOPER HO to come to his rescue.
I didn't predict this race, no. Because I didn't care. But yes, I have gotten the five I could be interested in right this year. They were pretty obvious though and many others said the same damn thing. Predicting stage races and classics is not hard. Predicting podiums is another matter. Ok, I had Paris Roubaix top two around the wrong way but I don't care. At least I don't make bland predictions and state "I know which new team Cadel is going to." Forgot that did you? Remember your self justification to BlackCat that you knew but didn't have the nads to say where specifically? You know when BlacCat called BMC before everyone else and all you said was that you knew and wouldn't confirm it. Does it feel good to know Cadel? Does it make you feel warm and fuzzy inside?You forgot to mention how AC drove 1000's of miles just to honour his commitment to the race and he is still recovering from his bad allergies, and that Cadel was wheel sucking until AC blew up.Who knows??? Oh that's right you know everything and predict every winner months perhaps years before a race. Oh to have such eternal wisdom.
Over it.
I don't care about the gloating. Go for it, but you've already heard from others how bland and bad the "He beat dopers" statements look. One cannot control what others do, especially in cycling. I might make all kinds of predictions etc, and not care if I am accurate or close but the one thing I will not do is say someone is definitely clean. Not in this sport and not with they history and prevalence of doping/cheating in Western culture, more importantly in competitive sports. That would be why you were shocked with the BMC deal. How could you know? $h1t happens and when you're knee deep in it (the dopers) the stench can catch you at any time. I know you gained perspective on the BMC doping matters, so all is good. BMC and the Storm in two days is massive. Very bid thing to take in and comprehend after the elation of your favourite rider beating his nemesis in a classic. Understandable and normal.auscyclefan94 said:No, I was lucky especially the way I landed that I didn't become one. Still broke some bones etc. FAir enough though.
Don't get how I am being a drama queen? I do disagree with you but I made some over the top comments of frei in the clinic. Just a tad shocked and was a bit stupid after having 3 hours of sleep from watching the fleche win of evans.
I will try to respect and be more understanding of your opinion even if i don't agree with it.
Remaining races...Galic Ho said:Can ACF94 or someone else explain why on Evans website there is no racing schedule listed for months after May. His schedule has everything up until the Giro. Is he just lazy or has he announced plans and I missed them? If they have a Tour invite why isn't it up? Shouldn't he be racing the Dauphine in June or the Tour de Suisse?
You should drop him a note on his guestbook and ask him; maybe he will update it just for you.Galic Ho said:Can ACF94 or someone else explain why on Evans website there is no racing schedule listed for months after May. His schedule has everything up until the Giro. Is he just lazy or has he announced plans and I missed them? If they have a Tour invite why isn't it up? Shouldn't he be racing the Dauphine in June or the Tour de Suisse?