Evans can win Le Tour!

[insideout leadout]

I tend to think that if horrific weather were to befall the 2011 TdF (oh please, oh please, oh please!) then that would work to Evan's advantage. I think he's a tough SOB and would do well [/B]

Horrific weather only gives the informal race director Fabian Cancellara more power, he'll protect his baby from guys covered in mud.

 

[Havetts]

Well horrific weather? Passage du Gois will cause a lot of crashes, eventhough its officially pre-race. I wouldnt mind seeing heavy weather though, Robert Gesink should be a good with heavy winds and rain though he has the habit to duck in every little hole in the road he can find and break something.

Not to derail the thread.
Though this year might be a bit too tough for Evans, if any year should've been Evans' it should be 2008. But then he chose to stick to the wheel instead of just following Sastre / attacking himself.

I dont know, Evans just seems to come short on the tough long climbs.

 

[biopass]

Anyone who finished 24 seconds after Contador can win the tour.

All Evans needs is to loose some of that (by his size) huge TT engine and Schlecks will be wondering why they can´t drop that little aussie.

 

[auscyclefan94]

If Contador only gets a one year ban he'll still have a better 2011 season than Cadel Evans.

That's a big if sadly.

Wow, you're so funny!

 

[insideout leadout]

Anyone who finished 24 seconds after Contador can win the tour.

All Evans needs is to loose some of that (by his size) huge TT engine and Schlecks will be wondering why they can´t drop that little aussie.

Evans will always be a power climber. Not sure how much more he can lose without sacrificing power. He needs to get his old TT engine back because he hasn't been that impressive against the clock lately. To put minutes to Schleck in the TT and not lose too much in the mountains is the winning combo.

 

[El Pistolero]

Wow, you're so funny!

No, it's the truth and you know it.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Evans will always be a power climber. Not sure how much more he can lose without sacrificing power. He needs to get his old TT engine back because he hasn't been that impressive against the clock lately. To put minutes to Schleck in the TT and not lose too much in the mountains is the winning combo.

Exactly, if Evans can out climb Basso on the Plan de Corones & Passo del Tonale when quite sick then I personally think he can match Basso on the climbs. His tt engine seems to have gone missing though. Hopefully he can get it back.

 

[auscyclefan94]

No, it's the truth and you know it.

It doesn't make any sense at all. Go back and crawl under your little hole.

 

[El Pistolero]

It doesn't make any sense at all. Go back and crawl under your little hole.

The only big thing Evans has a shot of winning this year are the Ardennes classics. It's not that hard to understand.

He won't ride the Giro, he won't win the Tour and he won't ride/win the Vuelta. He's chanceless in the Worlds this year.

 

[Bike Boy]

The only big thing Evans has a shot of winning this year are the Ardennes classics. It's not that hard to understand.

He won't ride the Giro, he won't win the Tour and he won't ride/win the Vuelta. He's chanceless in the Worlds this year.

Which is true for any tour contender, and has little to do with the OP

 

[El Pistolero]

Which is true for any tour contender, and has little to do with the OP

No, it has to do with my first statement. I said if Contador is allowed to ride the Vuelta this year than he'll have a better season than Evans.

Cuddles fanboy thinks I'm trolling Evans, but I'm really not. Evans is a good cyclist, but he had his chances of winning a GT. I don't see him getting anymore, a new generation has stepped in with Ricco, Nibali, Contador, Schleck, etc.

The only thing I can see him win is one of the Ardennes classics or perhaps a stage race although he usually gets boycotted there. But hey no Valverdo, no Contador, etc so he could get lucky at the Dauphine this year.

But if Contador can ride the Vuelta he'll win and he'll also perform well in Lombardia then(although winning there will be harder than at the Vuelta.)

 

[ferryman]

No, it has to do with my first statement. I said if Contador is allowed to ride the Vuelta this year than he'll have a better season than Evans.

Cuddles fanboy thinks I'm trolling Evans, but I'm really not. Evans is a good cyclist, but he had his chances of winning a GT. I don't see him getting anymore, a new generation has stepped in with Ricco, Nibali, Contador, Schleck, etc.

The only thing I can see him win is one of the Ardennes classics or perhaps a stage race although he usually gets boycotted there. But hey no Valverdo, no Contador, etc so he could get lucky at the Dauphine this year.

But if Contador can ride the Vuelta he'll win and he'll also perform well in Lombardia then(although winning there will be harder than at the Vuelta.)

I don't like getting involved in a domestic but...if Cadel won another Ardennes, maybe a Dauphine/Suisse and a podium in the TDF (Sorry Aus Fan he ain't going to win it this year or any year) is that so far behind a (very unlikely) Vuelta win?

 

[El Pistolero]

I don't like getting involved in a domestic but...if Cadel won another Ardennes, maybe a Dauphine/Suisse and a podium in the TDF (Sorry Aus Fan he ain't going to win it this year or any year) is that so far behind a (very unlikely) Vuelta win?

In terms of victories, yes. Winning is the only thing that matters sadly.

While I wouldn't be surprised if Cuddles won a classic, it still is going to be hard for him(and anyone). Those races are pretty unpredictable. While Contador has a 100% win rate in terms of GTs. But yes he probably won't be allowed to ride and CAS will appeal for a 2 year ban, that's why I said if.

 

[Bike Boy]

No, it has to do with my first statement. I said if Contador is allowed to ride the Vuelta this year than he'll have a better season than Evans.

Cuddles fanboy thinks I'm trolling Evans, but I'm really not. Evans is a good cyclist, but he had his chances of winning a GT. I don't see him getting anymore, a new generation has stepped in with Ricco, Nibali, Contador, Schleck, etc.

The only thing I can see him win is one of the Ardennes classics or perhaps a stage race although he usually gets boycotted there. But hey no Valverdo, no Contador, etc so he could get lucky at the Dauphine this year.

But if Contador can ride the Vuelta he'll win and he'll also perform well in Lombardia then(although winning there will be harder than at the Vuelta.)

Fair enough! but Who says Contador will be able come back on the same level right away? Apparantly he's not high on motivation at the moment. Okay it wont matter if he skips training for a couple of weeks, but he also needs to rediscover the mindset of a winner.

Btw I'm not a fanboy, I just happen to sympathize with the hard working mentality.

 

[insideout leadout]

a new generation has stepped in with Ricco, Nibali, Contador, Schleck, etc.

Sounds more like the dirty generation 2.0

Can we please reserve the 'new generation' for young & d free riders?

 

[Bike Boy]

Sounds more like the dirty generation 2.0

Can we please reserve the 'new generation' for young & d free riders?

When is that going to happen?

 

[delbified]

cadel can win by 5 mins. if he stops playing fair and levels the playing field.

 

[insideout leadout]

When is that going to happen?

Don't be so cynical.

 

[ferryman]

Sounds more like the dirty generation 2.0

Can we please reserve the 'new generation' for young & d free riders?

I would agree but unfortunately that would be the next generation of young riders or maybe even the generation after them. You get my gist

 

[theyoungest]

Sounds more like the dirty generation 2.0

Can we please reserve the 'new generation' for young & d free riders?

Please reserve that kind of Bike Pure crap for the clinic. They annoy the hell out of me already, please don't make it worse. And no, I'm not a fan of doping.

 

[The Hitch]

I don't like getting involved in a domestic but...if Cadel won another Ardennes, maybe a Dauphine/Suisse and a podium in the TDF (Sorry Aus Fan he ain't going to win it this year or any year) is that so far behind a (very unlikely) Vuelta win?

Doing well at a race like Dauphine, is exactly the type of thing, Evens needs to sacrifice if he wants to be top form at Tour.

Fair enough! but Who says Contador will be able come back on the same level right away.

If the Vuelta field is anything like last year, he wont need to be on same level. Limit losses to Anton/ Rujano/ possibly Ricco in mountains and woop all in 30k tt. Not the same as beating Andy Schleck by 4 minutes on Verbier and 2 tts.

Sounds more like the dirty generation 2.0

Can we please reserve the 'new generation' for young & d free riders?

You dont really do your argument any favours when you choose as you "d free riders" Nibali and Andy Schleck.

 

[Bike Boy]

Don't be so cynical.

Forget I asked, this is not the clinic. But I'm not cynical I'm genuinely curious.

 

[Bike Boy]

If the Vuelta field is anything like last year, he wont need to be on same level. Limit losses to Anton/ Rujano/ possibly Ricco in mountains and woop all in 30k tt. Not the same as beating Andy Schleck by 4 minutes on Verbier and 2 tts.

I would love to see Evans attend the vuelta and beat bertie, if not on the bike then after yet another positive test

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Can Cadel Evans win Le Tour? Yes

Will Cadel Evans win Le Tour? No

 

[insideout leadout]

Please reserve that kind of Bike Pure crap for the clinic. They annoy the hell out of me already, please don't make it worse. And no, I'm not a fan of doping.

Sorry to upset you. Should have read the forum rules.

You dont really do your argument any favours when you choose as you "d free riders" Nibali and Andy Schleck.

If you are referring to rumors your comment isn't any better.