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No way Roglic has a chance winning the Tour. He has not the qualities to beat Vingegaard and Pogacar. Not even Evenepoel. He's also getting a little older. Last season he made little impression. Destroyed during the first (TT)stage in the Giro. And after Evenepoel had to abandon, he could barely overrule the old and worn out Thomas at the end of the Giro. During the Vuelta, the last week, he tried to attack his own teammates Kuss and Vingegaard. But he was brought back by opponents from other teams.
Staying in the weels till the last hundred of meters and take time (but not against Vingegaard !) in the uphill last TT won't let him win the Tour.
 
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shadowrider said:
No way Roglic has a chance winning the Tour. He has not the qualities to beat Vingegaard and Pogacar. Not even Evenepoel. He's also getting a little older. Last season he made little impression. Destroyed during the first (TT)stage in the Giro. And after Evenepoel had to abandon, he could barely overrule the old and worn out Thomas at the end of the Giro. During the Vuelta, the last week, he tried to attack his own teammates Kuss and Vingegaard. But he was brought back by opponents from other teams.
Staying in the weels till the last hundred of meters and take time (but not against Vingegaard !) in the uphill last TT won't let him win the Tour.
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Very objective opinion... :rolleyes:
 
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Very objective opinion... :rolleyes:
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Yes indeed, objective. Especially compared to the many subjective reactions (from Roglic fans?). Roglic has had years to win the Tour. Setbacks (illness, crashes) of opponents are hardly taken into account. But if Roglic does not win a grand tour, it is always the fault of less than ideal preparation. Stay serious for a moment. Hopefully there won't be any hindrance for Roglic for the next Tour, so we can see that he will be clearly defeated then too.
 
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shadowrider said:
No way Roglic has a chance winning the Tour. He has not the qualities to beat Vingegaard and Pogacar. Not even Evenepoel. He's also getting a little older. Last season he made little impression. Destroyed during the first (TT)stage in the Giro. And after Evenepoel had to abandon, he could barely overrule the old and worn out Thomas at the end of the Giro. During the Vuelta, the last week, he tried to attack his own teammates Kuss and Vingegaard. But he was brought back by opponents from other teams.
Staying in the weels till the last hundred of meters and take time (but not against Vingegaard !) in the uphill last TT won't let him win the Tour.
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Hello Troll. Nice post.
 
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Yes indeed, objective. Especially compared to the many subjective reactions (from Roglic fans?). Roglic has had years to win the Tour. Setbacks (illness, crashes) of opponents are hardly taken into account. But if Roglic does not win a grand tour, it is always the fault of less than ideal preparation. Stay serious for a moment. Hopefully there won't be any hindrance for Roglic for the next Tour, so we can see that he will be clearly defeated then too.
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You mean Remco.
 
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Yes, he really has no chance of winning the TdF...

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You mean Remco.
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Evenepoel had years to win the Tour ? Explain ? Evenepoel not winning a grand tour is always the fault of less than ideal preparation ? Explain ? I have never heard Evenepoel declare that as the major reason. Any hindrance for Evenepoel as an excuse he won't win the Tour 2024 ? Explain ? Evenepoel is not considering himself as a favourite. He would be happy with a top five. And he hopes to win the Tour one day. That is very reasonable and objective. So, your reaction shows a lot of frustration. I wish Pogacar, Roglic and Evenepoel the best in their fight against Vingegaard. But please let us remain objective. Under normal circumstances they have little or no chance.
 
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Yes, he really has no chance of winning the TdF...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1741469623613043054
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Considering Vinge was at the top of majority of these, Pog was up there substantially and was destroyed by Vinge, and Vinge was able to follow Roglic easily the third week I think we can all agree it will be hard for him to win. Now where he can gain time is with his stomps, working with Pog/UAE, and riding a great TT.
 
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Do you know the meaning of "troll" ? What I have written here are simply facts. History, statistics. Sorry I didn't mention Almeida as a possible rival of Roglic :D
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Facts and statistics are about the past and they give you no sure indication about the future.

I would advise other posters not to reply to such low and provocative statements with no more depth than a shallow puddle of mud...but they are grown ups and this is the off season and everyone needs stretching their fingers in a punching bag...so be my guest.
 
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No way Roglic has a chance winning the Tour. He has not the qualities to beat Vingegaard and Pogacar. Not even Evenepoel. He's also getting a little older. Last season he made little impression. Destroyed during the first (TT)stage in the Giro. And after Evenepoel had to abandon, he could barely overrule the old and worn out Thomas at the end of the Giro. During the Vuelta, the last week, he tried to attack his own teammates Kuss and Vingegaard. But he was brought back by opponents from other teams.
Staying in the weels till the last hundred of meters and take time (but not against Vingegaard !) in the uphill last TT won't let him win the Tour.
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acm said:
Yes, he really has no chance of winning the TdF...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1741469623613043054
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But did the younger and stronger Roglic already won the Tour ? Not even against a 21-year old Pogacar in 2020.
Theoretically Roglic has still a chance to win the Tour. But against Vingegaard ? Against a since 2020 stronger Pogacar (but maybe not in his best form after participating at the Giro) ? Evenepoel has the same chance (or no chance) than Roglic to win the Tour later this year. But Evenepoel will probably win the Tour in the future. Roglic didn't win the Worlds during his career. Evenepoel did already.
 
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