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[Oldman]

I said he wouldn't top5 and a crash could be a scenario for that. I didn't exclude lack of legs.

Today definitely showed no gas at stage's end. He was there on his territory but couldn't break out at all. No way is this him conserving energy for bigger things. Putting out max watts to stay in contact would've been minor withdrawal from the energy bank if he had the funds. NSF today and more time lost.
I'd love to see a miracle but Lipowitz is in the same boat and he lacks the deeper experience. Hopefully RBH doesn't have him on Primoz watch at this point.

 

[Rackham]

I think as someone posted earlier, either he pulls this around and the podium becomes possible again, or he explodes entirely and this one ends with Rog over half an hour down in GC or more.

That's because the profiles from Hautacam onwards change entirely and the Tour becomes a different race. We haven't had mountains yet. Just classics stages.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

I mean, I certainly didn't expect him to be down 3 minutes after 1 week without taking any falls or having any significant mechanicals. And anyone who says he isn't off form is just downright disrespectful to Roglic. He is an absolute monster when in form, and this ain't it...

 

[Oldman]

I think as someone posted earlier, either he pulls this around and the podium becomes possible again, or he explodes entirely and this one ends with Rog over half an hour down in GC or more.

That's because the profiles from Hautacam onwards change entirely and the Tour becomes a different race. We haven't had mountains yet. Just classics stages.

Stage 10 might be the final confirmation of form; at least as far as his week 3 prospects would play out.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Decision to avoid a week of classics completely, that will likely turn to be beneficial on more hilly terrain. Even now, when counting in the most likely remaining contenders for GC, after peloton hits a resemblance of a hill, RBH has two riders positioned in top 5. That is regardless on how media decided to cancel Rogla pre Tour and on how then spin his words during the race.

Lets not forget guys, a year or two back, some predictions on how stomp has to go in GTs were made. I am hence rather proud of Rogla resisting the temptation so far.

 

[CyclistAbi]

When Rogla said i don't care on how Pogi, Jonas and Remco approach and ride this Tour edition as he only cares on how he will do it and that is to his best. That basically enraged the media because Rogla didn't play along their game, doesn't support their narrative on how Rogla is supposedly not relevant any more. It made them furious when Rogla called out their BS, as who does he think he is. Why didn't he just reassure them Pogi, Jonas and Remco have nothing to worry about, what is his aim, just doesn't compute for them.

 

[Gratemans]

When Rogla said i don't care on how Pogi, Jonas and Remco approach and ride this Tour edition as he only cares on how he will do it and that is to his best. That basically enraged the media because Rogla didn't play along their game, doesn't support their narrative on how Rogla is supposedly not relevant any more. It made them furious when Rogla called out their BS, as who does he think he is. Why didn't he just reassure them Pogi, Jonas and Remco have nothing to worry about, what is his aim, just doesn't compute for them.

Chill dude, I don't think the media are particularly out to get him. In fact, I think they don't even really care about him much at this point. Certainly not as much as you do
But I'm pretty convinced -barring any accidents- he'll keep crawling up the GC and they'll start to care again.
I predict a respectable fourth place* for him, as we haven't hit the real mountains yet.

*fourth because I believe Gall will take third while Evenepoel will end up somewhere just behind Rog

 

[FroomeWagon]

Odds to make top 3 in Paris after stage 7:

Pogachar 1 to 20
Vingegaard 1 to 14
Remco 1 to 2
Jorgenson 5 to 2
Lipowitz 9 to 2
Gall 11 to 2
Roglic 10 to 1
Mas 11 to 1
Vauquelin 14 to 1

 

[CyclistAbi]

Chill dude, I don't think the media are particularly out to get him. In fact, I think they don't even really care about him much at this point. Certainly not as much as you do

I mean out to get him, IMHO nobody writing that BS has a remote chance of caching him on the bike.

But I'm pretty convinced -barring any accidents- he'll keep crawling up the GC and they'll start to care again.
I predict a respectable fourth place* for him, as we haven't hit the real mountains yet.

*fourth because I believe Gall will take third while Evenepoel will end up somewhere just behind Rog

Isn't he basically fourth already, current standings? As for climbing up, that is the idea, hard to do that on flat terrain. We'll see.

 

[Red Rick]

47	Roglič Primož	Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe				,,
48	Van Wilder Ilan	Soudal Quick-Step				,,
49	Campenaerts Victor	Team Visma | Lease a Bike				,,
50	Gall Felix	Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team				,,
51	Velasco Simone	XDS Astana Team				,,
52	Gachignard Thomas	Team TotalEnergies				0:15

If you hear a strange sound it's probably the sound of Primoz Roglic caring.

 

[zlev11]

47	Roglič Primož	Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe				,,
48	Van Wilder Ilan	Soudal Quick-Step				,,
49	Campenaerts Victor	Team Visma | Lease a Bike				,,
50	Gall Felix	Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team				,,
51	Velasco Simone	XDS Astana Team				,,
52	Gachignard Thomas	Team TotalEnergies				0:15

If you hear a strange sound it's probably the sound of Primoz Roglic caring.

he looked happy as he crossed the line too, gave Pithie a big pat on the back

 

[CyclistAbi]

Rogla not riding like a bully, but bullish.

 

[Oldman]

So Denk now blames Vlasov being behind Lipowitz and Roglic for time loss on Stage 7. Both of those guys knew he wasn't in front of them and neither made the last push to close the gap.
That means either A)They weren't paying attention to lack of team in front of them
B) They didn't have the legs to stay in contact
C) Both A & B

As I've said before: the answer is always C

 

[staubsauger]

I'll eat my heat if Denk doesn't get fired like Lavenu after the Tour de France!

 

[Gargamel35]

I think Roglič is saying goodby to TdF. This is probably his last. He's riding it on his own terms, enjoying it, posts about great crowds, etc. He wants to finish it and make peace with it.

 

[CyclistAbi]

I'll eat my heat if Denk doesn't get fired like Lavenu after the Tour de France!

I mean if you would read the suggestions in the team thread, based on that suggestions Denk was under fire for sending such strong GC team. Sending a sprinter was a must and on top of that kids on the loose ought to go.

So Denk now blames Vlasov being behind Lipowitz and Roglic for time loss on Stage 7. Both of those guys knew he wasn't in front of them and neither made the last push to close the gap.
That means either A)They weren't paying attention to lack of team in front of them
B) They didn't have the legs to stay in contact
C) Both A & B

As I've said before: the answer is always C

It would be great if it would happen but having two leaders and a single climber in support, it's bound to happen, for leader(s) not to get adequate support.

I think Roglič is saying goodby to TdF. This is probably his last. He's riding it on his own terms, enjoying it, posts about great crowds, etc. He wants to finish it and make peace with it.

By winning.

 

[AmRacer]

I mean if you would read the suggestions in the team thread, based on that suggestions Denk was under fire for sending such strong GC team. Sending a sprinter was a must and on top of that kids on the loose ought to go.



It would be great if it would happen but having two leaders and a single climber in support, it's bound to happen, for leader(s) not to get adequate support.



By winning.

No, he just want to make it to Paris.

 

[Rob5091]

Roglic out and Remco in after this year at RedBull/Bora? It would seem though that the team will still have the same GC aspiration problems - not quite good enough. Sure, they'll win a lot of TT's but it might be better to invest their money in more then one rider.
Hope Roglic makes it to Paris as he's not often done it.

 

[fenns]

No, he just want to make it to Paris.

if that's his goal he might as well lose some minutes in the GC and maybe win a stage when he's no longer seen as a threat

 

[CyclistAbi]

No, he just want to make it to Paris.

This is not mutually exclusive hence arguing about it would be silly. You make it sound like that is a bad thing, or something, doesn't make much sense.

if that's his goal he might as well lose some minutes in the GC and maybe win a stage when he's no longer seen as a threat

Maybe they will let him in the breakaway on stage 10? Rogla clearly isn't even in top 5, just look at the standings. Others have nothing to worry about. We'll see.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Roglic out and Remco in after this year at RedBull/Bora? It would seem though that the team will still have the same GC aspiration problems - not quite good enough. Sure, they'll win a lot of TT's but it might be better to invest their money in more then one rider.
Hope Roglic makes it to Paris as he's not often done it.

Yeah, lets wait for that to actually happen, it's the Tour season and all sorts of theories emerge during it.

 

[Red Rick]

Roglic is a model professional, so he's going to do the best he can, even if he knows that's not as good as he or the team would have wanted. He's making the most out of an unpreferable situation, and you might as well try to enjoy it, as the result isn't gonna change his career anyway. I really don't understand how there could be anything mysterious about this.

Evenepoel joining doesn't change that much for Roglic I think. What really matters is if the 1 year extension clause was already triggered or not, and I can't remember if that's the case.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@Red Rick

I agree about the fact we are seeing the laid back approach, like riding a Vuelta, as when Tour was approached with over the top attitude, we have seen what happened, on numerous attempts and on what was the reward for that. As for Rogla already giving up, that is not possible.

As for Remco riding for RBH in the 2026 season, lets see it happen first, former national coach denied the rumours, his move is Remco related and Patrick is kept out of it too, giving interviews on how labour court is one of the three options. So i am sceptical to be honest in regards to 2026 season. But ultimately i don't see on how it would affect Roglič in any meaningful way if decided to stay at RBH whilst Remco joining. Remco would likely do classics in 2026 season and at GTs, more importantly the Tour, they would likely swap the sprinter for Remco and that is that. If both would go. Maybe an additional climber, or two.

We'll see.

 

[AmRacer]

This is not mutually exclusive hence arguing about it would be silly. You make it sound like that is a bad thing, or something, doesn't make much sense.



Maybe they will let him in the breakaway on stage 10? Rogla clearly isn't even in top 5, just look at the standings. Others have nothing to worry about. We'll see.

It's you interpret it as a bad thing Rogla makes it to Paris.

 

[Froome]

He will finish the Tour this time, and do top 5.