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VayaVayaVaya said:
Giro
  • Length: 19.6km
  • Winning Time: 21:18
  • Type: Flat
  • Key contenders:
    • Remco - 1st, 55.2km/h
    • Ganna - 2nd, 54.2km/h
    • Roglic - 6th, 53.4km/h
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This was Remco’s masterpiece, again. Averaging 1.0 kms per hour more than Ganna. Incredible, on this level.

Remco’s thighs are extraterrestrial.

When Big Ramy recently won his first Mr Olympia title, his thighs were almost 1.5 times as big as the thighs of the second placed man… 1.5 times as big! Picture: https://www.magzter.com/stories/Mens-Interest/Muscular-Development/BIG-RAMY .

And that’s almost the relation between Remco’s TT at the Giro, and Ganna‘s.

I think Remco’s thighs are the best in current pro cycling. Fleshy, powerful, they are perfect to ride a bicycle with maximum speed. The thighs, dreams are made of.
 
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Froome said:
He didn't won that much in the descents, if i'm not wrong he won 1 min and 15 seconds in the two climbs, but yeah, he did a good descent in the TT, he improved in that regard.

Next year's last TT is a bit similar like this year, but even more difficult.
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Jonas was over 30 seconds up on Tadej on the descents, before the climb. Tadej took a bike change which added maybe 10 seconds and turned out to be no advantage on the climb. Bilbao had kept his TT bike throughout and rode the descents very, very well and had a great result. Jonas just rode better all around but didn't waste momentum at all.
It's a wake-up to opponents when the TT is key; you better know the line and take whatever necessary risky opportunities that come up.
 
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Red Rick said:
The biggest killer in that ITT was that Vingegaard was more comfortable on the ITT bike so while technically most guys could do the flat bit at threshold they then wouldn't be able to do a great 10 minute climb at the end while all the other guys blew up completely on the final hill
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Absolutely! You could tell how low and comfortable he was, even on the initial corners that caused early crashes. He was well prepared with his setup and strategy. His relative smaller size to Pog might also be an advantage and he felt the TT bike would be a compatible climbing setup, too. I don't care who you are....jumping off a TT bike on to a road setup after max effort doesn't mean an immediately comfortable position. Going up a hill and having to get out of the saddle to do it also challenges any rythm you may have had. Plus Jonas was just better that day.
 
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cen said:
lol, Remco is not even on the same interdimensional plane as Roglic, lost every single race against him in 2023

He is a solid 3rd after Vinge and Pogacar but tour can be unpredictable, a lot can happen.
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A very selectif reaction. Evenepoel third, Roglic only fourth in the UCI-ranking. Roglic was destroyed by Evenepoel in the first stage of the Giro. Roglic was beaten by Evenepoel on la Molina and Barcelona in Catalunya. Roglic was beaten by Evenepoel in a few stages in the Vuelta. Of course, Roglic also has beaten Evenepoel. But Roglic was beaten several times by other opponents.
Roglic did win a few smaller stageraces and one small one-dayrace. No grand tours, no classics compared to San Sebastian, no monuments, no worldtitles....
 
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shadowrider said:
A very selectif reaction. Evenepoel third, Roglic only fourth in the UCI-ranking. Roglic was destroyed by Evenepoel in the first stage of the Giro. Roglic was beaten by Evenepoel on la Molina and Barcelona in Catalunya. Roglic was beaten by Evenepoel in a few stages in the Vuelta. Of course, Roglic also has beaten Evenepoel. But Roglic was beaten several times by other opponents.
Roglic did win a few smaller stageraces and one small one-dayrace. No grand tours, no classics compared to San Sebastian, no monuments, no worldtitles....
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Roglic won the Giro mate.

'no classics compared to San Sebastian' is one of the funniest things I ever read aswell
 
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shadowrider said:
Roglic winning a stage in the Vuelta because Evenepoel didn't sprint (he thought there was another leading group ahead of it). Lol.
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What's lol about that? I haven't used that as an argument as to why Roglic is superior to Remco?

You list all Remco's wins over Roglic, including the one where Roglic obviously didn't contest him, and ignore all the times Roglic beat Remco. That seems quite ridiculous frankly.
 
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CyclistAbi said:
The problematic part here is you aren't even trolling. You really are waiting.
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I'm just waiting for an answer which classic, monument or worlds Roglic won in 2023 ? A simple question. Responding scornfully to that is really trolling.

By not responding substantively but by making fun of everything, you and a few others are making themselves seriously ridiculous
 
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shadowrider

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tobydawq said:
What's lol about that? I haven't used that as an argument as to why Roglic is superior to Remco?

You list all Remco's wins over Roglic, including the one where Roglic obviously didn't contest him, and ignore all the times Roglic beat Remco. That seems quite ridiculous frankly.
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You did list first the Roglic wins. I didn't for Evenepoel. You gave the impression that Roglic beat Evenepoel every time. So I responded and nuanced the story. Finally, I referred to the UCI ranking and the top classic, the monument and the world title (TT) that Evenepoel won and Roglic did not in 2023.
 
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shadowrider said:
You did list first the Roglic wins. I didn't for Evenepoel. You gave the impression that Roglic beat Evenepoel every time. So I responded and nuanced the story. Finally, I referred to the UCI ranking and the top classic, the monument and the world title (TT) that Evenepoel won and Roglic did not in 2023.
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What?

I listed the Roglic win to a response to someone who said he had had a lost season after his shoulder surgery? There was no Remco angle attached to those two posts at all, I was just arguing - in the Roglic thread - that Roglic had not had a lost season.

Maybe you confuse my post with a different poster?
 
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CyclistAbi

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@shadowrider

If this would be Remco thread and somebody would make claims on how Remco didn't win anything, then your question would be perfectly valid. As this is Rogla thread your question doesn't make much sense. As it somehow totally ignores the outcome of the season 2023. When Rogla and Remco racing on the same races. It's like saying never mind that. But do tell me on why Rogla didn't win the races he didn't race in, against Remco.

Unless that is what you are asking. That is if we totally ignore Remco facing Rogla in the 2023 season. And only focus on Remco. Is he great or what?

Yeah, in my opinion Remco has the touch. I will give you that.
 
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CyclistAbi said:
@shadowrider

If this would be Remco thread and somebody would make claims on how Remco didn't win anything, then your question would be perfectly valid. As this is Rogla thread your question doesn't make much sense. As it somehow totally ignores the outcome of the season 2023. When Rogla and Remco racing on the same races. It's like saying never mind that. But do tell me on why Rogla didn't win the races he didn't race in, against Remco.

Unless that is what you are asking. That is if we totally ignore Remco facing Rogla in the 2023 season. And only focus on Remco. Is he great or what?

Yeah, in my opinion Remco has the touch. I will give you that.
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I think you are forgetting the initial post he responded to. Someone saying Remco was completely obliterated by Roglic and that Roglic is at another interdimensional level than Remco.

So he merely told why that wasn’t the case.
 
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CyclistAbi

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Berniece said:
I think you are forgetting the initial post he responded to. Someone saying Remco was completely obliterated by Roglic and that Roglic is at another interdimensional level than Remco.

So he merely told why that wasn’t the case.
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Imagine if Remco would come on top, on all occasions he would race against Rogla, in the 2023 season. Now compare that to what actually happed and on how this is discussed.

Interdimensional matter for sure.
 
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