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@Ilmaestro99

Rogla wanted to do Giro-Tour combo when still riding for Visma and was denied. Rest assured it was his intimate choice to do so in 2025 season, highly likely this not being the last attempt.

@Krzysztof_O

Exactly, that is journalist tend to be selective. So today, when Rogla was asked if he really doesn't care he explained he doesn't care on how Pogi, Jonas and Remco race, he is here to do his best and cares only about that. So do you imagine Adam will now apologise, knowing he misinterpreted Rogla? In the end all you have to do is ask, Rogla will give you a honest answer.

@Rackham

Rest assured he is great.

@Berniece

Ask Thomas, he will tell you a thing or two about that.

@Carols

I agree that team selection is rather strange, still you wouldn't believe what ideas some people in the team thread had, compared to that Rogla still is riding in a super team and lets build on that. Next year we can take Rogla, Lipo, Giulio and Remco. Then Slovenia, Germany, Italy and Belgium won't allow for any surprises and it will be a tad easier, for Rogla to defend the title.

As for Tour 2025 i am extremely pleased that Rogla undertook it like riding Vuelta. Likely this is the most Rogla edition of the Tour so far. In other occurrences much less roglification of the Tour was involved.

Guys, lets enjoy it, this is an edition dedicated to the fans.
Wtf is this a mental breakdown :tearsofjoy:?
 
It is quite obvious that Rog does not want to send any unnecessary bullets in these stages. Maybe I am wrong but I do not think he wanted to push all out just to stay closer to the front. Of course he was hoping that there are no gaps but even with these 5s nothing much changes except that some of the top guys sent some more energy today and Rog did not. I am still hopeful for Hautacam.
 
It is quite obvious that Rog does not want to send any unnecessary bullets in these stages. Maybe I am wrong but I do not think he wanted to push all out just to stay closer to the front. Of course he was hoping that there are no gaps but even with these 5s nothing much changes except that some of the top guys sent some more energy today and Rog did not. I am still hopeful for Hautacam.

Im still hopeful hell make to paris.
 
New conspiracy theory.

Is Roglic boycotting the Tour over Remco's arrival?​

The Slovenian and his overly relaxed style of racing? Is Roglic boycotting the Tour because of Remco's arrival?

 
So yesterday journalists accused Rogla he doesn't care, today he is on the hook for caring too much, to the point of self sabotage. Imagine being asked such question pre and post stage, on where you were chasing a herd of horses all day. I mean what else are you going so say then WTF guys? Or in Rogla case to confirm the rumours by basically saying yeah and just playing along.
 
Rest day Twitch stream is coming.

"Chat, I literally don't care"

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“Chat, want to watch me tilt all the cycling forums today eh?”
 
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New conspiracy theory.

Is Roglic boycotting the Tour over Remco's arrival?​

The Slovenian and his overly relaxed style of racing? Is Roglic boycotting the Tour because of Remco's arrival?

To make sure he definitely doesn't ride the TDF anymore? Doesn't make any sense.

On top of that Roglic is smart enough to understand that his chances are higher to win TDF with Evenepoel in his team as long as he's co-leader.
 
To make sure he definitely doesn't ride the TDF anymore? Doesn't make any sense.

On top of that Roglic is smart enough to understand that his chances are higher to win TDF with Evenepoel in his team as long as he's co-leader.
Roglic isn't going to go to the 2026 Tour as Remco's domestique or any other rider's second option. That's why he left Jumbo. He´d rather retire than repeat that situation.

Besides, if it's difficult for him to compete in the Tour at 36, it'll be even more difficult at 37.

Many riders of a certain level, as soon as they see their level has dropped, prefer to retire.

Hinault still had the level to win some races, but he wasn't what he used to be, and he wasn't going to return to the Tour to be Lemmond's domestique or in his shadow.

The opposite example is Froome LOL. But if Roglic left Jumbo because he wasn't the main leader, he won't go to the 2026 Tour to be under Remco.
 
To make sure he definitely doesn't ride the TDF anymore? Doesn't make any sense.

On top of that Roglic is smart enough to understand that his chances are higher to win TDF with Evenepoel in his team as long as he's co-leader.
It's clearly one of those clickbait theories that makes you realize journalism is definitely dead.

I doubt Roglic thinks much about having Evenepoel in the team benefitting him. I think he realises he's not winning it. For me the question is really if he would rather have another random top 5 crack at the Tour or if he would go Giro/Vuelta if Evenepoel takes on the big pressure of the TdF.

Between the 2, I don't think they have much clashing interest at all, and I think Evenepoel should be more worried about how bad RB are performing across the board.
 
A lot depends on the next two weeks, i.e. if Rog just fades and ends up losing 5, 10, 20 or 30 minutes (or more) when the real difficulties start, then irrespective of the reasons (gravel crash in Giro + reported lack of decent prep) the damage will be done and he's not coming back here as team leader - unless it's for IPT or Astana. And if that does happen (aka blows up in the Tour massively), he'll then have to show something between the end of the Tour and the end of the season to demonstrate he's still 'got it', otherwise he'll be considered 1996 Indurain-ed and that will be that.

But... if he somehow starts climbing well here... then it could get a bit more interesting (like dropping Evenepoel at some point).

I'm still on the fence. I saw him smiling after the stage yesterday (when he was legit dropped again) and he seemed fine:

View: https://x.com/RBH_ProCycling/status/1943344503030485238


Right now I'm still of the opinion he's waiting for the mountains to show something, even though I accept it might not happen because his performance yesterday (not in the ITT, but yesterday when the race was hard) was... not great.
 
It's impressive how he keeps speedrunning the "GT win to completely washed" storyline, but okay.

I always figured it's age related. Teams always act like 30+ = the end is near.

And he's been 'washed' (according to online narratives) since his knee problems early 2022 because we was 32 at the time. That's just how people think (& it's why people didn't totally see Andy Schleck's embarrassing career collapse coming either because he was "young"). In Rog's case he keeps on coming back and winning, proving the narratives and doubters wrong.

That's why I haven't given up hope here either in this TdF, i.e. the podium is a long shot of course but since 4th last year was 19 minutes down on Pog I'm thinking there's still room for a late peak here.

But then the bigger question is whether he'll continue next year or even wants to.
 
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I always figured it's age related. Teams always act like 30+ = the end is near.

And he's been 'washed' (according to online narratives) since his knee problems early 2022 because we was 32 at the time. That's just how people think (& it's why people didn't totally see Andy Schleck's embarrassing career collapse coming either because he was "young"). In Rog's case he keeps on coming back and winning, proving the narratives and doubters wrong.

That's why I haven't given up hope here either in this TdF, i.e. the podium is a long shot of course but since 4th last year was 19 minutes down on Pog I'm thinking there's still room for a late peak here.

But then the bigger question is whether he'll continue next year or even wants to.
If he comes into any sort of Rogla like form, 3rd is pretty much there for the taking, I would even say 2nd. Now, beating Pog requires him to be at 100% throughout the whole race and that is not him this year.
 
If he comes into any sort of Rogla like form, 3rd is pretty much there for the taking, I would even say 2nd. Now, beating Pog requires him to be at 100% throughout the whole race and that is not him this year.

My delusional and stupidly ambitious pre-Tour Rogla hype has him finishing second in the TdF.

That's because Visma are burning up Vingegaard by using hard tactics against Pog when he's not at his level - de-facto hurting Vinge more.
 

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