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Also ran. Hysterical.bianchigirl said:Unfortunately, with the news coming out of BMC, questions will be asked as to why Evans is suddenly a winner rather than an also ran...
Libertine Seguros said:Evans is a weird character. He's hard to warm to but his eternal nearly man status has made him an underdog, hence appealing. His talent is enough that he should have a better palmarès than he does, but he seldom goes into races as a favourite. He's been criticised for not attacking - yesterday on Eurosport David Harmon even said "perhaps at last people will stop saying he doesn't attack" - yet yesterday he won because he timed everything perfectly, whereas in 2008 and 2009 at the same race the so-called 'non-attacker' lost the race by attacking slightly too early. He's an understated winner, but a terrible loser. He spends years complaining indirectly about a lack of team support, but moves to a team with even less team support and wins things.
He's a pretty unique character within cycling, that's for sure. That's probably a good thing - acf's blood pressure couldn't handle any more.
mherm79 said:Obviously Cadel started 2010 with a new Team and the Rainbow jersey, but I think there has been another major change - attitude.
anyone else notice a change?
powderpuff said:What a load of toro excrement. To have remained at the level he was throughout his stay with Lotto after 2008 would not have been possible if he was a basket case.There is no overstating the move to BMC was extremely beneficial to Cadel; he knew there was hope at the end of the tunnel after the worlds... Didn't see a Lotto DS or team at the worlds. He helped Gilbert because he was one of the true friends he had at Lotto despite all the words in this forum to the contrary about them. If you had written this at the start of the post I would have realised you were just another dumbA$$ troll and wouldn't have wasted my time commenting on your drivel. That is what racing is all about, it's the same for everyone in the race.![]()
Andy.G said:No, I don't know either of you, except for what I just read ... and you, my son are a complete idiot. I believe you would be out of your depth in a shallow bath. Ride more, race a bit, or at least once and learn what the truth in cycling is all about. I suggest you move to a doping thread - you'll be more engaging to them.
Andy.G said:You did say that Cadel LET HIMSELF DOWN in the kms after he punctured and lost contact waiting out a disastrous wheel change, in the Vuelta ??
Let himself down ??
You dipstick. Go back to AFL. This beautiful sport is obviously beyond you.
Ferminal said:Edit: Did CN have forums in 2004? I only noticed them in early 2009 (same with a lot of people I think). Were they reset or something? Is there an archive anywhere?
Galic Ho said:You are 6 months too late. I noticed that long ago. No surprise he won a classic. He finished two places behind the team mate he was helping on Sunday in Amstel (Kroon) so he had the form. All it came down to was the right tactics. Classics unfold that way. Sometimes you win, others you make a move too early or leave it till to late. Evans got the timing right on this one. Good for him.
bianchigirl said:Unfortunately, with the news coming out of BMC, questions will be asked as to why Evans is suddenly a winner rather than an also ran...
auscyclefan94 said:Galic Ho hates evans end of story. He is a disturbed little person. For a forum he gets very serious.
No_Balls said:Coming from a person who wishes death and pain to Evans contenders i suggest you calm down with calling people "disturbed".
auscyclefan94 said:When did I say I wanted a rider dead? when i made a comment about valverde, well it was a slip of the tongue. I have been in an accident on a bike and was close to becoming a parapledgic. I was out of work and all for a two weeks. get your facts right buddy.
Notso Swift said:I said before look at the worlds, he took that in his own hands there as well, attacked at the right time, he has developed a sprint, which anyone who looked at the Stuttgart Finale will know he didn't have. (Or the numerous occasions he would lose 2-5 seconds on a mountain top finish of a GT, no kick) That sprint kick changes people from an "Also ran" to a "winner".
The attitude has changed with success, but success is from identifying a weakness and plugging that gap.
Galic Ho said:How can someone get their facts right about your personal life? They have no forum or life uplink to your day to day life. Almost a paraplegic and out of work for two weeks? I'm not saying your full of it, but you are being dramatic. One does not have such a severe accident and return to work within two weeks. Common sense dude. Common sense. As I said, the guy commenting had no idea what goes on in another forum members daily life. How about some perspective on your behalf next time.
HO HO HO ...u break me up... Ferminal and I have discussed this and moved on; he doesn't need SOOOPER HO to come to his rescue.Galic Ho said:Why don't you just come out and say you love more than just the man. Hop of Evans **** for a a second and come back down to earth. It is a forum. If someone gives an opinion about a rider, regardless of whether that person is your real life friend/buddy, they are entitled to it. It does not make them a troll.
You forgot to mention how AC drove 1000's of miles just to honour his commitment to the race and he is still recovering from his bad allergies, and that Cadel was wheel sucking until AC blew up.The point remains. Evans was in very good form in the later half of 2009 whilst still at Lotto. When he wins a GT your opinion might hold a little more weight. Winning a single classic is a great achievement but over a guy who just won the Castill ya Leon?
Who knows??? Oh that's right you know everything and predict every winner months perhaps years before a race. Oh to have such eternal wisdom.Do you honestly think if Gilbert was helping him today had he not left Lotto, he would not have won?
powderpuff said:HO HO HO ...u break me up... Ferminal and I have discussed this and moved on; he doesn't need SOOOPER HO to come to his rescue.
You forgot to mention how AC drove 1000's of miles just to honour his commitment to the race and he is still recovering from his bad allergies, and that Cadel was wheel sucking until AC blew up.Who knows??? Oh that's right you know everything and predict every winner months perhaps years before a race. Oh to have such eternal wisdom.
Over it.
auscyclefan94 said:No, I was lucky especially the way I landed that I didn't become one. Still broke some bones etc. FAir enough though.
Don't get how I am being a drama queen? I do disagree with you but I made some over the top comments of frei in the clinic. Just a tad shocked and was a bit stupid after having 3 hours of sleep from watching the fleche win of evans.
I will try to respect and be more understanding of your opinion even if i don't agree with it.
Galic Ho said:Can ACF94 or someone else explain why on Evans website there is no racing schedule listed for months after May. His schedule has everything up until the Giro. Is he just lazy or has he announced plans and I missed them? If they have a Tour invite why isn't it up? Shouldn't he be racing the Dauphine in June or the Tour de Suisse?
You should drop him a note on his guestbook and ask him; maybe he will update it just for you.Galic Ho said:Can ACF94 or someone else explain why on Evans website there is no racing schedule listed for months after May. His schedule has everything up until the Giro. Is he just lazy or has he announced plans and I missed them? If they have a Tour invite why isn't it up? Shouldn't he be racing the Dauphine in June or the Tour de Suisse?