Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[red_flanders]

As in the end, that is the thing, on why it came to it, as best stage racer of current generation, and beyond, should never had have need to ask, if he will be supported at the Tour. Anyway, it is what it is. Fingers crossed for a good outcome and looking forward to this new era of racing.

If he were the best stage racer of this generation there would be no questions to ask.

 

[IndianCyclist]

After GC Kuss won the Vuelta, the job of Roglic was done. His padawan reached his goal, and it was time for Roglic to move on.

There can be only two

 

[Berniece]

Plugge: "I'm grateful for the road to the top we've started together, personally I will always admire him, however there is a moment that it's better for both parties to part ways. Recently he put in his transfer request, and we understand it. We respect him too much to deny him a transfer"

Doesn't sound like much of a buy out to me.

I think he wanted out after the Vuelta. He came perfectly prepared, was ready to win his 4th Vuelta and become the record holder. Then the opportunity to fight for it was taken away by the team, and he had to let someone else win it.

Knowing how selfish he is, this must have been very disappointing. Also for his own ambitions for the future this method doesn’t work. Better to get out, join a decent team and try to win the TDF and Vuelta.

 

[SHAD0W93]

There can be only two

View: https://youtu.be/ooN9xdAgi5w?si=6MtYtcNIApeLWTQr

 

[Mayomaniac]

According to la Gazzetta it's either Bora or Ineos (If they won't get Evenepoel) for him

 

[Red Rick]

How it hasn't been confirmed yet by the fake Bora twitter account is beyond me.

 

[pelotonIQ]

Will be weird seeing Roglic in another jersey.

Ineos probably gives him the best chanches of winning TdF

 

[Mayomaniac]

How it hasn't been confirmed yet by the fake Bora twitter account is beyond me.

Specialized probably wants to keep him, so Bora kinda makes sense.

 

[acm]

According to la Gazzetta it's either Bora or Ineos (If they won't get Evenepoel) for him

It's Bora then. Primož will not wait for Ineos to decide.

 

[Rackham]

It's Bora then. Primož will not wait for Ineos to decide.

I noticed him riding with Vlasov in the group yesterday, i.e. he even spoke to him. It's happening.

And to be honest it does make sense in many ways, even as a sponsor with economic interests in that part of Europe (Germany, Austria & their immediate neighbors, like Slovenia).

I heard that Bora kitchen stuff is quite popular in Slovenia, i.e. they even have a Slovenian version of their website: https://www.bora.com/si/sl/

Let's hope this post doesn't age badly if I'm wrong!

 

[Rackham]

Anyway Hindley > Kuss.

That's a fact. Have at me GC Kuss acolytes, I don't care. Hindley's Giro win > Kuss' Vuelta.

 

[Rob5091]

If Ineos do not get Roglic, I've no idea what they are going to do with only 15 riders for next year. They need more then 1 guy. Buy up the oldies from Israel? Dawg returns!

 

[CyclistAbi]

If he were the best stage racer of this generation there would be no questions to ask.

There won't be. In the new team.

 

[CyclistAbi]

One most understand that, for years now, prominent names in cycling were saying, if Rogla wants to win the Tour, he will need to change teams. Now i always knew the basis of this debates had some ground, but i didn't read too much into it. Vuelta 2023, that, on the other hand fully convinced me it's time to move on. Not just about Sepp winning. On how they raced. As a team, that was just like saying Rogla, we need you to move on.

 

[bNator]

Knowing how selfish he is, this must have been very disappointing.

Your boy stage hunter will have plenty of opportunity to show his selfless nature in the upcoming years as well, should he be teamed up with Wout&Winge. Samen Winnen, my friend😉 Better get used to it

 

[CyclistAbi]

It's not selfishness. You play your role. Prepare, and when others can't any more, it's up to you then. To make a difference. The team hence must support that, not to hinder it, due to some other interests. Without that, there is really no point any more, to prepare. Best hence to go i an environment, where that will be a requirement again.

 

[theyoungest]

Anyway Hindley > Kuss.

That's a fact. Have at me GC Kuss acolytes, I don't care. Hindley's Giro win > Kuss' Vuelta.

I like Roglic, but the constant need among his fans to diminish other people's accomplishments is quite annoying. Hindley's Giro win was also more impressive than Roglic' Giro win, so what does that have to do with anything?

Kuss saved your guy's Giro. That's a fact. Without Kuss, Roglic would never, ever have won that Giro. I think it's the most obvious example of a teammate saving a GC win I've seen in recent history. So have some respect.

 

[Berniece]

Your boy stage hunter will have plenty of opportunity to show his selfless nature in the upcoming years as well, should he be teamed up with Wout&Winge. Samen Winnen, my friend😉 Better get used to it

Remco has no problem riding for others, has shown that already on multiple occasions.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Remco has no problem riding for others, has shown that already on multiple occasions.

Perfect teammate then for Jonas i guess.

 

[CyclistAbi]

I like Roglic, but the constant need among his fans to diminish other people's accomplishments is quite annoying. Hindley's Giro win was also more impressive than Roglic' Giro win, so what does that have to do with anything?

Kuss saved your guy's Giro. That's a fact. Without Kuss, Roglic would never, ever have won that Giro. I think it's the most obvious example of a teammate saving a GC win I've seen in recent history. So have some respect.

Kuss is half Slovenian and we will always cheer for him. As for Hindley winning Giro in grander style then Rogla. That is rather debatable. But in the end both won the Giro and hence chapeau!

 

[Berniece]

Perfect teammate then for Jonas i guess.

Sure, unless he’s better

 

[Red Rick]

Sure, unless he’s better

Unironically think winning the Tour like Kuss' Vuelta while at Jumbo is his best bet, just like for Roglic.

Realistically, a big reason to go to Ineos could be $$$.

 

[Rackham]

I like Roglic, but the constant need among his fans to diminish other people's accomplishments is quite annoying. Hindley's Giro win was also more impressive than Roglic' Giro win, so what does that have to do with anything?

Kuss saved your guy's Giro. That's a fact. Without Kuss, Roglic would never, ever have won that Giro. I think it's the most obvious example of a teammate saving a GC win I've seen in recent history. So have some respect.

Van Aert rode himself into the dirt (figuratively & literally) for Vingegaard on the cobbled stage last year in the TdF 2022 after Vinge's chain drop. So that one probably ranks pretty highly as well on the "teammate saves the GC win" list.

But the point about Hindley is he can do the job for Rog in the TdF 2024 which Kuss usually does at Jumbo, but better. It'll also give all the proverbial Rog haters something to complain about as well, which is what most of them want, i.e. to say "Hindley saved Rog's GC win".

So it's a win-win-win proposition really, i.e. Rog wins a GT (preferably the TdF eh), Hindley becomes the new Kuss, but better, and Rog's haters get to say he only won thanks to a teammate.

The balance of the cycling universe will be intact.

 

[Berniece]

Unironically think winning the Tour like Kuss' Vuelta while at Jumbo is his best bet, just like for Roglic.

Realistically, a big reason to go to Ineos could be $$$.

I’ll wait until Evenepoel is 27 and did at least 1 TDF in proper form without issues before thinking he’ll never win it as Vingegaard and Pogacar did before him.

 

[danielovichdk2]

He will be 34 at next years tour.