Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[classicomano]

Pretty good start coming right back from altitude.

 

[Lequack]

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Tomorrow starts Roglic's journey to Dumoulin's land. No, he won't win the Tour. At least not this year. But I expect a very strong performance throughout the three weeks in France. Be it a stage win, a GC top12 or at least a couple of strong showings against the GC contenders in select stages. Anything less would be a disappointment. What I'm 100% sure about is that he'll fly in the two ITTs. I'm not expecting the yellow jersey after the first stage because at least Dennis should be too strong, but Rogla won't be far behind. Then on stage 5 I'm going to be ready for a pleasant surprise.

For the prologue tomorrow (Ster ZLM) a top5 would be nice. At first I thought Van Emden is riding this but he's not on the startlist anymore. Now maybe even a win is not that improbable. But he is coming straight from altitude training on Sierra Nevada where he spent three weeks with Gesink and Bennett. His form is a bit of a question mark. We'll see.

Actually he won it right now

This is great news, I thought for sure the prologue was too short (~8 minutes) and would suit the very powerful guys more. Well Kittel was only 3 sec behind so it was really close.

And now he also has the points and leaders jersey :razz:

 

[classicomano]

Is that a telemark landing celebration?

 

[johnymax]

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Is that a telemark landing celebration?

I think it is. He did the same on the podium in Romandie. It should become his signature celebration.

Anyway it's great to see the legs are still strong. It's his fifth win of the season. Now he's in prime position to take the overall, too.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Can he become the greatest slovenian cyclist? Who's shoes does he need to step in?

 

[classicomano]

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Can he become the greatest slovenian cyclist? Who's shoes does he need to step in?

 

[portugal11]

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Can he become the greatest slovenian cyclist? Who's shoes does he need to step in?

Where is flo? I want her to describe contador's weight. He looks chuby as *** and still was able to win on alpe d'huez

 

[johnymax]

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Can he become the greatest slovenian cyclist? Who's shoes does he need to step in?

It's between Brajkovič and Špilak right now. Špilak has the better palmares but with him being kind of a one trick pony (he targets only one week stage races), I can understand how somebody still puts Jani ahead of him.

Roglič should surpass both pretty easily. He could have more pro wins than both of them combined already by the end of this season.

 

[May0maniac]

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Can he become the greatest slovenian cyclist? Who's shoes does he need to step in?

It's between Brajkovič and Špilak right now. Špilak has the better palmares but with him being kind of a one trick pony (he targets only one week stage races), I can understand how somebody still puts Jani ahead of him.

Roglič should surpass both pretty easily. He could have more pro wins than both of them combined already by the end of this season.

To be fair, Jani has a 9th place on gc in the Tour, but just like Spilak he was also mostly a specialist for one week stage races (as a pro).

 

[Valv.Piti]

RIp Jani PCM 2006. I always felt he could do much, much better than what he did, seemed to be a better rider compared to his peers at that time, Lofkvist and Gerdemann for examplem, the next big hopes.

 

[Squire]

Tadej Valjavec deserves an honorable mention here, I think. Especially if Jani's 9th in the Tour is counted as an impressive result.

Valjavec had multiple GT top tens and lots of top 5s in week-long stage races. Though I'm not sure if he ever actually won anything.

 

[shalgo]

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Tadej Valjavec deserves an honorable mention here, I think. Especially if Jani's 9th in the Tour is counted as an impressive result.

Valjavec had multiple GT top tens and lots of top 5s in week-long stage races. Though I'm not sure if he ever actually won anything.

This post made me curious, as I couldn't remember any Valjavec victories. According to CQ ranking, his only wins were two Slovenian Championships and the 2002 Settimana Lombarda, the latter ahead of Scarponi in 2nd.

Valjavec was leading the 2009 Tour de Suisse entering the final time trial, but finished 59th on that stage to wind up 7th overall.

 

[Kokoso]

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Can he become the greatest slovenian cyclist? Who's shoes does he need to step in?

This "fat" Contador was the best version of him. No longer fed by steaks though and even losing weight doesn't help

 

[portugal11]

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Can he become the greatest slovenian cyclist? Who's shoes does he need to step in?

This "fat" Contador was the best version of him. No longer fed by steaks though and even losing weight doesn't help

Lol, this version was the 2010 contador not the 2009 version

 

[Valv.Piti]

I like the fact we are speaking about versions of Contador, like he is a different rider form year to year. Which is kinda true about him.

 

[portugal11]

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I like the fact we are speaking about versions of Contador, like he is a different rider form year to year. Which is kinda true about him.

He was (more or less) the same climber ( his time trial was the main difference, varied a lot in that period) between 2007-2011, maybe his 2010 version was the weakest version of him in those years

 

[Kokoso]

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Can he become the greatest slovenian cyclist? Who's shoes does he need to step in?

This "fat" Contador was the best version of him. No longer fed by steaks though and even losing weight doesn't help

Lol, this version was the 2010 contador not the 2009 version

I guess I'm missing something, please explain.

 

[johnymax]

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Tadej Valjavec deserves an honorable mention here, I think. Especially if Jani's 9th in the Tour is counted as an impressive result.

Valjavec had multiple GT top tens and lots of top 5s in week-long stage races. Though I'm not sure if he ever actually won anything.

He does. He is the best Slovenian GT rider up to now. But he lacks wins. He rarely took initiative and usually followed wheels until it brought him a top ten place. Although in some Giros he was maybe a top five climber, but usually had a bad day where he lost too much time and ended just inside or just outside the top10.

Oh and about best Slovenian cyclist ever...after today it's Špilak if there's been any doubt.

 

[johnymax]

Apparently Rogla was involved in a crash today. I have no other information. Hopefully he is ok.

 

[Lequack]

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Apparently Rogla was involved in a crash today. I have no other information. Hopefully he is ok.

That always sucks, especially before the Tour. Here is what the team said:

 

[GP Blanco]

Roglic going for the polka dots?

 

[pablohidalgo7]

Re: The official Primož Roglič is the new Landa thread

Not enough energy at the end, but his climbing was quite impressive during the first half of the stage, for sure the best is still to come for Rogla.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Maassen said Roglic is struggling in the heat. He felt well when it was raining earlier in the stage, but in the end it got hotter again and he struggled with that.

Seems like Spilak or Pinot then. Better in rain and cold then in the hot weather

 

[johnymax]

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Maassen said Roglic is struggling in the heat. He felt well when it was raining earlier in the stage, but in the end it got hotter again and he struggled with that.

Seems like Spilak or Pinot then. Better in rain and cold then in the hot weather

He suffers in the heat a little but not in an extreme way like Spilak. More than with the heat I think he struggled with the three steep climbs one after another. In the first two he looked pretty impressive actually but Mont du Chat was little too much. He also said he still feels some pain from the crashes from two days ago, so he wasn't 100%. All in all it was a good performance that bodes well for the next stages. He'll try again in the mountains and he still has the ITT to look forward to. A stage win is his priority but why not, he should also try and fight for the polka dot jersey.

 

[pablohidalgo7]

Re: The official Primož Roglič is the new Landa thread

Today stage was a big opportunity and I think he was strong enough to win. In fact it was a shame that Ulssi and Gallopin (both bad clients in the sprint) came back to Rogla and Barguil, in that moment I Knew that Mollema would take the victory.

Hopefully he will try again before the TT that of course is still his best chance.