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??? he had the strongest team in the race by far.

also that doesn't even make sense. if they were actually bad and trying to help him lose the race then it would easily be his most impressive win.
The team was the strongest on 2 or 3 stages. There were plenty of times Roglic was left to fend for himself, add in Bora completely messing up stage 6, and their team wide sick fiasco. 2021 Vuelta Roglic was a lot stronger, while 2024 is arguable with 2019.
 
He did set-up Pogi. Might as well park it after that and rest up for his own targets.

Yeah Chris Horner can stick that in his pipe and smoke it.

But seriously, I'm glad he came out of this relatively unscathed. Some people always had impossible expectations. He 'won' his season 3 weeks ago with Vuelta number 4 & his 5th GT. Everything now (including in the rest of his career tbh) is bonus.

I said it weeks ago, i.e. expect nothing from the Worlds because he'll get nothing. Winning with Pog was the best case scenario for Rog & Slovenia (especially because if Pog hadn't won, all the sharks would be circling and blaming Rog, as per usual).
 
I'm just happy, he looks happy. It's not easy to be pushed aside by the GOAT of cycling of the same nation. But maybe it is easier, because Pog is just head nad shoulders better than anybody. He'll be able to talk about racing in the era of the best cyclist in the world (ever) while being one of the best for years also.

He needs to pick his battles going forward, arrive healthy still be a factor for years to come. I wouldn't go to tour if i was him, but on the other hand, he just want's to finish the damn thing healthy...i think he needs that closure, result doesn't even matter.
 
I'm just happy, he looks happy. It's not easy to be pushed aside by the GOAT of cycling of the same nation. But maybe it is easier, because Pog is just head nad shoulders better than anybody. He'll be able to talk about racing in the era of the best cyclist in the world (ever) while being one of the best for years also.
This post is gold and very true. Yeah I agree Roglic got no reason to hold his head down like at all, glad seeing him smile too as he is a legend and a good fellow nothing else so he deserves anything.
 
Too bad he didn't stay in the MVDP/Remco group for a bit, would be epic to see the classics repeat and forum trolling would go through the roof..

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The team was the strongest on 2 or 3 stages. There were plenty of times Roglic was left to fend for himself, add in Bora completely messing up stage 6, and their team wide sick fiasco. 2021 Vuelta Roglic was a lot stronger, while 2024 is arguable with 2019.

did you actually watch the race? the team set him up for huge attacks like 6 times. he was continually the only GC rider that had a teammate with him when a big selection happened. stage 6 was not a mess up, they let the 12th best climber in the race hold the jersey for the whole race while they had him at a comfortable gap from stage 13 on.
 
did you actually watch the race? the team set him up for huge attacks like 6 times. he was continually the only GC rider that had a teammate with him when a big selection happened. stage 6 was not a mess up, they let the 12th best climber in the race hold the jersey for the whole race while they had him at a comfortable gap from stage 13 on.
I did, the team fell apart repeatedly leaving Roglic to do it himself. On top of his bad stage having no one that helped them though had the luck of the stage finishing on a descent. Did you watch the race with the same eyes you used during 2022 Vuelta stage 17?
 
I did, the team fell apart repeatedly leaving Roglic to do it himself. On top of his bad stage having no one that helped them though had the luck of the stage finishing on a descent. Did you watch the race with the same eyes you used during 2022 Vuelta stage 17?

you're just flat out wrong though. the team fell apart once, on stage 20, because half the team got food poisoning. they still ended up with more riders than any other team in the selection on the penultimate climb, with a super ride from Roger Adria especially. what other stage did they fall apart on? on the only other mountain stage that they didn't dominate, stage 9, Roglic was in a group of 7 GC riders and still had a teammate with him the entire time, which nobody else had. everyone who attacked on that stage lost big time on the descent and final run in. on what stage did Roglic have to do anything but attack the last climb by himself? did you make this up in your own head?

here, since you clearly didn't watch the race i'll fill you in on what happened:
Stage 8: Martinez set a huge pace at the bottom of the final climb and split the group (with the help of a crash admittedly), Roglic then attacked repeatedly and won the stage. what else could they have done there?

Stage 11: Denz, Gamper and Martinez went into the breakaway, the first two fell back to help set a huge tempo on the final climb, in which Vlasov and Roglic dropped everyone with their own pace except for Mas. Roglic attacked, caught Martinez on the descent, who paced the group to help gain more time on the leader.

Stage 13: i mean, cmon. perfection.

Stage 15: Lipowitz dragged Roglic off the front of the GC group at the beginning of the steep part, but Roglic didn't have the legs to finish it off.

Stage 19: see stage 13
 
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Yes, yes... Roglic is old and washed. He's just a wheel sucker and his teammates always dragged him up, so he could sprint at the end. He should just end his career already.

RBH team in Vuelta was decent, not the best (UAE was better), but good enough to secure Roglic win.
 
What do you guys hope for Rog's career arc going forward? How competitive do you think he has to be in both/either GTs and/or prestige one-day races in order for his presence not to be icky/sad? Is there any risk that he'll carry on for too long and debase himself?
 
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What do you guys hope for Rog's career arc going forward? How competitive do you think he has to be in both/either GTs and/or prestige one-day races in order for his presence not to be icky/sad? Is there any risk that he'll carry on for too long and debase himself?
IMHO, Roglic won his last big win in 2024 Vuelta. I feel he is fading, he is less consistent than ever, even in this Vuelta, he had some troubles occasionally. I will wait for his 2025 racing program to access how many wins he will get but if he races against Vingegaard or Pogacar all year, he will not get relevant wins, not even in Pais Vasco.
 
What do you guys hope for Rog's career arc going forward? How competitive do you think he has to be in both/either GTs and/or prestige one-day races in order for his presence not to be icky/sad? Is there any risk that he'll carry on for too long and debase himself?
Next season a Tour podium and one week wins should still be possible. Another Vuelta possible as well if Pogacar and Vingegaard are not there. I dont think there is a big risk of his level dropping dramatically from this season to the next.
 
What do you guys hope for Rog's career arc going forward? How competitive do you think he has to be in both/either GTs and/or prestige one-day races in order for his presence not to be icky/sad? Is there any risk that he'll carry on for too long and debase himself?
I think only going full froomey would be sad, struggling to finish in the peloton is sad, I think worst case decline is to top 10 contender, but that is still pretty great.

He will probably try for the big races again next year, I agree with @Peyroteo94 that he is rather unlikely to win if he goes for the big races with Pogi, Vingo and Remco, but that shouldn't stop him from trying tho.
 
I hope he'll go to Giro if Pog and Vinge won't be there, and then stage hunt TdF. Vuelta is always an option for him and he'll go there despite any other of top 3 being there too.

In reality it's probably going to be another "all in" for Tour season. I doubt Red Bull would want it any other way. So, he'll be forced to pick his races towards Tour, peak there and "maybe" fight for third or top 5. As long as he finishes without injuries, it would be a great success.

Anything really, just don't crash for gods sake.