Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[Netserk]

In that 1'15" where we only saw the breakaway, I think Vingegaard attacked the group and dropped Ayuso and Uijtdebroeks while dragging Mas with him.

 

[Froome]

This precisely is what I'm talking about. You should not bridge to a teammate if you're going to drag a rival too, and that's what Vingegaard did. You should ride behind him for as long as you're sure he's spent and that you can drop him permanently. There's no need to hurry things up, cause a teammate is up front, not a rival. But I guess this doesn't apply to Vingegaard...

Just like Roglic attacked on the last km of sierra de bejes when Vingegaard was at front, and at the same time he dragged ayuso with him, couldn't drop ayuso, but dropped the red jersey Kuss.......


The hypocrisy of Roglic fans, unbeliavable.

 

[Blanco]

Just like Roglic attacked on the last km of sierra de bejes when Vingegaard was at front, and at the same time he dragged ayuso with him, couldn't drop ayuso, but dropped the red jersey Kuss.......


The hypocrisy of Roglic fans, unbeliavable.

Did he dragged somebody to Vingegaard?!!!
Did he stopped when he saw he didn't dropped them?!!!
Are you noticing the difference?!!!

 

[Elos Anjos]

Just like Roglic attacked on the last km of sierra de bejes when Vingegaard was at front, and at the same time he dragged ayuso with him, couldn't drop ayuso, but dropped the red jersey Kuss.......


The hypocrisy of Roglic fans, unbeliavable.

You're are out of element Donny

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Did he dragged somebody to Vingegaard?!!!
Did he stopped when he saw he didn't dropped them?!!!
Are you noticing the difference?!!!

Vingegaard did drag Mas with him, but he later dropped like a stone, so it didn't exactly hurt the team. Also if you have a GT winner in your team, whether that be Vingegaard or Roglič or someone else, you can never really expect them not to ride if they think they have the legs for it.

 

[Netserk]

Vingegaard did drag Mas with him, but he later dropped like a stone, so it didn't exactly hurt the team.

In hindsight, Rogla dropping Kuss on Angliru didn't change the GC order, so it didn't exactly hurt the team.

But not everyone took it well.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

In hindsight, Rogla dropping Kuss on Angliru didn't change the GC order, so it didn't exactly hurt the team.

But not everyone took it well.

Sure, but that also happened later in the race when the GC was almost settled. A lot of stuff could still happen after Javalambre.

 

[scribers]

It will be interesting if Kuss stays up there in GC the dynamic of the team.

I think Bora was interested before the Vuelta, the Vuelta just affirmed they could get him.

I think everyone noticed when there was not room for roglic on the tour squads. 90% of the teams wanted THAT problem

 

[kn0s]

Did he dragged somebody to Vingegaard?!!!
Did he stopped when he saw he didn't dropped them?!!!
Are you noticing the difference?!!!

But you are correct, if you are not strong enough, you should just stop

 

[Froome]

You're are out of element Donny

Not really, logic is your friend wannabe 😀. Stop being a cheap version of him.

 

[Froome]

Did he dragged somebody to Vingegaard?!!!
Did he stopped when he saw he didn't dropped them?!!!
Are you noticing the difference?!!!

He stopped so much that Kuss was dropped in sierra de bejes.

 

[SHAD0W93]

This precisely is what I'm talking about. You should not bridge to a teammate if you're going to drag a rival too, and that's what Vingegaard did. You should ride behind him for as long as you're sure he's spent and that you can drop him permanently. There's no need to hurry things up, cause a teammate is up front, not a rival. But I guess this doesn't apply to Vingegaard...

Which I agree with, Vingegaard most likely thought Mas would drop but he didn’t care since he didn’t want to lose time to Roglic. The team was Astana 2009, and fans can pick for yourself who you have as the Armstrong, Contador, and Klöden. If the two had it their way, I think they’d be attacking each other the whole race.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Not really, logic is your friend wannabe 😀. Stop being a cheap version of him.

Yawn. Are you @Ilmaestro99 puppet too? Or just laughing stock?

Just wondering what drives someone to come to a thread and make accusations to all Roglic fans about something that didn't happen. Looney.

 

[scribers]

My takeaway from the jumbo vuelta is the only way jumbo could lose the overall or even podium spots was to attack each other and for a little while there it looked like they were trying to do just that. Sanity finally came back to them and the podium for them ended perfectly. Vingo and roglics last legitimate shot at leadership was the ITT which Kuss surprisingly did well

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Im glad Vingegard went in La Vuelta 2023 because otherwise we would just have Kuss winning a Mickey mouse GC with no drama and Roglic winning all mountain stages after jumbo do the train and pull for the sprint. Vingegard brought attacks, drama, racing.

 

[Froome]

Yawn. Are you @Ilmaestro99 puppet too? Or just laughing stock?

Just wondering what drives someone to come to a thread and make accusations to all Roglic fans about something that didn't happen. Looney.

Like i said, stop trying to be a cheap version of logic is your friend, the original version is always better than the copy version, you are just a wannabe. Hell, logic is your friend when he wants can make some good arguments, you can't even do that, you have nothing 😀

When you decide to enter in a discussion with some decent arguments, quote me, until then, stop quoting my posts.

 

[acm]

Vingegaard might have followed but he never went to the front to catch his teammates. He was brought back until he could bridge. Who ironically unlike Roglic actually paced for Kuss after the team decision came down to let him win.

Yeah right.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1703060085591724118

View: https://twitter.com/Domestique___/status/1703060085591724118?t=xAxJZSICvBmC4uHH9syReg&s=19

 

[Elos Anjos]

The outcome of La Vuelta until the end of the Angliru stage was not "designed". Kuss won out of luck and due to Landa just being there by chance to pull him. Please don't tell me that Vingegaard following Roglic was caring about not going past Kuss...8 seconds people!

The point is that Vingegaard broke the pact of non-agression when he attacked out of nowhere before. Roglic just turned the favour in Angliru...no more Mr. Nice Guy. The difference is that Roglic played fair and square until that moment and never hid behind some bollocks like "I did it for my friend".

 

[Elos Anjos]

Like i said, stop trying to be a cheap version of logic is your friend, the original version is always better than the copy version, you are just a wannabe. Hell, logic is your friend when he wants can make some good arguments, you can't even do that, you have nothing 😀

When you decide to enter in a discussion with some decent arguments, quote me, until then, stop quoting my posts.

Arguments? You post the same pile of words all the time.
Dude, you have some inferiority complex. Grow up or block me.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Im glad Vingegard went in La Vuelta 2023 because otherwise we would just have Kuss winning a Mickey mouse GC with no drama and Roglic winning all mountain stages after jumbo do the train and pull for the sprint. Vingegard brought attacks, drama, racing.

You mean staged attacks? Jonas getting green light while other two sitting back and waiting, while Jonas is attacking.

Real excitement.

 

[CyclistAbi]

So likely new jerseys to get involved, to include Red Bull, for the Tour. This should be interesting. Don't really remember something like that.

 

[Froome]

You mean staged attacks? Jonas getting green light while other two sitting back and waiting, while Jonas is attacking.

Real excitement.

There's some riders that like to attack far from the finish line.

There was nothing that prevented Roglic from attacking earlier and anticipating Vingegaard's attacks.

Even so, you saw roglic attacking in the last Km of sierra de bejes, he couldn't drop ayuso, dragged ayuso with him. In the end, he just dropped Kuss. He didn't have the legs to do better, except dropping Kuss.

On angliru he moved like he wanted, just like on Javalambre.

 

[bNator]

Just like Roglic attacked on the last km of sierra de bejes when Vingegaard was at front, and at the same time he dragged ayuso with him, couldn't drop ayuso, but dropped the red jersey Kuss.......


The hypocrisy of Roglic fans, unbeliavable.

It’s not a hypocrisy- it’s just defence… There was a claim that Vingegaard didn’t pull when Roglic was in front. “Roglic fans” debunked this claim. That’s all there is to it. No hypocrisy and entirely believable…

And whoever perceives Roglic as the aggressor in the Kuss saga, needs a new pair of glasses. In the category of attacking and not caring about Kuss it’s 2:1 between Vingegaard and Roglic in Vuelta 2023, with Vinge leading as much as 2:0 at one point…

 

[SHAD0W93]

Yeah right.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1703060085591724118

View: https://twitter.com/Domestique___/status/1703060085591724118?t=xAxJZSICvBmC4uHH9syReg&s=19

You mean when Roglic got put on the front, started looking around, Landa went to attack, Roglic accelerated with him, and then everyone slowed down after which he later went back in the group? Where was all of Roglic’s help on stage 18?

 

[CyclistAbi]

To be hones i don't even know what we are talking about any more. That is it doesn't even make sense reading it any more. As it's not like some point is made and to be discussed after. Now we are basically writing and reading nonsense.