Evans V Valverde...

[Ferminal]

Im causing trouble? well at least I'm not reposible for over two thousand of the most pointless, idiotic posts that this forum has ever produced. Blackcat was right when he said you know absolutely nothing about cycling and probably never will.

Wrong account?

 

[WonderLance]

Wrong account?

Its what alchoholics call a moment of claraty.

 

[issoisso]

Its what alchoholics call a moment of claraty.

The difference being that, unlike you, they realize they have a problem

And if a guy with a business degree can't even do something as simple as spell decently, I can see why the economy is the way it is

 

[Ferminal]

Its what alchoholics call a moment of claraty.

Or should that be moment of Clarety?

 

[WonderLance]

The difference being that, unlike you, they realize they have a problem

And if a guy with a business degree can't even do something as simple as spell decently, I can see why the economy is the way it is

Its english so you spell it realise

 

[WonderLance]

I'm using the ignore on him now... He's not worth my time or credibility. Just on here to create trouble.

Wow..just read this post, I like the assumptions that:

a) Your time is worth something.
b) You have any credibility

I would question both these assumptions as the evidence presented in the half million posts you have 'contributed' to this forum does not, in any way, support them.

I just wish there was some way of ignoring the 10.000 + threads you will start with titles such as:

"Why cuddles is better than Merckx, just a little unlucky"

"why Cuddles should have won the Liege/Amstel/Romandie/Dauphine/Giro/Tour/Vuelta, he just got picked on by all those nasty foreigners"

or "Or why I just love Cuddles cos he is so gosh darn good."

 

[flicker]

I guess the Piti/Cuddles breakaway was a preview of LBL and the Dauphanie.

Nice show boys but not an important race for those 2. Armstrongs break another preview of Le Tour where Lance will place between 5th and 7th.

Enertaining as I wanted Cuddles to win the tour down under. Obviously that was his goal. I don't think Cuddles objective was a stage win.

Kinda hard to beat Colombia in that type of race.

 

[theyoungest]

Its english so you spell it realise

Unless it's American English.

 

[WonderLance]

Unless it's American English.

which is a contradiction in terms

 

[issoisso]

Its english so you spell it realise

Thanks, no-punctuation-man, world's lamest superhero. Off you go now to save some donut from the evil go clutches of Dr. Doom. Go on then, scoot.

 

[theyoungest]

which is a contradiction in terms

I'm not willing to believe you come from the land of Shakespeare. It's too painful.

 

[Big GMaC]

I'm not willing to believe you come from the land of Shakespeare. It's too painful.

yo its not like Shakespeare wrote in English as we know it!, He just rote wateaver looked wright to him, all that materd was the comprehenshion of his wuords.

I mean until the codififying of the language in Johnson's dictionary no one cared how you spelled... And I think even that first dictionary was pretty loose on spelling guidlines!

 

[theyoungest]

yo its not like Shakespeare wrote in English as we know it!, He just rote wateaver looked wright to him, all that materd was the comprehenshion of his wuords.

That's because dear old William had to basically invent half of the language he used.

 

[Ferminal]

I thought he was illiterate?

 

[WonderLance]

Thanks, no-punctuation-man, world's lamest superhero. Off you go now to save some donut from the evil go clutches of Dr. Doom. Go on then, scoot.

I'm not willing to believe you come from the land of Shakespeare. It's too painful.

I thought he was illiterate?

'slings and arrows'

 

[Bala Verde]

Stay on topic please, but feel free to open a thread on the influence of Shakespeare ('s spelling conventions) on the English language.

 

[DAOTEC]

2 Things

1) Monday, March 15, 2010- Second overall in Paris-Nice, Spanish rider Alejandro Valverde is turning his attention toward the Volta ao Pais, CAS decisions permitting.

On Thursday a four-day process will begin, under which the UCI and WADA will seek to win a judgement against the Spanish Cycling Federation, the Real Federación Española de Ciclismo (RFEC), and Valverde over the federation’s refusal to open disciplinary hearings against the rider.

A decision is due this month but no date for that has been disclosed.

Valverde is facing a two year ban if CAS rules against him in the latest hearing; also, if he loses the January appeal, the UCI could seek to convert the Italian ban to a worldwide sanction.
Report: www.velonation.com


2) Monday, March 15, 2010- UCI World Rankings shake-up

# 1. Luis Leon Sanchez Gil Caisse D’epargne (gce) 158 points
# 2. André Greipel Team Htc – Columbia (thr) 119 points
# 3. Alberto Contador Velasco Astana (ast) 107 points
# 4. Alejandro Valverde Belmonte Caisse D’epargne (gce) 99 points
# 5. Greg Henderson Sky Professional Cycling Team (sky) 85 points
# 6. Robbie Mcewen Team Katusha (kat) 67 points
# 7. Roman Kreuziger Liquigas-Doimo (liq) 60 points
# 8. Luke Roberts Team Milram (mrm) 54 points
# 9. Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez Euskaltel – Euskadi (eus) 53 points
# 10. Jens Voigt Team Saxo Bank (sax) 46 points
# 11. Cadel Evans Bmc Racing Team (bmc) 43 points

Valverde finished 2nd this weekend in P-N
Evans is trailing top spot in the T-A

 

[karlboss]

Valverde again proving he is a solid rider, but for a more even ranking lets wait until tirreno adriatico comes in. Evans vs Valverde. Evans has a better steady state speed than valverde, so individually will climb better and TT better than valverde, not by much but he will. Vaverde has a kick. So he has that little extra that leads to more one day/stage wins.
Head to head in a GT they should be very even, ie when they are fighting for 1 and 2. Evans taking 30 seconds in a TT and Vaverde taking 5 seconds and time bonuses up mountains.

However when neither are the best rider ie the tour, Cadel should always always beat valverde. He'll win in the TT and will have a host of riders covering the gap from when valverde crosses the line to himself for a same time result. When riding in a group valverde is more likely to drop out of it than evans.

I've worded that badly but I'm sure you all understand.

 

[Galic Ho]

Valverde again proving he is a solid rider, but for a more even ranking lets wait until tirreno adriatico comes in. Evans vs Valverde. Evans has a better steady state speed than valverde, so individually will climb better and TT better than valverde, not by much but he will. Vaverde has a kick. So he has that little extra that leads to more one day/stage wins.
Head to head in a GT they should be very even, ie when they are fighting for 1 and 2. Evans taking 30 seconds in a TT and Vaverde taking 5 seconds and time bonuses up mountains.

However when neither are the best rider ie the tour, Cadel should always always beat valverde. He'll win in the TT and will have a host of riders covering the gap from when valverde crosses the line to himself for a same time result. When riding in a group valverde is more likely to drop out of it than evans.

I've worded that badly but I'm sure you all understand.

Yeah you did. The Vuelta disproved half of what you wrote and proved the other half. Valverde is about equal in climbing if not better and only a few seconds, 20 at most off in his chrono. Valverde will beat Evans every time. Oh and last years Dauphine and Ventoux showed Valverde can climb better than Evans. Valverde doesn't make as many tactical errors as he use to. Cadel still does but if he wins Tirreno then people will say he doesn't. Won't matter, Valverde is still a better rider.

 

[Oldman]

Yeah you did. The Vuelta disproved half of what you wrote and proved the other half. Valverde is about equal in climbing if not better and only a few seconds, 20 at most off in his chrono. Valverde will beat Evans every time. Oh and last years Dauphine and Ventoux showed Valverde can climb better than Evans. Valverde doesn't make as many tactical errors as he use to. Cadel still does but if he wins Tirreno then people will say he doesn't. Won't matter, Valverde is still a better rider.[/QUOTE]

Said it elsewhere: YUP.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Valverde is still a better rider.

Yep. Much more exciting rider to watch too. Plus Valverde won't threaten to decapitate you.

 

[Ferminal]

Yep. Much more exciting rider to watch too. Plus Valverde won't threaten to decapitate you.

Both have reasonably famous canines.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Yeah you did. The Vuelta disproved half of what you wrote and proved the other half. Valverde is about equal in climbing if not better and only a few seconds, 20 at most off in his chrono. Valverde will beat Evans every time. Oh and last years Dauphine and Ventoux showed Valverde can climb better than Evans. Valverde doesn't make as many tactical errors as he use to. Cadel still does but if he wins Tirreno then people will say he doesn't. Won't matter, Valverde is still a better rider.

1)valverde is no where near evans in the chrono.
2)Valverde will not beat evans every time
3) You say 1 stage proves he's a better climber. If evans reacted he definetly would of not lost much if any time. It was an inability to act.
4)Valverde shouldn't even be riding.

 

[karlboss]

Yeah you did. The Vuelta disproved half of what you wrote and proved the other half. Valverde is about equal in climbing if not better and only a few seconds, 20 at most off in his chrono. Valverde will beat Evans every time. Oh and last years Dauphine and Ventoux showed Valverde can climb better than Evans. Valverde doesn't make as many tactical errors as he use to. Cadel still does but if he wins Tirreno then people will say he doesn't. Won't matter, Valverde is still a better rider.

For the vuelta chronos Vavlerde performed better than he normally does against evans, however look one race earlier to dauphine. I stand on my arbitrary 30 seconds. Then there are the years before. Last year valverde beat Evans soundly in one climb. I'd say head to head Evans if there has been a gap between them Evans has won up more climbs.

In a GT where these two are 1 and 2 Valverde will win depending on ITT km, if there are better climbers aroudn Cadel will beat Valverde.

Valverde is a better rider than evans, look at palmares side by side.

 

[karlboss]

1)valverde is no where near evans in the chrono.
2)Valverde will not beat evans every time
3) You say 1 stage proves he's a better climber. If evans reacted he definetly would of not lost much if any time. It was an inability to act.
4)Valverde shouldn't even be riding.

3) Valverde was better, by a margin than everyone other than maybe Contador that day.