Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[dercuforever]

Roglic did quite a long effort at Itzulia Basque Country stage 6. He seems to have to capacity to do so, but he may view this a very risky for a GT. (aka Yates 2018 Giro)

 

[Red Rick]

Roglic did quite a long effort at Itzulia Basque Country stage 6. He seems to have to capacity to do so, but he may view this a very risky for a GT. (aka Yates 2018 Giro)

Oh god not the Yates too aggressive thing again.

 

[dercuforever]

Oh god not the Yates too aggressive thing again.

I mean, of course you need to take every opportunities you get, but if you go to the absolute limit every day for an extended period of time, you will be more tired.
The other who are trying to follow you are also at 100%, unless they let you go on purpose, which would be a bit dumb.
But in this scenario everyone rely a bit more on their recovery capabilities, which may or may not be proportionnal to their strength in race.
(for the record, I was very happy to see Simon attack when ever he could in that Giro)

Anyway, even if there is no truth in this, maybe some rider do believe it and ride accordingly.

 

[johnymax]

A great attack, but what a stupid stupid crash

 

[Red Rick]

Never a dull moment

 

[Bonimenier]

Great to see him attack, but I can't say I was surprised when he crashed. People keep saying he is a good descender. I have no idea why.

 

[Eeslliw]

A great attack, but what a stupid stupid crash

Even attack was stupid with so much straight roads where group is much stronger (look how much Storer lost after descent on flat roads). He would be caught even without crash. He really surprised me with today riding, in negative way. I am really scratching my head what was he thinking.

 

[Eeslliw]

Great to see him attack, but I can't say I was surprised when he crashed. People keep saying he is a good descender. I have no idea why.

He is fast descender for sure, he just crashes sometimes.

 

[johnymax]

Even attack was stupid with so much straight roads where group is much stronger (look how much Storer lost after descent on flat roads). He would be caught even without crash. He really surprised me with today riding, in negative way. I am really scratching my head what was he thinking.

I don't know. He should be stronger than the climbers behind on the flat. The GC group got destroyed on the climb. There were riders alone and in groups of 2 and 3. Who does the chasing? You never know in these situations. If Kuss was able to stay with the first chasers to disrupt the chase, it would have been a great situation. We could be looking at close to 30s gain for Roglič and pretty much game over for the overall GC.

But now everything changes. We don't know how he'll be feeling after the crash. It'll bother him some for sure. Vuelta is as open as ever.

 

[cen]

He overdid it.. I was immediatelly concerned when I saw him divebombing throug the corners.

 

[Red Rick]

I don't know. He should be stronger than the climbers behind on the flat. The GC group got destroyed on the climb. There were riders alone and in groups of 2 and 3. Who does the chasing? You never know in these situations. If Kuss was able to stay with the first chasers to disrupt the chase, it would have been a great situation. We could be looking at close to 30s gain for Roglič and pretty much game over for the overall GC.

But now everything changes. We don't know how he'll be feeling after the crash. It'll bother him some for sure. Vuelta is as open as ever.

I'm more confident than yesterday. That attack was savage, and Mas was on the ropes

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Roglic wants to be like his idol Vincenzo Nibali. But he lacks the skills.

 

[Red Rick]

The problem isn't that he's a bad descender the problem is that he isn't as great as he thinks he is.

 

[Eeslliw]

Roglic wants to be like his idol Vincenzo Nibali. But he lacks the skills.

The Sharks thropy cabinet is still bigger indeed

 

[Rackham]

I thought it was beautiful tbh, even the crash is A-Typical Roglic. As long as he isn't badly hurt, he'll be fine.

 

[Eeslliw]

The problem isn't that he's a bad descender the problem is that he isn't as great as he thinks he is.

When did he crashed on a descent other than today and 2x PN, Giro 2019? Probably some more, but I don't remember. That Dauphine 2020 crash was mechanical.

I am still more worried about him riding in peloton and crashing than descending really.

 

[JosefK]

At least he didn't look too scraped up after today's slide. Even on the smallish spot where his shorts were torn, there wasn't much red.

 

[Eeslliw]

At least he didn't look too scraped up after today's slide. Even on the smallish spot where his shorts were torn, there wasn't much red.

Yea If he really needed to crash, that was the perfect way. Low impact and nice slide on dusty asphalt to absorb crash energy. So all in all, he was lucky. But now is enough, stay on the damn bike Primož.

 

[Carols]

The Sharks thropy cabinet is still bigger indeed

Yeah but it'll never have Nib's coveted Olympic Gold medal and Roglic's does .

 

[Carols]

Let's face it anyone who made it to world class flying off a 185 meter hill is an adrenalin junkie. Today he had Legs and wanted to totally demoralize Movi and Ineos. He succeded with Ineos but crashed because he was so into flying downhill he overdid a corner.

Pure Balls move, reminded me a bit of Contador, if you feel good Attack! What a shame he crashed .

He doesn't have the advantage of riding as a kid, and coming up through the cycling ranks, borrowed his first bike at 22. So he still has a lot to learn about bike handling and race nous. Meanwhile he's having fun. Coming over the line he was laughing!

 

[Oldermanish]

I'm more confident than yesterday. That attack was savage, and Mas was on the ropes

I'd agree and critics of Roglic's "conservative" attacking now suggest it was pure stupidity. It was the exact, perfect opportunity to do what he did and, but for a crash he fortunately overcame; would have been one of the definitive points in the Vuelta. As the current situation stands JV has a new team to work for them all week with Cofidis also in the wings.
Movistar were fortunate but they also gained a good gap on Ineos so they can relax somewhat and look for moments to attach Roglic. All in all it does simplify JV strategy.

 

[will-10]

When do we file this guy alongside Thomas?

 

[Rackham]

When do we file this guy alongside Thomas?

I don't think I've ever found a race in which G Thomas was exciting. Roglic meanwhile is a popcorn summer blockbuster who keeps on entertaining.

I bet the Movistar guys are now thinking "WTF!". Unpredictability is a valuable trait.

 

[KZD]

I quite like Roglić but its because of these moments that he isn't as good as Pogačar.

 

[Red Rick]

I quite like Roglić but its because of these moments that he isn't as good as Pogačar.

I'm here for the pain and the glory. Pogacar offers nothing of the former