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[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Jesus wept, they've gone full Trump with that statement, just creating alternative facts.

Wright is in Van Poppels wheel the whole time, Roglic pulls off at the front, goes to the side and suddenly wants to drift back on Van Poppels wheel while Wright obviously does not want to be pushed into the barrier and they simply collide. Mad to blame that on Wright and to do so in a team statement multiple days later?

And what is that bizarre rambling of Plugge supposed to mean, bringing up the Pologne incident (which clearly was their riders fault?). It's like they know they're talking *** and just wants this to covered up by "bigger context of safety" or something.
I mean what the heck is even that finishing sentence: "I'm glad that Primoz is speaking out, looking in the mirror and naming the behaviour of riders as well."

Does not come across like looking in the mirror to me lol

 

[Extinction]

Roglič has never said anything about anyone, i.e. never complained, never moaned, never called a spade a spade. Colbrelli? He said nothing. The hay bale? He never criticized the TdF organizers. Countless incidents over the years & he always kept his mouth shut.

So well done Rogla for speaking out. Well done Plugge for supporting him & "lol" at the indignant reactions from the same people who're always quick to insult Roglič anyway, calling him a useless rider & saying it's always his fault.

I think they knew this would cause some heated reactions & would be quite controversial, but they did it anyway. Let's see where this goes.

It has nothing to do with personal preferences. I'm actually pissed he's out, because I wanted to see how the GC would have turned out. If Remco wins the glory is less without Primoz, however diservedly. What isn't acceptable, however, is casting aspersions when one only has to blame himself

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Come on now. Easy with the use of words pathetic, disgraceful and so on...
He probably didn't see the detailed video of the crash. When you are in the heat of the moment, giving everything and the crash happens in the blink of an eye, you probably don't even realise how it happened. If you add the immense disappointment and the realisation of another lost opportunity, it's easy to see someone else as a culprit. He'll change his mind in a couple of days. He is the last person to blame someone else for his mistakes.

What? He makes a statement like that, the team gets behind it and they supposedly didn't bother to look at the detailed video??? And that is supposed to make it better? Just accusing others of something you are responsible for yourself, and not even bothering to check the f***ing facts?

Yes this is pathetic, yes this is disgraceful. He's allowed to be disappointed and angry. In time he will understand there is nobody to blame but himself. So he but especially the team should have had the common sense to let things cool off and look at the facts before pointing fingers. Their stance toward Jakobsen, Lefevere and Evenepoel two years ago was a lot different. Not only are they a bunch of hypocrites, in this case they're not even in their (W)right.

 

[Volderke]

This statement changes things for me. Roglic was naturally a lot closer to the incident than any of us and since the footage is inconclusive, then I am going to trust him with that. If he was indeed pushed from behind then I see no reason why his statement would be a disgrace..

Btw all you guys mocking him for supposed head injuries are seriously out of line here!

The footage is 100% conclusive.
Roglic veered left after pulling on the front, enabling Pedersen, Ackermann, Van Poppel and Wright to sprint.
Wright was firmly in Van Poppel's wheel.

While losing meters to those 4, Roglic thought it was a good idea to slot in and fight for Van Poppel's wheel. Roglic made the move. Not Wright.
If you want to keep contact after pulling at the front, make sure you follow the last wheel of the group, unless someone leaves a gap on purpose.

A long explanation for something that is just natural for any rider, and I'm a bit gobsmacked that not only Roglic dares to accuse Wright, but especially Jumbo backing him and posting it on their website, under the banner of lobbying for rider's safety. They could have chosen a better example.

If you want a video, here is one:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1567186942919413762

View: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1567186942919413762

 

[SHAD0W93]

Roglič has never said anything about anyone, i.e. never complained, never moaned, never called a spade a spade. Colbrelli? He said nothing. The hay bale? He never criticized the TdF organizers. Countless incidents over the years & he always kept his mouth shut.

So well done Rogla for speaking out. Well done Plugge for supporting him & "lol" at the indignant reactions from the same people who're always quick to insult Roglič anyway, calling him a useless rider & saying it's always his fault.

I think they knew this would cause some heated reactions & would be quite controversial, but they did it anyway. Let's see where this goes.

Roglic could think Wright was behind him and came past but the video shows Roglic not knowing Wright was there and riding into him.

 

[Netserk]

Come on now. Easy with the use of words pathetic, disgraceful and so on...
He probably didn't see the detailed video of the crash. When you are in the heat of the moment, giving everything and the crash happens in the blink of an eye, you probably don't even realise how it happened. If you add the immense disappointment and the realisation of another lost opportunity, it's easy to see someone else as a culprit. He'll change his mind in a couple of days. He is the last person to blame someone else for his mistakes.

That is all fine and understandable, but should also make him refrain from publicly commenting the incident.

 

[luckyboy]

This is nuts, especially posting about rider safety with it. Abominable.

 

[Extinction]

The footage is 100% conclusive.
Roglic veered left after pulling on the front, enabling Pedersen, Ackermann, Van Poppel and Wright to sprint.
Wright was firmly in Van Poppel's wheel.

While losing meters to those 4, Roglic thought it was a good idea to slot in and fight for Van Poppel's wheel. Roglic made the move. Not Wright.
If you want to keep contact after pulling at the front, make sure you follow the last wheel of the group, unless someone leaves a gap on purpose.

A long explanation for something that is just natural for any rider, and I'm a bit gobsmacked that not only Roglic dares to accuse Wright, but especially Jumbo backing him and posting it on their website, under the banner of lobbying for rider's safety. They could have chosen a better example.

If you want a video, here is one:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1567186942919413762

View: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1567186942919413762

If I were Wright at the very least I'd tell Primoz and Jumbo they are out of their minds, at most sue for defamation.

 

[Phillip O'Garner]

What was Roglic expecting Wright to do? Teleport out of the way?

 

[bNator]

If I were Wright at the very least I'd tell Primoz and Jumbo they are out of their minds, at most sue for defamation.

Sue for defamation?!? Sure. Very sane opinion…

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1545076731287142404

View: https://twitter.com/sportschau/status/1545076731287142404

 

[Faserr]

Jumbo have made a mistake letting him put that out. Reeks of claiming special privilege due to being a GT winner. It's as embarrassing as a Lefebvre statement.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1545076731287142404

View: https://twitter.com/sportschau/status/1545076731287142404

Yes. I thought about this statement, too.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi2ya2q_Yf6AhVKRvEDHX8vCM4QFnoECBEQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyclingnews.com%2Fnews%2Fschachmann-calls-out-dangerous-riding-from-roglic-and-jumbo-visma-after-tour-de-france-crash%2F&usg=AOvVaw1G7z14w10o8jjS2iXJ7zb3

 

[Miha81]

Did not expect that kind of statements from Rogla. Second dissapointment following his crash

 

[Lequack]

More like Fred Wrong amirite?

 

[Extinction]

Sue for defamation?!? Sure. Very sane opinion…

I was being ironic, and can't stand letigious society. It only lines the pockets of lawyers. However, the only insanity here is the public statement of Roglic and his team. The only reason I have not lost all respect for him is compassion for his plight.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

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Roglic rode into Wright’s left elbow with his right arm and handle bar. Roglic caused his own crash. Wright had stayed in his lane and side of the road while Roglic came in from the left. You don’t need eyes in the back of your head when you have your peripheral and forward vision.

This video clearly shows that this statement is false: “Wright came from behind and rode the handlebars out of my hands before I knew it."
It’s hard to think they would lie on purpose, so clearly they can’t have seen these pictures. So stupid by the team to support such claims.

 

[Volderke]

Fred was Wright. Roglic was left.
If Roglic goes Wright, Roglic is wrong.

 

[Extinction]

This video clearly shows that this statement is false: “Wright came from behind and rode the handlebars out of my hands before I knew it."
It’s hard to think they would lie on purpose, so clearly they can’t have seen these pictures. So stupid by the team to support such claims.

Thanks for this. Let's see if Jumbo has the coglioni to correct its position, but I doubt it.

 

[Lequack]

He should have blamed Remco for the crash. Remco stopping for the flat gave Roglic too much adrenaline and he couldn't think straight in the finish. So you see, it was clearly Remco's fault.

 

[Volderke]

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Roglic rode into Wright’s left elbow with his right arm and handle bar. Roglic caused his own crash. Wright had stayed in his lane and side of the road while Roglic came in from the left. You don’t need eyes in the back of your head when you have your peripheral and forward vision.

Very insightful.
End of debate.

Now I wonder how fast JV will act in order to control the damage by getting the tweet and statement offline.

 

[Lequack]

Maybe Jumbo will sign Fred and part of the deal was taking the blame.

 

[bNator]

I can understand where Roglič’s statement comes from. He channelled his inner frustration to an external source. Not the right way if he wants to learn something. Not the right thing to do to Wright. Not a smart thing to say considering how many fans he will have lost.

However - due to the extreme setbacks he has had to deal with throughout his career (of his own doing or not) and due to his otherwise gentlemanly conduct, I don’t think this backlash is fully deserved. People make mistakes and this statement is one of them. It is not the end of the world and in the end of the day, there will be no negative consequence of this statement for anyone but Roglič himself…

So calm down a little…

 

[Rollthedice]

Astonishing. It is hard to find a logical explanation for these statements.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

You either retire a hero or ride long enough to see yourself become the villain.

 

[Rollthedice]