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CyclistAbi

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Froome said:
Someone thinking that roglic will not win the Tour, doesn't mean that someone thinks he will not win anything. In the "worst scenario" roglic will always win one or two one week races next year.
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I feel that it does make sense to include worst case scenario in your strategy. But after that is done, there is no real need to be that pessimistic. So lets stick with the Tour.

P.S. Does Jonas believe Rogla can win the Tour?
 
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CyclistAbi said:
I feel that it does make sense to include worst case scenario in your strategy. But after that is done, there is no real need to be that pessimistic. So lets stick with the Tour.

P.S. Does Jonas believe Rogla can win the Tour?
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My point was just that i don't see nobody telling that roglic will not win anything when the season starts. My wish is that roglic loses every race because i don't like his style of racing, but one thing is my wishes, other thing is reality, and the reality is that roglic will always win races every year, even in the worst scenario for him, he will always going to win some one week races, because he is one of the best riders in the world.

Jonas is a gentleman.
 
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theyoungest said:
Stranger things have happened. Nibali, Sastre, and Evans have won the Tour, all of them with contemporary rivals who were clearly better. And Roglic is more talented than these guys were. All it takes is Vingegaard to crash out, Pogi to be tired from the Giro, and Roglic becomes the no. 1 favourite to win the Tour.
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Exactly. As the expression goes, you have to be in it to win it. If he goes to the Tour as leader with a strong team, he can capitalize on any favorable opportunities. He was not going to be in that position again with Visma.
 
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My point was just that i don't see nobody telling that roglic will not win anything when the season starts.
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Fair point. This then did settle, compared to previous seasons.

My wish is that roglic loses every race because i don't like his style of racing, but one thing is my wishes, other thing is reality, and the reality is that roglic will always win races every year, even in the worst scenario for him, he will always going to win some one week races, because he is one of the best riders in the world.
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Yeah, though luck. Considering Christmas is over such wishes likely not to be granted any more. On top of that, did you get any gifts this year, or Santa made a detour? Considering behaviour. As for Rogla beating all the exciting riders at the Tour. Will be interesting to see if claims, on how Rogla is a boring rider, will be able to survive that. We'll see.
 
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Froome said:
Maybe dropping him? But guess what, there's one or two favourites that will gain time in the TTs to roglic, so it wouldn't be bad for them just following roglic's wheel during the Tour and just lose a couple seconds in the last 500 meters.
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Roglič is a fairly good time trialist himself, so time will tell what kind of differences will be made there. That doesn't mean he won't lose time to Vingegaard or others, but it would be a mistake to take it for granted.
 
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Froome said:
Maybe dropping him?
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I guess that indeed could be worth a try.

But guess what, there's one or two favourites that will gain time in the TTs to roglic, so it wouldn't be bad for them just following roglic's wheel during the Tour and just lose a couple seconds in the last 500 meters.
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The longer we will get into the race the more nervous the opponents will likely get. That is if Rogla won't get dropped and basically watching Rogla polishing the golden helmet.
 
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SHAD0W93 said:
Exactly. If they can’t drop him, why wouldn’t he use his superior sprint to gain time and wins like others previously.
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In my opinion Pogi is rather OK, sprinting, Jonas and Remco likely less. Jonas will likely try to drop everybody on a suitable climb. For Remco i am not sure. Likely he will try to stay in contention for as long as possible. So it should be interesting. The dynamics. And indeed it could come down to the final ITT. Here i feel that would suit Rogla the most. Out of top 4.
 
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Froome said:
My point was just that i don't see nobody telling that roglic will not win anything when the season starts. My wish is that roglic loses every race because i don't like his style of racing, but one thing is my wishes, other thing is reality, and the reality is that roglic will always win races every year, even in the worst scenario for him, he will always going to win some one week races, because he is one of the best riders in the world.

Jonas is a gentleman.
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What is it about a rider being smart and riding to his strengths that gets your panties in such a twist? You prefer the Pinots of the bunch who's reach always exceeds their grasp? Failing spectacularly gets old after awhile too when it's pretty much all they do.
 
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