Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[Bonimenier]

No, you choose yourself, because you compete for your OWN country.

Yourself wasn't one of the options I gave. Please read better.

 

[Gargamel35]

Yourself wasn't one of the options I gave. Please read better.

Your option choices are flawed. Think better.

 

[Bonimenier]

Your option choices are flawed. Think better.

They weren't flawed, because those were the only 2 valid outcomes in the WCh at the end last year. But as I said before I don't think Roglic had the legs to do more anyway, and if he had, he surely wasn't obliged to ride for van Aert.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

lol people are still debating this 6 months later

 

[Blanco]

They weren't flawed, because those were the only 2 valid outcomes in the WCh at the end last year. But as I said before I don't think Roglic had the legs to do more anyway, and if he had, he surely wasn't obliged to ride for van Aert.

What two outcomes? You mean Alaphilippe or Van Aert's win I guess? It's easy to know that after the race. I wonder if Roglic win was a valid outcome to you in Liege? If yes, why it wasn't valid at the Worlds?

 

[Bonimenier]

What two outcomes? You mean Alaphilippe or Van Aert's win I guess? It's easy to know that after the race. I wonder if Roglic win was a valid outcome to you in Liege? If yes, why it wasn't valid at the Worlds?

Van Aert clearly had enough left in the legs considering the work he was doing in the chase. He would've cleaned up a sprint against those guys on a tricycle if needed.

 

[johnymax]

They weren't blind. They just deny how cycling works to fit their insane narrative. With Belgians I can accept a degree of nationalism, but some of them went compeltely insane and some of them did it again this Milano Sanremo

Milano-Sanremo? What did go wrong there?

 

[Red Rick]

Milano-Sanremo? What did go wrong there?

IIRC frigging Wuyts was writing how Van Aert would've won if Jumbo had sent Roglic to help out

 

[Blanco]

Van Aert clearly had enough left in the legs considering the work he was doing in the chase. He would've cleaned up a sprint against those guys on a tricycle if needed.

I've seen way stranger things than Van Aert losing to some of that guys. It's WC finale, everybody has a chance.

Edit: You saw it today too...

 

[tobydawq]

IIRC frigging Wuyts was writing how Van Aert would've won if Jumbo had sent Roglic to help out

Well, he isn't wrong, is he?

 

[johnymax]

IIRC frigging Wuyts was writing how Van Aert would've won if Jumbo had sent Roglic to help out

After Roglic's two crashes in PN I'm not sure it was the smartest thing to say. But a Belgian won either way, so it's all good.

 

[Luthor]

I don't understand why is he going to Amstel. If WvA goes and FW/LBL are so close, he should skip it and be more fresh to those 2 races.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I don't understand why is he going to Amstel. If WvA goes and FW/LBL are so close, he should skip it and be more fresh to those 2 races.

he hardly races. one day at amstel is not going to tax him for fleche and liege. and i think he has more chance to win amstel than fleche. jumbo needs multiple options in these races and not just relying on WVA

 

[Bushman]

he hardly races. one day at amstel is not going to tax him for fleche and liege. and i think he has more chance to win amstel than fleche. jumbo needs multiple options in these races and not just relying on WVA

We are talking about Roglic here, right? He must surely be the top favourite for Fleche, unless I’m missing something.

 

[Eeslliw]

We are talking about Roglic here, right? He must surely be the top favourite for Fleche, unless I’m missing something.

Nah, his uphill sprint is washed up, he got beaten by Pogacar.

 

[Bushman]

Nah, his uphill sprint is washed up, he got beaten by Pogacar.

Based on what? That one stage in Itzulia in which Pogacar beat him?

 

[Blanco]

We are talking about Roglic here, right? He must surely be the top favourite for Fleche, unless I’m missing something.

We have 5xwinner, 2xwinner, last year's winner, some podium finishers from recent years, so I wouldn't call him THE top favorite just yet...

 

[tobydawq]

Imagine Valverde winning it again.

2006
2014
2015
2016
2017
2021

 

[Red Rick]

I honestly think he's the 2nd favorite for Fleche. Also I hope he doesn't wait for the final 200m.

I want a frequent, well known climb to have its record obliterated.

 

[Luthor]

I think the reason why both WvA and Roglic are at Amstel is because TJV are a Dutch team. Amstel is the biggest Dutch one-day race and they really want to win it. It's also the strongest team TJV had in a one-day race this year. Kinda how Movistar goes bonkers with their leaders in Spanish races.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I honestly think he's the 2nd favorite for Fleche. Also I hope he doesn't wait for the final 200m.

I want a frequent, well known climb to have its record obliterated.

TJV to go thermonuclear from the bottom, and only Pog&Rog will stay with the mighty WVA. Rog will attack to finish the job only to be overtaken inches from the line by Pog, who will get another climb record to his collection.

 

[Red Rick]

I think the reason why both WvA and Roglic are at Amstel is because TJV are a Dutch team. Amstel is the biggest Dutch one-day race and they really want to win it. It's also the strongest team TJV had in a one-day race this year. Kinda how Movistar goes bonkers with their leaders in Spanish races.

Yeah and it's just a very reasonable addition for both Van Aert and Roglic. Van Aert had no Roubaix to care for anymore, Roglic is relatively underraced and doing Ardennes anyway.

Amstel is also the race where having multiple leaders is much more useful than FW or Liege.

 

[Red Rick]

TJV to go thermonuclear from the bottom, and only Pog&Rog will stay with the mighty WVA. Rog will attack to finish the job only to be overtaken by inches by Pog, who will get another climb record to his collection.

Pog to do bike switch right at the bottom and be in time to just gift Roglic the win.

 

[Luthor]

Yeah and it's just a very reasonable addition for both Van Aert and Roglic. Van Aert had no Roubaix to care for anymore, Roglic is relatively underraced and doing Ardennes anyway.

Amstel is also the race where having multiple leaders is much more useful than FW or Liege.

WvA:
"The men from the Basque Country join us so we are going to have a strong team. I'm looking forward to it, but I was really thinking about this race today," Van Aert said.

"Our tactics? That becomes obvious. I am faster at the finish and Roglič can make more of the race."

So Roglic will attack at Amstel ?

 

[Red Rick]

WvA:
"The men from the Basque Country join us so we are going to have a strong team. I'm looking forward to it, but I was really thinking about this race today," Van Aert said.

"Our tactics? That becomes obvious. I am faster at the finish and Roglič can make more of the race."

So Roglic will attack at Amstel ?

Roglic will sit on van Aert and tell him not to pull too hard so he can take the bonus seconds away accidentally winning the Amstel