Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[Berniece]

I think the team won't go to the Tour with a 100% focus on Roglic.
They need some good racing. They were not there in the classics and now in the Giro.
I think they will take a sprinter and 2-3 stage hunters + some riders dedicated only to Roglic.

Who else do they have?

 

[Faserr]

Meeus, Lazkano, van Gils, Lipowitz, Vlasov, van Poppel

 

[Valv.Piti]

He hasnt looked like a GC winner or anything close to it outside of the time trials. In most Giros, he would have been out of the picture by now, but has been been bailed out a couple of times due to other teams tactics.

Interesting to see how he will be approaching the rest of the race.

 

[Cycling111]

Roglic's problem has a number: 36. The age he'll turn this year.
It's the most normal thing in the world, unfortunately.
Adam Yates for examplo, at 32, seems to have lost some of his level this year.

I'd be realistic; thinking about challenging Pogacar and Vingegaard for the Tour isn't very realistic. I have doubts about whether Del Toro and Carapaz would challenge Remco for the podium.
Perhaps Carapaz has returned to his best form, but last year he was far from the top three on the TDF podium.
In any case, Carapaz would at most aspire to be third.

 

[Salvarani]

Washed

 

[ppanther92]

Who else do they have?

White jersey attempt with Lippowitz, Meeus (and van Poppel) for sprints, Ardia, van Gils, Lazkano to stage hunt, Vlasov for top 10 - I also see better use cases than to rely fully on a seemingly beyond prime Roglic.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

White jersey attempt with Lippowitz, Meeus (and van Poppel) for sprints, Ardia, van Gils, Lazkano to stage hunt, Vlasov for top 10 - I also see better use cases than to rely fully on a seemingly beyond prime Roglic.

White jersey will be hard to win but maybe Remco has a crash.

 

[Peyroteo94]

White jersey attempt with Lippowitz, Meeus (and van Poppel) for sprints, Ardia, van Gils, Lazkano to stage hunt, Vlasov for top 10 - I also see better use cases than to rely fully on a seemingly beyond prime Roglic.

White jersey? Against Remco? Only if he crashes.

 

[Rou]

Time to leave this race and focus on the Vuelta. Yes, the Vuelta and not the Tour. He is banged up so there is no point in chasing windmills at the TDF. Better to recover and reach peak shape for September. He will have only Jonas there.

 

[ppanther92]

White jersey will be hard to win but maybe Remco has a crash.

Lets see how Remco arrives to the Tour tbh.

 

[zlev11]

he hit the usual 200km wall

 

[Red Rick]

he hit the usual 200km wall

Gets dropped after 190km after under 4h30 and like 3500m of altitude gain.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I'm no Kate or any other type of bush, but I can rewrite lyrics just the same:

Pray God you can cope
I stand outside this Primoz's work, this Primoz's world
Ooh, it's hard on the fan, now haters are taking over
But the race will start soon for our Roglič

I know you have a little life in you yet
I know you have a lot of strength left
I know we're not even in week three yet
I know you're not into luck merchantry or theft

I should be crying, but I just can't let it show
I should be hoping, but why isn't he sprinting?
All the things I should've said that I never said (if I had spoken, I would have been in big trouble)
All the things he should've won that he never did
All the trophies he should have had, but he doesn't
Oh, Tarling, make him stomp again
And bring him to Rome free of pain

I choose to believe in miracles if he starts on Tuesday. The race isn't over after two weeks.

 

[Peyroteo94]

he hit the usual 200km wall

We have another 203 km stage in 2 days

 

[noob]

Hurting from crashes? He was literally like a beetle on his back yesterday in that crash, (if Brunyel pointed at the right rider which I assume he did. )

 

[Gigs_98]

Of course I don't expect this to happen but it's remarkable how much this resembles 2016 Nibali and 2018 Froome. It looks super bleak for him but all he needs is to be back at his best next week and Del Toro cracking. Unlikely but after having seen this movie twice I'll not rule out this happening a third time.

 

[zlev11]

We have another 203 km stage in 2 days

big facts no doubt

 

[zlev11]

Gets dropped after 190km after under 4h30 and like 3500m of altitude gain.

yeah he's definitely injured and/or out of form as well

 

[Red Rick]

Of course I don't expect this to happen but it's remarkable how much this resembles 2016 Nibali and 2018 Froome. It looks super bleak for him but all he needs is to be back at his best next week and Del Toro cracking. Unlikely but after having seen this movie twice I'll not rule out this happening a third time.

If you want any shot you have to basically be able to start attacking on Tuesday, and if you're dropped by 20 guys now I don't see how you're competing with the best in the next 2 days on a much more difficult stage.

 

[Rackham]

Of course I don't expect this to happen but it's remarkable how much this resembles 2016 Nibali and 2018 Froome. It looks super bleak for him but all he needs is to be back at his best next week and Del Toro cracking. Unlikely but after having seen this movie twice I'll not rule out this happening a third time.

The most realistic take in that regard would be to find past examples like when he was dropped hard in the Olympics road race 2021 in Japan and then demolished the ITT a few days later.

But it's apples and oranges.

 

[Red Rick]

The most realistic take in that regard would be to find past examples like when he was dropped hard in the Olympics road race 2021 in Japan and then demolished the ITT a few days later.

But it's apples and oranges.

In 2021 he also lost only like 44s to Pogacar in the first ITT before going home 3 days later because he was too injured. The injury probably affects him more over long road stages than in an ITT.

 

[Netserk]

Time to focus on the Tour maybe?

de Suisse?

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Roglic's problem has a number: 36. The age he'll turn this year.
It's the most normal thing in the world, unfortunately.
Adam Yates for examplo, at 32, seems to have lost some of his level this year.

I'd be realistic; thinking about challenging Pogacar and Vingegaard for the Tour isn't very realistic. I have doubts about whether Del Toro and Carapaz would challenge Remco for the podium.
Perhaps Carapaz has returned to his best form, but last year he was far from the top three on the TDF podium.
In any case, Carapaz would at most aspire to be third.

Vaughters also today said Carapaz had a very bad infection at last years Tour

 

[Peyroteo94]

Nibali and Froome are/were reliable in long and brutal mountain stages. Roglic never had his best performances in stages like we will have in 2 days for example.

 

[Froome]

He only needs like 10-15 riders to bonk.

The crashes are still affecting him more than i thought.